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Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,21:30) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,01:22) Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,20:25) Hi Wakeup, The problem with muslims is: they don't know what Jesus being the Messiah means.
Muhammad is their anointed leader instead of Jesus Christ – “GOD's Anointed Leader”.God bless
Ed J
(1)Some christians also believe as the muslems do.
Jesus is just one created; to pass on/carry the Word of God.
Just as the prophets.(2)They can not believe that God can give His own Word a form;
and send him to earth.(3)They say that Jesus was created at his birth.
(4)Can not understand that his birth was just the process
of turning the Word into flesh.(5)Jesus said when He was confronted with the situation,them calling Mary his mother seeking him.
He said: Who is my mother? This should make the lights go flashing;and ask why did He say that?No one would/should ask;who is my mother.
wakeup.
Hi Wakeup,1) I don't know any christian that believes that? Not even Mike.
2) Your attempting to regurgitate the same old religious rederick again.
3) Christ became a separate being from God at his conception in his mother Mary.
4) No, the turning of “The Word” into flesh happened when Jesus was baptized with God's HolySpirit at the Jordan river.
5) …and your point is …?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EDJyour #3 and 4 ,is wrong according to Paul ;Col 1:15 He(Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation.
so Jesus was created before his earthly mother was even dream about it ;
Hi Pierre,
No, the only disagreement is with you.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,22:15) Hi Pierre, No, the only disagreement is with you.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Edjplease explain it without changing scriptures ,and not breaking any ;
let see it
Hi Pierre,
When God went to the trouble of explaining Jesus relationship to him as a Son,
I think God knew exactly how we would take that, God as his father and Mary
as his mother. Yet many think they need to redefine what God said; such as:1. No no no, Jesus was really God in the flesh.
2. No no no, Jesus was an Angel morphedTM into flesh.
3. No no no, Mary was only used as a surrogate mother to Jesus.
4. And the list of adding to God's word goes on, may God have mercy on us.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ June 22 2014,03:19)
Edjplease explain it without changing scriptures ,and not breaking any ;
let see it
(John 16:27-28)“I came forth from the Father” (Jesus was God's Son)
“I came out from God” (Jesus was God's only begotten)Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,22:32) Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2014,03:19)
Edjplease explain it without changing scriptures ,and not breaking any ;
let see it
(John 16:27-28)“I came forth from the Father” (Jesus was God's Son)
“I came out from God” (Jesus was God's only begotten)
EdjQuote 3) Christ became a separate being from God at his conception in his mother Mary. 4) No, the turning of “The Word” into flesh happened when Jesus was baptized with God's HolySpirit at the Jordan river.
you did not explain anything that prove this 3 and 4
Hi Pierre,
“I came forth from the Father”
“I came out from God” (John 16:27-28)The plain and simple meanings of these two quotes of John is where the answer is for point #3.
3) Christ became a separate being from God at his conception in his mother Mary
because before he was born there was no Jesus, only God.4) The turning of “The Word” into flesh happened when Jesus was baptized with God's HolySpirit at the Jordan river.
To understand that “The Word” is God's HolySpirit, is to know that “The Word” was FIRST made flesh at the Jordan river.The systems of religion and traditions of men that teach otherwise communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgPierre,
The plain and simple truth is:
God's words are spirit!
Meaning “The Word” of God is the spirit of God.Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,05:37) Pierre, The plain and simple truth is:
God's words are spirit!
Meaning “The Word” of God is the spirit of God.
Trying to joggle it to mean Jesus leads to goofy doctrines like this from Wakeup…The Word of God was an adult in Heaven (<– what does he even mean by this??)
Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,00:37) Pierre, The plain and simple truth is:
God's words are spirit!
Meaning “The Word” of God is the spirit of God.
Edjno,that is not the scriptures truth that is your truth ,
you have no scriptures to prove anything you said;
and for your information ;
JN 15:20 “Remember the word that I said to you, ‘ A slave is not greater than his master.’ If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you; if they kept My word, they will keep yours also
words together have meaning and so are directions and that is what Jesus says ;
Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,22:28) Hi Pierre, When God went to the trouble of explaining Jesus relationship to him as a Son,
I think God knew exactly how we would take that, God as his father and Mary
as his mother. Yet many think they need to redefine what God said; such as:1. No no no, Jesus was really God in the flesh.
