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Please understand that the muslems are only used as one of the tools of the western nations,
to accomplish part of their agenda.
When they have accomplished; they also will go after the muslems.
Because in their heart is to destroy 95% of the world population.Yes Wakeup, understood.
Camilla, they kill Believers, Jews, and others thinking they are doing a service for God. That time has certainly come.
hi
where in scriptures does it say that the war of GOG of Magog is between certain nation ? as i can read it it as more to do with the unbelievers and the believers
the unbeliever being anyone that as not accepted Christ ransom to be saved ,the believers are those that have accepted the grace ,it does not matter if he is jew,or gentile ,or anything else ,
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,all this happen after the second resurrection ,
Camilla, they kill Believers, Jews, and others thinking they are doing a service for God. That time has certainly come.
Could be, t8.
where in scriptures does it say that the war of GOG of Magog is between certain nation ? as i can read it it as more to do with the unbelievers and the believers
Hi T.
It says the four corners of the earth (i.e., the whole world).
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,all this happen after the second resurrection ,
I think you will find it happens before the first resurrection.
Hi Camillia.
The gog and magog war can happen before the coming,
Because satan will not be cast into the fire at the coming.
Revelation 19:20 And *THE BEAST* was taken, and with him the *THE FALSE PROPHET* that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. *THESE BOTH* were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
WHY IS SATAN AND THE ANGELS SPARED FROM THE FIRE?
Can you explain why?wakeup.
hi Camilla
Hi T.
It says the four corners of the earth (i.e., the whole world).
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison
Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.
Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur,all this happen after the second resurrection ,
I think you will find it happens before the first resurrection.
why are you changing the scriptures into your own false believes ;you are not God nor Jesus nor anyone of his disciples ,or even a believer into the written word of God for you change what is written ,
hi all
why are you changing the written word of God ? are you better than those that God chose to write his words ?
if you are then tell me for i have some question still waiting for answers ,
If any of us are wrong, Terraricca, then point out what you consider to be error, and give us your perspective for consideration, (minus the emotionally loaded words, because not many people would bother to read through them ).
Hi Camellia.
I should have said that the gog and magog war can not happen before the coming.
Because satan was not cast into the fire at the coming.
wakeup.
camillia
Hi T.
1)If any of us are wrong, Terraricca, then point out what you consider to be error, and give us your perspective for consideration, (minus the emotionally loaded words, because not many people would bother to read through them ).
2)It says the four corners of the earth (i.e., the whole world).
3)I think you will find it happens before the first resurrection.Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison(it says will be released so not directly right after the 1000 years )Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
1)2) Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.(those nation are coming from the second resurrection)
3)Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.(this was the end or their wickedness )
this happen after the second resurrection and after the 1000 years and after the time given to judge all the people that came out of the second resurrectionTerra,
Rev 20:5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.)
Rev 20:7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison(it says will be released so not directly right after the 1000 years )Rev 20:13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what he had done.
1)2) Rev 20:8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth—Gog and Magog—to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.(those nation are coming from the second resurrection)
3)Rev 20:9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God’s people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.(this was the end or their wickedness )
this happen after the second resurrection and after the 1000 years and after the time given to judge all the people that came out of the second resurrectionI see you have shuffled the verses, something you used to condemn funnily enough!
Strange how some can do those things they condemn others for! .. hmmm.
Nevertheless ..
You are closer than you used to be .. I see you have learned off of Wakeup after all ..
Except I see you have decided to change it up a bit to give that “I discerned this all on my own” appeal ..
But unfortunately, your input is way way off ..
There are no more bad guys after the second judgment I am afraid to inform you.
Shouldn’t this be painfully obvious by the nature of the actual second judgment itself?
So disconcerting to behold.
According to some biblical scholars and map specialists, Magog, Gomer, Tubal, Meshech, and Togarmah are all in one place, Turkey.
It was Russia before; and now it is turkey, because of what is going on there?
Next could be the north pole?
I say there is no Gog and Magog today; according to understanding prophesies.wakeup.
I know only a few that will be of Magog.
1.Persia.
2.Ethiopia.
3.Libia.
They will not change their names in a 1000years.wakeup.
I must agree with Wakeup ..
I’ve also heard the “experts” say it was likely Russia .. others say Germany is Gomer etc .. no one really knows at the moment.
I have read their names in my readings in the chronologies for example, but that’s all ..
Genesis 10:2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
Genesis 10:3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
The people of Togarmah even traded with Tyrus ..
Ezekiel 27:14 They of the house of Togarmah traded in thy fairs with horses and horsemen and mules.
But who are these peoples today? .. yes Japeth is a clue .. but Japeth too has mingled himself over the millennia!
The world is a different place now, peoples (tribes etc) have dissipated and become mere “last names” within the nations of this world ..
But what does God say is going to happen when Christ returns?
That “Every man will flee to his own people” .. that men will plant their own food & build their own homes & sit under their own vines etc ..
Sounds like (as you’d expect for the kingdom outsiders) the world will revert back to villages etc, and each village will likely be inhabited by (eventually) a handful of mixed tribes per village (for breeding purposes for one) like in ye old days ..
I suppose that is why God reverts to calling them by peoples (tribes / family groups) during the millennium.
To me, there is no doubt that the Gog & Magog event takes place at the end of the millennial reign.
Thanks.
Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meshech#mediaviewer/File:Noahsworld_map.jpgNo idea how legit this is. Wikipedia says: “The World as known to the Hebrews. This 1854 map [1] locates Meshech together with Gog and Magog, roughly in the southern Caucasus”.
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