Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #811795
    terraricca
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    hi Nick

    Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

    Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began

    Jn 1:10 He(Jesus) was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

    Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him(Jesus)and for him.(Jesus)
    Col 1:17 He(Jesus) is before all things, and in him(Jesus) all things hold together.

    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
    Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    and became obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!
    Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

    until you believe those scriptures to true as they where written and not interpret them with your corrupted mind then I can say that you will be saved ;not any other way ;

    for scriptures says so ;JN 12:44 And Jesus cried out and said, “ He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me.
    JN 16:9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
    JN 17:20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their message;(NT)

    believing does not mean changing the message but believe in it has it was written and to what it says as it says it

    many have been deceived you are one of them

    #811961
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,

    Can you hear the voice of the Spirit in the mouth of God’s servant Jesus Christ?

    If not you will be very prone to deception.

     

    #811964
    terraricca
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    Nick

    Hi T,

    Can you hear the voice of the Spirit in the mouth of God’s servant Jesus Christ?

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    yes I can for I walk in the truth ,and all what Jesus spoke of was the truth of his father ,but you don’t believe that truth so you change it and interpret it to your convenience ,so you do not walk in the truth and reject it just like the pharisees did

    #811968
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    So if you hear the voice then repost your scriptures according to that voice.

    You say one thing but do another is seems.

    Tradition holds on fast.

    #811972
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Hi T,

    So if you hear the voice then repost your scriptures according to that voice.

    You say one thing but do another is seems.

    Tradition holds on fast.

    why you don’t show with scriptures what I said is wrong ;but can you ? for it is not the devil that holds the truth right ?

    #811999
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    You tell us you hear the Spirit but do you really?

    Before Abraham I am.

    #812012
    terraricca
    Participant

    N
    Hi T,

    You tell us you hear the Spirit but do you really?

    Before Abraham I am.
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    what red herring is this ?

    #812017
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    So you heard the Spirit say this through Jesus Christ?

    #812020
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    the spirit of truth is only given to those that live by the truth ;

    Jn 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God.”

    if you keep telling lies you surely don’t do the works/deeds through God’s spirit of truth

    #812023
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    Another new gospel?

    gal 1

    #812026
    terraricca
    Participant

    Hi Nick

    was Jesus born at the Jordain ?

    #812028
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi t,

    No he was born at Bethlehem.

    He was reborn of water and the Spirit at the Jordan.

     

    The Word was made flesh there.

    #812032
    terraricca
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    But Nick ,there was no one that could see or hear anything except John the baptist ,and Jesus could never be reborn as you say ,you seem not understand Jesus anointing ,

    so let back track a bit ;in Israel when a king was made king THE PROPHET OF GOD ANOINTED HIM as the true anointed of God as king

    see this is what happen at the Jordan river ,but as for David the King was not known to Nathan the prophet ,so God told him some signs to guide him to the chosen one of God ,this is exactly what happened with Jesus,read and see

    so you just invented that reborn staff of yours or from others lost souls

    #812034
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    So why do you think the testimony of the greatest prophet is invalid?

    #812054
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    So why do you think the testimony of the greatest prophet is invalid?
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    and who was that great prophet?and what was he said ? scriptures please

    #812083
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Try

    Lk 7.38

    Mt 11.11

    #812091
    terraricca
    Participant

    Nick

    Hi T,

    Try

    Lk 7.38

    Mt 11.11
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    I have no clue of what those scriptures should tell me in your mind set

    #812097
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,

    Jesus said John was MORE THAN A PROPHET.

    His job description was written in the book.

     

    #812098
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi N

    yes it did even in the OT

    #812102
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    So the chosen law abiding Jew who had sought and found the grace of God to overcome sin in the flesh

    was baptised in water and the Spirit at the Jordan.

    We follow him.

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