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t8, I watched the video and although clever, I do not believe it, because the first white horse represents God’s truth, whereas the teacher in the video believes the first white horse represents something wrong/ false.
Here are some key words in that verse.
“Come.” I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out overcoming and to overcome.
White represents purity and truth, and never represents badness or falsity in Revelation.
The white horse and rider overcomes. The same word overcome/ overcoming is found in other parts of Revelations. Here are a few examples:
Revelation 2.7 To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.
Revelation 2.11 He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.
Revelation 2.17 To him who overcomes, to him I will give [some] of the hidden manna.A crown is given to the one who sits on the white horse. You can see the crown AND the word overcome together in the following:
Revelations 2.10 Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. He who overcomes will not be hurt by the second death.’
Revelation 3.11 I am coming quickly; hold fast what you have, so that no one will take your crown. He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God and I will give you the crown of life.Revelation 6.2 I looked, and behold, a white horse, and he who sat on it had a bow; and a crown was given to him, and he went out overcoming and to overcome.
Wikipedia: “Irenaeus, an influential Christian theologian of the 2nd century, was among the first to interpret this horseman as Christ himself, his white horse representing the successful spread of the gospel. Various scholars have since supported this notion, citing the later appearance, in Revelation 19, of Christ mounted on a white horse, appearing as The Word of God.”
Revelation is repetitive/ reiterative and non chronological. The white horse and rider is again in Revelations 19.
Then I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse! The one sitting on it is called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he judges and makes war. His eyes are like a flame of fire, and on his head are many diadems, and he has a name written that no one knows but himself. He is clothed in a robe dipped in blood, and the name by which he is called is The Word of God. And the armies of heaven, arrayed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses. From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.
How could it then be representative of Middle Eastern flags?
Miia,
That’s just my view. May be right, may be wrong.
Your words make it look like you doubt.
Any reasonable person who reads your words knows they are your opinion so you do not need to tell them that.
What you need to do is test what you understand in order to be more confident it comes from God and not you.
I agree with your opinion because what Jesus once said in reference to his biological mother and brothers.
He also called his brother Jews the children of the evil one and so disowned them.
I don’t care what people like Ed appear to teach.
Hi Miia,
It’s the bible that teaches islam is antichrist, not me
Ed,
The bible does not teach Islam is the Antichrist other than to the point that it is just another false teaching and all false teachings are against Christ, even those that claim to be for him.
Your words make it look like you doubt.
Any reasonable person who reads your words knows they are your opinion so you do not need to tell them that.
Kerwin, it depends who I’m addressing. When I speak to people I know well, I am confident and don’t say imo. However, with some people online, caution comes into play from experience.
I agree with your opinion because what Jesus once said in reference to his biological mother and brothers.
Yes.
Hi Miia,
It’s the bible that teaches islam is antichrist, not me
Ed,
The Zionist Jews are Antichrist more so. Learn what their Talmud says about Jesus. Muslims respect Jesus and believe he is the Word of God, and Messiah, and look for the second advent. Many religions do not believe even that much. Yes, they are ‘Antichrist’ so much as they do not believe Jesus is the (literal) Son of God, (they are misled). But that doesn’t equate them to the Beast of Revelations, the Abomination, or Babylon, as you teach, and the rest, such as the wars and invasions and the killing of Muslims being justified and of God.miia,
As of this time the shoot down of that jet is a rumor.
Yes it is. But the latest news today from Mirror UK, and Daily Express:
‘One Step Closer To War’ – Raf Given All Clear To Shoot Down Russian Aircraft
World War Three Could Be Just 30 Seconds Away As Attacks On…
Ed,
The bible does not teach Islam is the Antichrist other than to the point that it is just another false teaching and all false teachings are against Christ, even those that claim to be for him.
Hi Kerwin,
“the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.” (John 14:30)
The prince of this world came to Muhammad in a cave. (see 2Cor.11:14)“But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you
than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before,
so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,
let him be accursed.” (Gal 1:8-9)________________
God bless
Ed JEd J,
The prince of this world is not Muhammad but is instead Satan as his place is now this world, which he rules. Scripture also calls him the God of this world. Muhammad was but one of many of his subjects.
Latter Day Saints also claim an angel brought them their doctrine.
Both of their teachings are of the devil.
The Antichrist and the False Prophet are yet to come though there are many types of those today and in yesteryear.
The prince of this world came to Muhammad in a cave. (see 2Cor.11:14)
Ed J,
The prince of this world is not Muhammad but is instead Satan
Hi Kerwin,
Do you not read my posts?
This is NOT on any of the major world news sources, but it is on Jews News, Investors News and Catholic News.
Chinese warplanes join their Russian counterparts in devastating air raids against ISIS terrorists
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/10/09/wwiii-has-begun-chinese-warplanes-join-their-russian-counterparts-in-devastating-air-raids-against-isis-terrorists/
http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/100915-774990-china-joining-russia-to-humiliate-us-weakened-by-obama.htm
https://www.catholic.org/news/international/middle_east/story.php?id=64637So now we have all these different countries on different sides all in the one area.
I believe we are so close to WW3, that if nothing transpires, world leaders will look back and tell us how close we actually become.
Russian plane crash, was Russian jet shot down
All of the ISIS attacks recently have nothing to do with Muslims as people in general. Obviously, it is a spiritual battle to cause rebellion against God’s laws for Christians, that is to love thy neighbor as thyself.
Off topic slightly: Christians today, and Muslims and Jews are misled. They each look to the earthly arrival of the Messiah.
Jesus will not set foot on this planet, he has already done that!
The end of the world will come with fire, and only some will survive. Simple as that. It will be “a time which is least expected”, meaning people will not be looking for the end of the world but will instead be looking for an earthly rule. Wrong wrong and wrong.
So many people will be deceived, and will instead worship or follow a false Messiah.
Ellen White of the Adventists warns about this, and I believe her.
What will most likely happen is, there will be a world tyrant, (Christians and perhaps Muslims will call him the Antichrist). The “messiah” (the fake Jesus) will come and destroy the “antichrist”. Christians, Jews and Muslims will believe it is Jesus and follow him. He will come like a fire from the sky, he will work miracles, heal all people and raise the dead. No, it will not be him, because if you know the words of Jesus , He warned us “not to go out”, “not to believe them if they say ‘Lo here’ or ‘Lo there”.
Listen to him, don’t listen to anyone else.
I’m confused with your post. Are you saying Jesus has already come, but another will come and people will follow him. He will be the Antichrist.
If Jesus has already come (again) then why is the world the way it was before he supposedly came?
Putin ratchets the tension by dispatching warship to Mediterranean as Moscow expert warns war is ‘likely’
- Russia warns of ‘serious consequences’ after Nato country downs Russian military jet for first time since 1953
- Two pilots were reportedly shot dead by Syrian rebels as they parachuted from burning Sukhoi Su-24 warplane
- Third Russian said to have died when rescue helicopter was hit with anti-tank missile by another rebel group
- Russia denied plane had been in Turkish airspace but Nato secretary-general says assessment showed it had
- A warship has been deployed to the Mediterranean Sea to destroy potential threats to Russian forces in Syria
- Britain has declared military back-up is on standby to support Turkey in any revenge attack by Putin’s forces
Yes, been watching closely. Now Russia is striking back in Turkish border crossing.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/622093/Putin-revenge-Russia-strikes-Turkish-border-crossings
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