Was adam created perfect

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    martian
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    The words “good” and “evil” are poorly translated in our English bibles. “Good” would be better translated “functional” and “evil” as “dysfunctional”. (I will provide the etomology of the words if requested)
    Adam was created as a functional human. He functioned as God created him to function. Adam had the opportunity to grow and become perfectly mature. He failed and became dysfunctional. He did not work right as God intended him to do. sin makes you dysfunctional and you do not work right.

    #162005
    GeneBalthrop
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    martin ……….that does appear to fit , but is it is not to difficult would like to see it posted brother. I recall Jodi Lee said that also in one of her posts.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

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    gollamudi
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    Quote (Gene @ Dec. 03 2009,03:33)
    seekingtruth…………..Does is not say GOD knows the end from the beginning. GOD full well knew Man would sin, left to his own (influenced) Choices. Free Will had nothing to do with it they (Adam and Eve) were influenced to sin. Nothing FREE about it. Man did not have the character to not sin yet, he had no knowledge of Good and Evil yet, before he took of the forbidden fruit. While i do agree if Man had not eaten of the tree (that which produces from itself) the knowledge of good and evil, he would have not died. Never the less if God said look man has become as WE are, (KNOWING)  Good and Evil. The word knowing means to have experience with or inmate knowledge of.  I believe the whole thing was in the Plan of GOD all a long, He forewarned man of the consequences of it, as any Father would do to his children , but he also know they lacked the character need to resist the temptation in fact there eye of (understanding) were not even opened unto the true consequences, even though GOD had forewarned them. Sure GOD the Father would, like any Father rather not see His childern go through the suffering that was a consequence of their wrongs choices. But none the less sometimes these sufferings are need full to gain wisdom and understanding. God even add hardship on them to further teach the effects of sin, he cursed the ground for (THEIR SAKE). This lesson was not going to be easy to learn, but learn they would, God was going to make sure of that. So it comes down to this, Did God want them to sin  (NO) He wished they had the character to not sin, but did He know they would , I believe He did Know from the very beginning they would sin.  IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene


    Very good post brother Gene. I do agree with you that man is not having a real free will except that he has an influenced will or limited choices to make. But God is in full control over his life as He has over all His creation.

    Thanks and love to you
    Adam

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