Was Jesus Christ born in Bethlehem or born at the Jordan?

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  • #811168
    NickHassan
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    Hi Ed,

    Merely a tool to help you define?

    It is not about you and you opinions Ed,

     

    Jesus Christ said of John that he was more than a prophet.

    And John said of Jesus that he was not fit to untie the thong of his sandals.

     

    The greatness of Jesus Christ was that he was given the fullness of the Spirit as John testifies.

     

    Give the glory to God for His marvellous works among men and do not follow ignorant man in making Jesus a divine being.

     

    #811176
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Merely a tool to help you define?

    It is not about you and you opinions Ed,

    Yes Nick,

    Asking y/n questions is a tool to help define others opinions to be used in discussions with me.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811177
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Nick,

    If Jesus said this about John…
    “Among those that are born of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist” (Luke 7:28)

    And John said this about Jesus…
    “he that cometh after me is mightier than I”
    .
    Would it not stand to reason that Jesus is greater that all the inhabitants of the world (a ref to Psalms 49:1-8)? y/n
    (remember “I don’t know” is also an acceptable answer)

    Hi Ed,

    Jesus Christ said of John that he was more than a prophet.

    And John said of Jesus that he was not fit to untie the thong of his sandals.

    The greatness of Jesus Christ was that he was given the fullness of the Spirit as John testifies.

    Hi Nick,

    Great, but i did not ask:
    Was the greatness of Jesus Christ that he was given the fullness of the Spirit as John testifies?

    I instead ASKED:
    Would it not stand to reason that Jesus is greater that all the inhabitants of the world (a ref to Psalms 49:1-8)? y/n
    (remember “I don’t know” is also an acceptable answer)

    Now please answer the question I asked instead of inventing your own question to answer, OK?

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811178
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    I do not respond to questions about the opinions of others.

     

    #811182
    Ed J
    Participant

    Now please answer the question I asked instead of inventing your own question to answer, OK?

    Hi Ed,

    I do not respond to questions about the opinions of others.

    Hi Nick,

    You would be forced to if I put you on the “Hot-Seat”. But
    I believe I can persuade you to give your opinion instead. (:

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811183
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    While you love to try to intimidate I would ask the forum if it is right to insist on answers to questions based on your personal opinions.

    If so I am happy to leave you in your darkness.

    #811184
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    (1)While you love to try to intimidate I would ask the forum if it is right to insist on answers to questions based on your personal opinions.

    (2)If so I am happy to leave you in your darkness.

    Hi Nick,

    1) When YOU communicate with others it requires YOU to give YOUR personal opinions.
    2)

    #811204
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    If it was all about you we should be compelled to discuss your personal opinions.

    But you are not that important are you?

    #811234
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    (1) If it was all about you we should be compelled to discuss your personal opinions.

    (2) But you are not that important are you?

    Hi Nick,

    1) Outside of me, what is important is a right relationship with YHVH.

    2) As witness between us that YHVH is God,
    my view presents others a better understanding of God.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811244
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    Really?

    Salvation is knowing God.

    But you think understanding Him is the goal?

    #811650
    kerwin
    Participant

    AndrewAD,

    It is a warning, not a threat, and all Christians are to watch themselves that they not sin.

    #811653
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    “my view presents others with a better view of God”

    So you say but bringing others into His family is the appointed task.

    #811713
    Ed J
    Participant

    (Post #811234)

    Hi Ed,

    (1) If it was all about you we should be compelled to discuss your personal opinions.

    (2) But you are not that important are you?

    Hi Nick,

    1) Outside of me, what is important is a right relationship with YHVH.

    2) As witness between us that YHVH is God,
    my view presents others a better understanding of God.

    _______________
    God bless
    Ed J

    Hi Ed,

    [color=red]my view presents others with a better view of God[/color]

    So you say but bringing others into His family is the appointed task.

    Hi Nick,

    Please quote me correctly – you don’t have to be me to get a better understanding of God

    It is those same ‘brain filters’ that are keeping you from getting a better understanding of God.

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811715
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    If you want to understand God you are interested in chasing the wind.

    Knowing Him and being known by Him are far more valuable.

    #811716
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    If you want to understand God you are interested in chasing the wind.

    Knowing Him and being known by Him are far more valuable.

    Hi Nick,

    “In the light of the king’s countenance is life; and his favor is as a cloud of the latter rain.
    How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!” (Prov 16:15-16)

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    God bless
    Ed J

    #811717
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Ed,

    “seek ye first the kingdom and all these things will be added to you.”

     

     

    #811718
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi ED,

    Yes my quote was a little inaccurate sorry.

    Understanding is a blessing but faith is a gift.

     

     

    #811785
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi

    let see if Jesus existed before coming to the earth ,for scriptures says he is the first creation of God his father ,

    why would someone come up with a rebor idea ? beats me ; WOULD THIS ALSO MEAN IF i BEING BORN IN iTALY AND TRAVELING TO THE USA. WOULD THIS MAKE ME TO BE REBORN ?OF CAUSE NOT ;

    well then why would Christ have to be reborn if he come from heaven and was sent to us to do a job ,and took the cover of the residents of the area ,(local appearance )

    then when finished went back to where he came from ;THIS IS WHAT THE SCRIPTURES AND jESUS IS SAYING BUT YOU DON’T WANT TO HEAR IT WHY ?BECAUSE IT IS THE TRUTH ?

    #811787
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Terra,

    Do you hear the voice of the Spirit in the words of Jesus?

    Many do not and think he is speaking of himself.

    #811795
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi Nick

    Jn 3:13 No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven—the Son of Man.

    Jn 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began

    Jn 1:10 He(Jesus) was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him.

    Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
    Col 1:16 For through him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created through him(Jesus)and for him.(Jesus)
    Col 1:17 He(Jesus) is before all things, and in him(Jesus) all things hold together.

    Phil 2:6 Who, being in very nature/form of God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be grasped,
    Phil 2:7 but made himself nothing,
    taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
    Phil 2:8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    and became obedient to death—
    even death on a cross!
    Phil 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
    Phil 2:10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,

    until you believe those scriptures to true as they where written and not interpret them with your corrupted mind then I can say that you will be saved ;not any other way ;

    for scriptures says so ;JN 12:44 And Jesus cried out and said, “ He who believes in Me, does not believe in Me but in Him who sent Me.
    JN 16:9 concerning sin, because they do not believe in Me;
    JN 17:20 “I do not ask on behalf of these alone, but for those also who believe in Me through their message;(NT)

    believing does not mean changing the message but believe in it has it was written and to what it says as it says it

    many have been deceived you are one of them

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