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Coulter,
The Deluge Legend in global in scope and includes lands in South America. The flavors from place to place are different. It was only a brief flood where the waters abated after 150 days. There may have been places that were actually still above water as it exceeded the tallest mountain of the area by a mere 15 cubits.
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,03:57) Noah's flood story was the adaptation of a localized legend involving a much smaller flood in Mesopotamia. The purpose of the flood story was to trace the bloodlines of the Israelite's back to Adam (who was believed to be the first man by people living in that age). That's why they had to bring the Nephilim forward, their own editing caused problems for beliefs and narratives already in existence. Notice that they had Noah sin again, drunk, naked in his tent, bringing original sin forward after the dubious flood.
Because Adam was much, much older, the priestly redactors decided to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness”. Problem solved, at least in that age, but now we know better.
With every edit the priest left clues of the previous written records or oral traditions like the numbering of Israel or the two differing accounts of making David king.
With the Urantia revelation we now know who the “sons of God” were that mated with the daughters of men. They predate Adam by 500,000 years and went into rebellion with the “prince of this world” or “crafty beast” roughly 200,000 years ago. Adam arrived about 39,000 years ago in the garden location prepared for them by Van and his followers.
Colter
Colter. I see you do not believe what the Bible says.
Do you believe in God?
Do you believe that Jesus is the messiah?Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2013,02:47) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,03:57) Noah's flood story was the adaptation of a localized legend involving a much smaller flood in Mesopotamia. The purpose of the flood story was to trace the bloodlines of the Israelite's back to Adam (who was believed to be the first man by people living in that age). That's why they had to bring the Nephilim forward, their own editing caused problems for beliefs and narratives already in existence. Notice that they had Noah sin again, drunk, naked in his tent, bringing original sin forward after the dubious flood.
Because Adam was much, much older, the priestly redactors decided to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness”. Problem solved, at least in that age, but now we know better.
With every edit the priest left clues of the previous written records or oral traditions like the numbering of Israel or the two differing accounts of making David king.
With the Urantia revelation we now know who the “sons of God” were that mated with the daughters of men. They predate Adam by 500,000 years and went into rebellion with the “prince of this world” or “crafty beast” roughly 200,000 years ago. Adam arrived about 39,000 years ago in the garden location prepared for them by Van and his followers.
Colter
Colter. I see you do not believe what the Bible says.
Do you believe in God?
Do you believe that Jesus is the messiah?
T8,Coulter follows a Gnostic Trinitarian sect that holds Scripture as flawed.
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2013,07:47) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,03:57) Noah's flood story was the adaptation of a localized legend involving a much smaller flood in Mesopotamia. The purpose of the flood story was to trace the bloodlines of the Israelite's back to Adam (who was believed to be the first man by people living in that age). That's why they had to bring the Nephilim forward, their own editing caused problems for beliefs and narratives already in existence. Notice that they had Noah sin again, drunk, naked in his tent, bringing original sin forward after the dubious flood.
Because Adam was much, much older, the priestly redactors decided to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness”. Problem solved, at least in that age, but now we know better.
With every edit the priest left clues of the previous written records or oral traditions like the numbering of Israel or the two differing accounts of making David king.
With the Urantia revelation we now know who the “sons of God” were that mated with the daughters of men. They predate Adam by 500,000 years and went into rebellion with the “prince of this world” or “crafty beast” roughly 200,000 years ago. Adam arrived about 39,000 years ago in the garden location prepared for them by Van and his followers.
Colter
Colter. I see you do not believe what the Bible says.
Do you believe in God?
Do you believe that Jesus is the messiah?
Yes t8, not only do I believe in God, I have surrendered my life to him and have been saved.I am a disciple of Jesus, I believe his per-christian gospel of the kingdom of heaven. I believe in the religion OF Jesus, not a religion ABOUT Jesus.
I believe the current book collection that comprises the bible (there used to be more) are no more perfect or the “word of God” then the priest class who had their dirty little paws on them.
The :Word of God” is living, it is present now to those who sincerely want to be lead by God. Bible worship is a cop out, a fetish, a golden calf, an Idol.
