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Hi t8,
God’s strength shows up best in weak vessels.
But you want to make an infant a Lord and anointed from birth.
Despite the lack of evidence of any such thing happening to him before birth or any manifestations before age 30.
This is a joke Nick. Clearly scripture testifies including the words of a holy angel who is higher than you being a mere man.
Luke 2:11
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.You flatly contradict this verse and others. You are open in your opposition to the scriptures. This is why we know you are wrong.
Anyone with any sense of the scripture can see that you are in error.
t8,
None of disagrees that Jesus was born a normal man.
Any Jew is born holy. (Deuteronomy 7:6 and Exodus 22:31)
They are normal humans.
You too are part of the “Ordinary Jesus Brigade”.
I pity you. Cursed are those who trust in flesh.
I trust Jesus for my salvation, but to you, Nick, and Gene, you would be trusting in flesh which is cursed.
Hi T8,
You assume his anointing was before his birth because the Christ was born?
Do you still deny his anointing at the Jordan?
@t8,
That is dodging a point.
The point being you stated Jesus was not ordinary because he was born holy and I pointed out that the Jews in general are born holy for the reason that he calls them a holy people.
That is pointing out that at least one premises is false unless you want to conclude Jew are not normal humans. Jews are not normal, in that they are the chosen of God. Jesus is also the chosen of God; for not only was he made a Jew but also he was made the Christ.
Hi T8,
None of us trust in flesh but in the power of God to do things through weak men.
Do you not believe in the power of the Spirit of God?
Do you believe the Spirit of God is a person? y/n
Since I believe the Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ the answer is also no.
Hi Kerwin,
Thank you!
Next question:Do you believe that the “HolySpirit” (as mentioned in Scripture) is Spirit of God? y/n
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God bless
Ed JHi T8,
You assume his anointing was before his birth because the Christ was born?
Do you still deny his anointing at the Jordan?
Nick, you still bear false witness. I do not deny the Jordan.
But neither do I deny that he was born the messiah as it is written. But you actually do.
You are basically saying that I need to deny the scripture and message of the angel to then not deny his anointing at Jordan.
Clearly you have to be wrong and you are acting like a crazy man.
If you need understanding of the truth, then that will not come by shooting the messengers who give you scripture. I counsel you to buy gold refined in the fire.
Hi T8,
None of us trust in flesh but in the power of God to do things through weak men.
Do you not believe in the power of the Spirit of God?
If this were true, then you would trust the message of the angel of God. Instead you have relied on your own understanding of the event.
Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord.
If you teach a Jesus that was not born the savior, messiah, or Lord, then clearly your Jesus is different to the real one.
You can’t change reality Nick, no matter how proud or arrogant a man can be, no one can change reality. They can only change their interpretation of it and many are those who are deceived because truth was not found in their heart. So they strayed wayward. But we can repent and turn back to the one who was born the messiah. His ways are true and the path is narrow.
The point being you stated Jesus was not ordinary because he was born holy and I pointed out that the Jews in general are born holy for the reason that he calls them a holy people.
That is pointing out that at least one premises is false unless you want to conclude Jew are not normal humans. Jews are not normal, in that they are the chosen of God. Jesus is also the chosen of God; for not only was he made a Jew but also he was made the Christ.
Kerwin, your heart is wayward in this matter because the Jews were not born holy because God was their Father. They all had human fathers.
All right then, the Lord himself will give you the sign. Look! The virgin will conceive a child! She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel (which means ‘God is with us’).
But when he had considered this, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary as your wife; for the Child who has been conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit
The angel answered, “The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the holy one to be born will be called the Son of God.
While the Jews were a called out people that God used for his purposes, none of them were conceived in this manner. Jesus is not like an ordinary Jew. He was conceived without a human father. The child was of the Holy Spirit before he was even born.
Jesus is and was like no other. Stop trying to turn him into a plain man like you and me or as a typical Jew. Whose side are you on? I would imagine Satan would like nothing better than for people to believe that Jesus was just another among many.
I will give you a clue Kerwin. Whole books in the Bible are about him. Return to your first love, if indeed you ever loved him.
Hi T8,
You misunderstand scriptural prophecy and yet proudly proclaim that your foundation alone is stable.
Are you sure you have always been right?
Hi T8,
Putting aside the vitriol and shadow boxing it boils down to one question.
Were the powers shown by Jesus Christ his own or was it the work of the Holy Spirit in him?
phil 2
We say yes.
What say Ye?
Hi t8,
It seems we are being ridiculed for believing what Jesus Christ said about himself.
Shame on you.
T8,
The Jews, including Jesus, are born holy because they received the word of God. Jesus is also holy because he received the Spirit of God. (Matthew 12:18) Anyone who receives the Spirit become a child of God. (Galatians 4:6) In Mark 14:36 Jesus specifically states “Abba, Father” which links it to both Romans 8:15 and Galatians 4:6 that both have the phrase “Abba, Father” in. It is also true that the holiness of the Spirit is superior to the holiness of the Law.
His conception is unique only in detail. Both Adam and Eve has more unique conception as the former was conceived of the earth and the later was conceived of a man. God was the father of both by the method of creation.
Identical twins are the result of asexual reproduction with one of the twins being the parent and the other being the child. They are both to the same woman and man who are their ancestors. We call them parents though technically they are grandparents. Jesus had grandparents on his mother’s side.
Scripture does not teach us the technical details of his conception but I believe God used parthenogenesis, which is known to occur in certain plants and animals. I may be completely off base and he just stored David’s male gametes to impregnate Mary centuries later. The important points are that 1)it is a miracle and 2) he is a descendant of David.
Jesus is special in that he was the first to be given the Spirit in such a way that he could walk according to its ways by faith. That does not prevent him from being an ordinary human being.
Hi KW,
It is not those who have received the Spirit that are sons of God.
It is those that are led by the Spirit.
Rom 8.4, 14
jn 1.12
Hi KW,
We do not want to be among those given a talent who bury it and produce no profit for the Master.
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