2. No no no, Jesus was an Angel morphedTM into flesh.
3. No no no, Mary was only used as a surrogate mother to Jesus.
4. And the list of adding to God's word goes on, may God have mercy on us.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
EdjI ask you to explain it through the scriptures
you haven show me one single scripture and I show you many ,
opinions I do not care for it ,
scriptures or admit you are wrong and scriptures are right as it is spelled
Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2014,09:28) edj Quote God's words are spirit! where is that said in scriptures
“the words that I speak unto you, are spirit” (John 6:63)
Quote (Ed J @ June 22 2014,04:39) Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2014,09:28) edj Quote God's words are spirit! where is that said in scriptures
“the words that I speak unto you, are spirit” (John 6:63)
Edjthis is the answer;words together have meaning and so are directions and that is what Jesus says ;
Quote (Ed J @ June 21 2014,12:32) 3) Christ became a separate being from God at his conception in his mother Mary because before he was born there was no Jesus, only God.
Please explain. Are you saying that there were no angels before Jesus was born of Mary? There was no Satan, or no humans before this time?Also, are you saying that “Jesus” used to BE God, but then “branched off” from God to become an individual living entity who was NO LONGER God?
Also, it doesn't take any “ADDING” to the scriptures by us to understand that Phil 2:6-8 tells how JESUS was existing in the form of God before emptying himself and being made in the likeness of a human being.
Plus, the following three scriptures shoot down your “The Word is the Holy Spirit” theory:
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.John 15:26
But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:John 16:7
Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.Those scriptures make it clear that “The Word” is someone completely different than “The Holy Spirit”.
Ed, there are too many holes in your doctrine to count, but tell me who you think said the words of John 6:38.
Wakeup and journey,
Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection? It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?
Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:28) Wakeup and journey, Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection? It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?
Mikeb.Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word.
The difference is that after the thousand years,God will not
speak vocally through His Word anymore. To His spirit children he will speak telepathically. He can summon his children from a far distant away.All will be in the one website, God all in all.
wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,08:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:28) Wakeup and journey, Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection? It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?
Mikeb.Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word.
The difference is that after the thousand years,God will not
speak vocally through His Word anymore. To His spirit children he will speak telepathically. He can summon his children from a far distant away.All will be in the one website, God all in all.
wakeup.
wQuote Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word. did you ever try that :to speak through your own words”
i know we can speak our words through ;a radio,Bluetooth system, micro,a tube, a mouth,or through someone else if we write them down first ,
please help us to understand this logic
Quote (terraricca @ June 22 2014,14:09) Quote (Wakeup @ June 22 2014,08:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:28) Wakeup and journey, Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection? It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?
Mikeb.Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word.
The difference is that after the thousand years,God will not
speak vocally through His Word anymore. To His spirit children he will speak telepathically. He can summon his children from a far distant away.All will be in the one website, God all in all.
wakeup.
wQuote Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word. did you ever try that :to speak through your own words”
i know we can speak our words through ;a radio,Bluetooth system, micro,a tube, a mouth,or through someone else if we write them down first ,
please help us to understand this logic
T.I am speaking to you from a distance right now, through the air.
Called the web,of the internet.Communicating through
frequencies in the air.
We can have all sorts of disagreements,but in the kingdom of heaven there will be none of this; for all will be of the one spirit.wakeup.
Quote (Wakeup @ June 21 2014,20:53) Quote (mikeboll64 @ June 22 2014,13:28) Wakeup and journey, Who will judge those who are raised in the second resurrection? It is, after all, called “The Lamb's Book of Life”, right?
Mikeb.Nothing has changed,God always speaks through His Word.
The difference is that after the thousand years,God will not
speak vocally through His Word anymore. To His spirit children he will speak telepathically. He can summon his children from a far distant away.All will be in the one website, God all in all.
wakeup.
That's all very nice, Wakeup.Would you now please answer the question I asked?
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