I knew the flood story was bunk when I was a kid! Shame on those who lead young children into the belief in such a hateful God……except, naturally, a God who only saved the only righteous man in all the world, a descendant of the Hebrews who concocted that nonsense.
Colter
Quote (t8 @ Mar. 14 2013,08:25) So you believe not what the Bible says except the Jesus part?
That's a good and fair question, in short, to the extent that Jesus words were accurately “remembered” yes. The Urantia revelation has his entire life story to compare with. But even the NT books were written well after Paul began to influence the retelling with his Paganized version of the meaning of the gospel.Because the church made the bible “the infallible word of God”…..and their own controlling power “infallible”, this elevated Paul's words to be equal with Jesus, they just aren't.
Believers have been manipulated for years into believing that if they did not agree with something in the Bible then their was a problem with their faith. They use fear of the Satan God as well.
Colter
Okay Colter. So you disregard the scriptures as being altered beyond truth and put your trust instead in the 1924 Urantia revelation. Further, you believe as taught in the Urantia, the Trinity when it is actually very easy to prove that the Trinity is a false doctrine devised by man when compared with scripture (which you would disregard) and from a historical point of view also.
Seems no different to all other cults to me. They seem to have their own book in common to take you away from scripture and toward their invented view. e.g.,
Moonies -> Divine Priniples
JWs -> Watchtower
Mormons -> Book of Mormon
Atheists -> The Origin Of The Species
Catholics -> The Athanasian CreedThey are all cults built around persons who are not Christ. I put your Urantia revelation in that group too. Of course the list above is not exhaustive but a snippet of what is out there. And they usually claim to be right at the expense of all others. Statistically speaking, if one of them was right, then you have chosen the wrong one.
Rather than diverge the topic, I am going to put you on the Hot Seat and start with this post. So we can go from there.
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,03:15) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 14 2013,02:30) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,00:57) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 13 2013,11:47) I always understood “after” to be referring to Numbers 13:33 – which says the offspring of the Nephilim were STILL around – even after the flood. There are SO many questions, but like t8 said, we are obviously not meant to know it all.
Even angels long to look into some of these things. (1 Peter 1:12)
Jesus, explaining his parables, said to the disciples:
Matthew 13
16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.Perhaps some day, we too will be given eyes to see, and ears to hear these things. But for right now, it seems we are relegated to the group mentioned in verse 17.
Noah's flood story was the adaptation of a localized legend involving a much smaller flood in Mesopotamia.The purpose of the flood story was to trace the bloodlines of the Israelite's back to Adam (who was believed to be the first man by people living in that age). That's why they had to bring the Nephilim forward, their own editing caused problems for beliefs and narratives already in existence. Notice that they had Noah sin again, drunk, naked in his tent, bringing original sin forward after the dubious flood.
Because Adam was much, much older, the priestly redactors decided to “drown the whole world in it's own wickedness”. Problem solved, at least in that age, but now we know better.
With every edit the priest left clues of the previous written records or oral traditions like the numbering of Israel or the two differing accounts of making David king.
With the Urantia revelation we now know who the “sons of God” were that mated with the daughters of men. They predate Adam by 500,000 years and went into rebellion with the “prince of this world” or “crafty beast” roughly 200,000 years ago. Adam arrived about 39,000 years ago in the garden location prepared for them by Van and his followers.
Colter
Hi Colter.You obviously worship God and Jesus with your lips.
Believing in God but denying the power.
That is why you go for strange flesh rather than the flesh of Christ.Jesus came in the name of God ,and you dont believe him.
But some one else came in his own name, and you embrace him.In latter times some depart from the faith;giving heed to seducing spirits.
Jesus own words:
Luke 11:51 From the blood of *ABEL* unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.Abel was the first murder in history,after Adam sinned.
Before Adam there was no living soul. God fashioned adam with his own hands; in his own image. none else but Adam,and Eve.Satan has *thousands of years* to infiltrate every single thing that is holy. He created all sorts of religions,and wrote all sorts of books,by the hand of his boys.
And you got sucked in,because of lack of spiritual knowledge.wakeup.
Wakeup,I see you still have more faith in Satan then God, and you still make the same accusation that the enemies of Jesus made.
You have a narrow and limited mind, it is impossible for you to hear or learn anything because of your proud fetish worship of the books the priest wrote.
The OT books themselves still have traces of the ancient Nodite civilization but you are simply to invested in the easy path of book worship rather then the faith path of following truth. You are therefore an intellectually dishonest person, craving conformity, one who cowers in superstitious fear.
There simply is no difference between you and those who rejected Jesus' Liberal gospel of spiritual salvation.
We don't have anything in common to discuss.
Colter
Colter.You just come in with your new religion,hijacking the old books as your foundation,claiming to be the truth.
And judging the Holy bible.Trying to rip it appart according to your confused
believes. You say you believe in God and Jesus,
well I have news for you. Satan also believe.
So where do you stand?You can never produce the big picture with your confusing
dogma,just a lot of rattling.There is no substance to it.
There is no picture produced in the end,its hollywood.wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,07:40) Coulter, The Deluge Legend in global in scope and includes lands in South America. The flavors from place to place are different. It was only a brief flood where the waters abated after 150 days. There may have been places that were actually still above water as it exceeded the tallest mountain of the area by a mere 15 cubits.
Hi Kerwin,That would be starting on the 151st day, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2013,08:17) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,07:40) Coulter, The Deluge Legend in global in scope and includes lands in South America. The flavors from place to place are different. It was only a brief flood where the waters abated after 150 days. There may have been places that were actually still above water as it exceeded the tallest mountain of the area by a mere 15 cubits.
Hi Kerwin,That would be starting on the 151st day, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J.,I am not sure but it seems, according to the KJV, that it all abated 150 days after it was first covered. Plate tectonics seem to be the major factor in the Flood with the 40 days of rain being a side effect.
At this time the highest annual rainfall on record is a little short of 87 feet. That would not flood the world to the extend reported. It would require somewhere near 100 times that.
Water was also reported as coming from the ground. The ice pacts would have melted and tsunamis would be common. Volcanoes and current changes would wreck havoc with the climate systems.
Pangaea was first proposed from an interpretation of Genesis 1, where is states the water was gathered together in one place.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2013,08:17) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,07:40) Coulter, The Deluge Legend in global in scope and includes lands in South America. The flavors from place to place are different. It was only a brief flood where the waters abated after 150 days. There may have been places that were actually still above water as it exceeded the tallest mountain of the area by a mere 15 cubits.
Hi Kerwin,That would be starting on the 151st day, right?
God bless
Ed J
Ed J.,I am not sure but it seems, according to the KJV, that it all abated 150 days after it was first covered. Plate tectonics seem to be the major factor in the Flood with the 40 days of rain being a side effect.
At this time the highest annual rainfall on record is a little short of 87 feet. That would not flood the world to the extend reported. It would require somewhere near 100 times that.
Water was also reported as coming from the ground. The ice pacts would have melted and tsunamis would be common. Volcanoes and current changes would wreck havoc with the climate systems.
Pangaea was first proposed from an interpretation of Genesis 1, where is states the water was gathered together in one place.
Hi Kerwin,That would mean on the 151st day the waters were abated, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2013,11:42) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,16:38) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 14 2013,08:17) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 14 2013,07:40) Coulter, The Deluge Legend in global in scope and includes lands in South America. The flavors from place to place are different. It was only a brief flood where the waters abated after 150 days. There may have been places that were actually still above water as it exceeded the tallest mountain of the area by a mere 15 cubits.
Hi Kerwin,That would be starting on the 151st day, right?
God bless
Ed J
Ed J.,I am not sure but it seems, according to the KJV, that it all abated 150 days after it was first covered. Plate tectonics seem to be the major factor in the Flood with the 40 days of rain being a side effect.
At this time the highest annual rainfall on record is a little short of 87 feet. That would not flood the world to the extend reported. It would require somewhere near 100 times that.
Water was also reported as coming from the ground. The ice pacts would have melted and tsunamis would be common. Volcanoes and current changes would wreck havoc with the climate systems.
Pangaea was first proposed from an interpretation of Genesis 1, where is states the water was gathered together in one place.
Hi Kerwin,That would mean on the 151st day the waters were abated, right?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,I think that the 40 days of rain occurred and then the 150 days of abatement. If that is so then the next day would have been the first day of the new norm.
It is truly pathetic to witness presumably grown men desperately reaching, stretching, wishing, hoping in vain to make the self important Hebrew narratives (written by the same authoritative vain of people who rejected and killed Jesus), fit into the possibilities of common sense.
The flood story was simply the incorporation of a myth for the purpose of connecting blood lines.
7. The Floods in Mesopotamia
(874.6) 78:7.1 “The river dwellers were accustomed to rivers overflowing their banks at certain seasons; these periodic floods were annual events in their lives. But new perils threatened the valley of Mesopotamia as a result of progressive geologic changes to the north.
(874.7) 78:7.2 For thousands of years after the submergence of the first Eden the mountains about the eastern coast of the Mediterranean and those to the northwest and northeast of Mesopotamia continued to rise. This elevation of the highlands was greatly accelerated about 5000 B.C., and this, together with greatly increased snowfall on the northern mountains, caused unprecedented floods each spring throughout the Euphrates valley. These spring floods grew increasingly worse so that eventually the inhabitants of the river regions were driven to the eastern highlands. For almost a thousand years scores of cities were practically deserted because of these extensive deluges.
(874.8) 78:7.3 Almost five thousand years later, as the Hebrew priests in Babylonian captivity sought to trace the Jewish people back to Adam, they found great difficulty in piecing the story together; and it occurred to one of them to abandon the effort, to let the whole world drown in its wickedness at the time of Noah’s flood, and thus to be in a better position to trace Abraham right back to one of the three surviving sons of Noah.
(875.1) 78:7.4 The traditions of a time when water covered the whole of the earth’s surface are universal. Many races harbor the story of a world-wide flood some time during past ages. The Biblical story of Noah, the ark, and the flood is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood during the Babylonian captivity. There has never been a universal flood since life was established on Urantia. The only time the surface of the earth was completely covered by water was during those Archeozoic ages before the land had begun to appear.
(875.2) 78:7.5 But Noah really lived; he was a wine maker of Aram, a river settlement near Erech. He kept a written record of the days of the river’s rise from year to year. He brought much ridicule upon himself by going up and down the river valley advocating that all houses be built of wood, boat fashion, and that the family animals be put on board each night as the flood season approached. He would go to the neighboring river settlements every year and warn them that in so many days the floods would come. Finally a year came in which the annual floods were greatly augmented by unusually heavy rainfall so that the sudden rise of the waters wiped out the entire village; only Noah and his immediate family were saved in their houseboat.
(875.3) 78:7.6 These floods completed the disruption of Andite civilization. With the ending of this period of deluge, the second garden was no more. Only in the south and among the Sumerians did any trace of the former glory remain.
(875.4) 78:7.7 The remnants of this, one of the oldest civilizations, are to be found in these regions of Mesopotamia and to the northeast and northwest. But still older vestiges of the days of Dalamatia exist under the waters of the Persian Gulf, and the first Eden lies submerged under the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea.”
Have faith in God, not journalism!
Colter
Colter,
I am aware of the reported floods of Mesopotamia. Such floods are rather common. The Nial, the Yangtzee also flood and these are not attached to the Great Flood, nor do they account for the reports of the Great flood from nations and peoples all over the world. The people of Mesopotamia, like Egypt, relied on such floods for the fertile soil they deposited.
The the theory of Pangaea began was conceived from an interpretation of a certain passage of the Creation even and only later confirmed be scientists. In fact the vast majority of scientist are reported to have initially firmly rejected it.
So given God created Pangaea and later broke it up then the Great Flood seems the most likely time that occurred. In that case the Great Flood is just the side effects of the breakup of the world plate.
Do you find any flaws in the theory of Pangaea and its later destruction?
My Source:
Genesis 1:9-10
King James Version (KJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.Quote (Colter @ Mar. 14 2013,22:38) It is truly pathetic to witness presumably grown men desperately reaching, stretching, wishing, hoping in vain to make the self important Hebrew narratives (written by the same authoritative vain of people who rejected and killed Jesus), fit into the possibilities of common sense. The flood story was simply the incorporation of a myth for the purpose of connecting blood lines.
7. The Floods in Mesopotamia
(874.6) 78:7.1 “The river dwellers were accustomed to rivers overflowing their banks at certain seasons; these periodic floods were annual events in their lives. But new perils threatened the valley of Mesopotamia as a result of progressive geologic changes to the north.
(874.7) 78:7.2 For thousands of years after the submergence of the first Eden the mountains about the eastern coast of the Mediterranean and those to the northwest and northeast of Mesopotamia continued to rise. This elevation of the highlands was greatly accelerated about 5000 B.C., and this, together with greatly increased snowfall on the northern mountains, caused unprecedented floods each spring throughout the Euphrates valley. These spring floods grew increasingly worse so that eventually the inhabitants of the river regions were driven to the eastern highlands. For almost a thousand years scores of cities were practically deserted because of these extensive deluges.
(874.8) 78:7.3 Almost five thousand years later, as the Hebrew priests in Babylonian captivity sought to trace the Jewish people back to Adam, they found great difficulty in piecing the story together; and it occurred to one of them to abandon the effort, to let the whole world drown in its wickedness at the time of Noah’s flood, and thus to be in a better position to trace Abraham right back to one of the three surviving sons of Noah.
(875.1) 78:7.4 The traditions of a time when water covered the whole of the earth’s surface are universal. Many races harbor the story of a world-wide flood some time during past ages. The Biblical story of Noah, the ark, and the flood is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood during the Babylonian captivity. There has never been a universal flood since life was established on Urantia. The only time the surface of the earth was completely covered by water was during those Archeozoic ages before the land had begun to appear.
(875.2) 78:7.5 But Noah really lived; he was a wine maker of Aram, a river settlement near Erech. He kept a written record of the days of the river’s rise from year to year. He brought much ridicule upon himself by going up and down the river valley advocating that all houses be built of wood, boat fashion, and that the family animals be put on board each night as the flood season approached. He would go to the neighboring river settlements every year and warn them that in so many days the floods would come. Finally a year came in which the annual floods were greatly augmented by unusually heavy rainfall so that the sudden rise of the waters wiped out the entire village; only Noah and his immediate family were saved in their houseboat.
(875.3) 78:7.6 These floods completed the disruption of Andite civilization. With the ending of this period of deluge, the second garden was no more. Only in the south and among the Sumerians did any trace of the former glory remain.
(875.4) 78:7.7 The remnants of this, one of the oldest civilizations, are to be found in these regions of Mesopotamia and to the northeast and northwest. But still older vestiges of the days of Dalamatia exist under the waters of the Persian Gulf, and the first Eden lies submerged under the eastern end of the Mediterranean Sea.”
Have faith in God, not journalism!
Colter
Colter.And you have accepted all that as the truth.
Its your choice of truth.I follow jesus teachings,the old and new prophets and the apostles.
The truth is that Jesus came to teach the gospels; no urantia nonsense.You follow your new masters,because your spirit and theirs connects.You are one with them.
wakeup.
Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,00:57) Colter, I am aware of the reported floods of Mesopotamia. Such floods are rather common. The Nial, the Yangtzee also flood and these are not attached to the Great Flood, nor do they account for the reports of the Great flood from nations and peoples all over the world. The people of Mesopotamia, like Egypt, relied on such floods for the fertile soil they deposited.
The the theory of Pangaea began was conceived from an interpretation of a certain passage of the Creation even and only later confirmed be scientists. In fact the vast majority of scientist are reported to have initially firmly rejected it.
So given God created Pangaea and later broke it up then the Great Flood seems the most likely time that occurred. In that case the Great Flood is just the side effects of the breakup of the world plate.
Do you find any flaws in the theory of Pangaea and its later destruction?
My Source:
Genesis 1:9-10
King James Version (KJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Most cultures have great flood stories, there have been many great floods, but none that killed every living thing.The continental drift apart from a one large land mass began some 500,000,000 years ago, it was slow and continues today. The concept of Pangaea has to be forced into the Hebrews creation story, one of many creation stories already in existence by the time of the captivity.
Kerwin, I have a question for you, If Adam was the first man then who was taking notes when God was “speaking creation” into existence? Especially when it is written in Hebrew, an alphabet which dates to about 900 B.C. borrowed in part from the Philistines?…..featuring Moses who was older then 900 BC?
Colter
Hi Colter,
“The Bible” says “YHVH” was in direct communication with Moses,
so that must mean Moses was taking dictation from God; right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Mar. 15 2013,08:37) Hi Colter, “The Bible” says “YHVH” was in direct communication with Moses,
so that must mean Moses was taking dictation from God; right?God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
No, the narrative is written ABOUT Moses, not by him and in Hebrew, which didn't start until 4-500 years after Moses lived.The Hebrew priest exaggerated their redacted history and then destroyed all of their secular history books.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,02:11) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,00:57) Colter, I am aware of the reported floods of Mesopotamia. Such floods are rather common. The Nial, the Yangtzee also flood and these are not attached to the Great Flood, nor do they account for the reports of the Great flood from nations and peoples all over the world. The people of Mesopotamia, like Egypt, relied on such floods for the fertile soil they deposited.
The the theory of Pangaea began was conceived from an interpretation of a certain passage of the Creation even and only later confirmed be scientists. In fact the vast majority of scientist are reported to have initially firmly rejected it.
So given God created Pangaea and later broke it up then the Great Flood seems the most likely time that occurred. In that case the Great Flood is just the side effects of the breakup of the world plate.
Do you find any flaws in the theory of Pangaea and its later destruction?
My Source:
Genesis 1:9-10
King James Version (KJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Most cultures have great flood stories, there have been many great floods, but none that killed every living thing.The continental drift apart from a one large land mass began some 500,000,000 years ago, it was slow and continues today. The concept of Pangaea has to be forced into the Hebrews creation story, one of many creation stories already in existence by the time of the captivity.
Kerwin, I have a question for you, If Adam was the first man then who was taking notes when God was “speaking creation” into existence? Especially when it is written in Hebrew, an alphabet which dates to about 900 B.C. borrowed in part from the Philistines?…..featuring Moses who was older then 900 BC?
Colter
Colter.So therefore the Bible must be wrong, and those cultures are right. And you say you worship Jesus and God.
Your Jesus is not the word of God but some Michael.
Your God is not Jehovah,but some god existing with other gods on some unknown planet.You are going by the precepts of man.
Gods wisdom is foolishness to man.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 15 2013,09:17) Quote (Colter @ Mar. 15 2013,02:11) Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 15 2013,00:57) Colter, I am aware of the reported floods of Mesopotamia. Such floods are rather common. The Nial, the Yangtzee also flood and these are not attached to the Great Flood, nor do they account for the reports of the Great flood from nations and peoples all over the world. The people of Mesopotamia, like Egypt, relied on such floods for the fertile soil they deposited.
The the theory of Pangaea began was conceived from an interpretation of a certain passage of the Creation even and only later confirmed be scientists. In fact the vast majority of scientist are reported to have initially firmly rejected it.
So given God created Pangaea and later broke it up then the Great Flood seems the most likely time that occurred. In that case the Great Flood is just the side effects of the breakup of the world plate.
Do you find any flaws in the theory of Pangaea and its later destruction?
My Source:
Genesis 1:9-10
King James Version (KJV)9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
Most cultures have great flood stories, there have been many great floods, but none that killed every living thing.The continental drift apart from a one large land mass began some 500,000,000 years ago, it was slow and continues today. The concept of Pangaea has to be forced into the Hebrews creation story, one of many creation stories already in existence by the time of the captivity.
Kerwin, I have a question for you, If Adam was the first man then who was taking notes when God was “speaking creation” into existence? Especially when it is written in Hebrew, an alphabet which dates to about 900 B.C. borrowed in part from the Philistines?…..featuring Moses who was older then 900 BC?
Colter
Colter.So therefore the Bible must be wrong, and those cultures are right. And you say you worship Jesus and God.
Your Jesus is not the word of God but some Michael.
Your God is not Jehovah,but some god existing with other gods on some unknown planet.You are going by the precepts of man.
Gods wisdom is foolishness to man.wakeup.
The term “Jehovah” is a late (ca. 1100 CE) derivative of a Latin translation combining JHVH with the vowels of Adonai. Gods name is not known.I could not have been robbed as I have never believed that God wrote the Bible.
Caino
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