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Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:37) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14) No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity: The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
No you along with those brainwashed by the Trinity Doctrine miss the point.Look again. He never says he is God. They think he alluded to it. He reminds them of the usage of the word elohim/theos and how it applies to God's sons/counsel. He then finishes with saying that he is God's son. Even a child could follow that without concluding that Jesus was claiming to be God. Problem is, when you believe that he is God, then you take verses like that to support your view and are unable to see it for what it is. In other words you understanding is tainted.
Believing that Jesus is the son of God is what makes a person a true Believer in Jesus Christ, along with believing that he is the messiah. Jesus built his Church on these truths and the Gates of Hell will never prevail against it.
Not even if 99% of all religions believed in the Trinity would it prevail against the truth that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah.
You are either for him or against him. If you are for him, then you would believe his words. If you are against him, then you disagree with him.
And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity. The depth of self delusion and dishonesty among the anti God crowd is when they attempt to discredit the private instruction Jesus gave to the apostles about his identity as the Father incarnate.But the final crowning insult, that which relegates these rebels to a fringe laughing stock, is when Jesus returns to his eternal place in heaven as sovereigns Lord and God, yet these people STILL play the shell games, using out of context scripture to interpret scripture.
One more error in your thinking, “the rock” was the faith based revelation of the Father, in the hearts of the apostles, regarding the identity of Jesus. God the Father validating God the Son; his divine Son incarnate in the person of Jesus.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,03:04) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:37) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14) No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity: The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
No you along with those brainwashed by the Trinity Doctrine miss the point.Look again. He never says he is God. They think he alluded to it. He reminds them of the usage of the word elohim/theos and how it applies to God's sons/counsel. He then finishes with saying that he is God's son. Even a child could follow that without concluding that Jesus was claiming to be God. Problem is, when you believe that he is God, then you take verses like that to support your view and are unable to see it for what it is. In other words you understanding is tainted.
Believing that Jesus is the son of God is what makes a person a true Believer in Jesus Christ, along with believing that he is the messiah. Jesus built his Church on these truths and the Gates of Hell will never prevail against it.
Not even if 99% of all religions believed in the Trinity would it prevail against the truth that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah.
You are either for him or against him. If you are for him, then you would believe his words. If you are against him, then you disagree with him.
And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity. The depth of self delusion and dishonesty among the anti God crowd is when they attempt to discredit the private instruction Jesus gave to the apostles about his identity as the Father incarnate.But the final crowning insult, that which relegates these rebels to a fringe laughing stock, is when Jesus returns to his eternal place in heaven as sovereigns Lord and God, yet these people STILL play the shell games, using out of context scripture to interpret scripture.
One more error in your thinking, “the rock” was the faith based revelation of the Father, in the hearts of the apostles, regarding the identity of Jesus. God the Father validating God the Son; his divine Son incarnate in the person of Jesus.
Colter
Not anti-God at all it is anti-gods crowd. You don't believe in ONE GODQuote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,04:04) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,03:04) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:37) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,00:14) No, you missed the point, those who heard him thought that he did ullude to his divinity: The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”
No you along with those brainwashed by the Trinity Doctrine miss the point.Look again. He never says he is God. They think he alluded to it. He reminds them of the usage of the word elohim/theos and how it applies to God's sons/counsel. He then finishes with saying that he is God's son. Even a child could follow that without concluding that Jesus was claiming to be God. Problem is, when you believe that he is God, then you take verses like that to support your view and are unable to see it for what it is. In other words you understanding is tainted.
Believing that Jesus is the son of God is what makes a person a true Believer in Jesus Christ, along with believing that he is the messiah. Jesus built his Church on these truths and the Gates of Hell will never prevail against it.
Not even if 99% of all religions believed in the Trinity would it prevail against the truth that Jesus is the son of God and the messiah.
You are either for him or against him. If you are for him, then you would believe his words. If you are against him, then you disagree with him.
And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity. The depth of self delusion and dishonesty among the anti God crowd is when they attempt to discredit the private instruction Jesus gave to the apostles about his identity as the Father incarnate.But the final crowning insult, that which relegates these rebels to a fringe laughing stock, is when Jesus returns to his eternal place in heaven as sovereigns Lord and God, yet these people STILL play the shell games, using out of context scripture to interpret scripture.
One more error in your thinking, “the rock” was the faith based revelation of the Father, in the hearts of the apostles, regarding the identity of Jesus. God the Father validating God the Son; his divine Son incarnate in the person of Jesus.
Colter
Not anti-God at all it is anti-gods crowd. You don't believe in ONE GOD
Yes, I do, they are all ONE in will. God is spirit. All of the many divine beings are one with the Father. Man can, if he will, become ONE with the Father, if he pursues the path ordained by the Father. The Paradise Creator Sons are the Fathers of their created universes, the grandchildren of the Trinity.Colter
People should read the Forward to the UB in order to understand the teachings in the papers on the Trinity.
Colter
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,04:17) Yes, I do, they are all ONE in will. God is spirit. All of the many divine beings are one with the Father. Man can, if he will, become ONE with the Father, if he pursues the path ordained by the Father. The Paradise Creator Sons are the Fathers of their created universes, the grandchildren of the Trinity. Colter
You don't believe in a SINGLE SOVEREIGN BEING who is GOD ALONE. I understand being “One in will” but that is not the same as ONE in NUMBER.There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD!
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,08:33) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,04:17) Yes, I do, they are all ONE in will. God is spirit. All of the many divine beings are one with the Father. Man can, if he will, become ONE with the Father, if he pursues the path ordained by the Father. The Paradise Creator Sons are the Fathers of their created universes, the grandchildren of the Trinity. Colter
You don't believe in a SINGLE SOVEREIGN BEING who is GOD ALONE. I understand being “One in will” but that is not the same as ONE in NUMBER.There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD!
Yes, actually I do, you just don't understand, the source of the Trinity is I AM.Explanation….. If you really want the truth:
1. The Philosophic Concept of the I AM
(1152.4) 105:1.1 Absolute primal causation in infinity the philosophers of the universes attribute to the Universal Father functioning as the infinite, the eternal, and the absolute I AM.
(1152.5) 105:1.2 There are many elements of danger attendant upon the presentation to the mortal intellect of this idea of an infinite I AM since this concept is so remote from human experiential understanding as to involve serious distortion of meanings and misconception of values. Nevertheless, the philosophic concept of the I AM does afford finite beings some basis for an attempted approach to the partial comprehension of absolute origins and infinite destinies. But in all our attempts to elucidate the genesis and fruition of reality, let it be made clear that this concept of the I AM is, in all personality meanings and values, synonymous with the First Person of Deity, the Universal Father of all personalities. But this postulate of the I AM is not so clearly identifiable in undeified realms of universal reality.
(1152.6) 105:1.3 The I AM is the Infinite; the I AM is also infinity. From the sequential, time viewpoint, all reality has its origin in the infinite I AM, whose solitary existence in past infinite eternity must be a finite creature’s premier philosophic postulate. The concept of the I AM connotes unqualified infinity, the undifferentiated reality of all that could ever be in all of an infinite eternity.
(1153.1) 105:1.4 As an existential concept the I AM is neither deified nor undeified, neither actual nor potential, neither personal nor impersonal, neither static nor dynamic. No qualification can be applied to the Infinite except to state that the I AM is. The philosophic postulate of the I AM is one universe concept which is somewhat more difficult of comprehension than that of the Unqualified Absolute.
(1153.2) 105:1.5 To the finite mind there simply must be a beginning, and though there never was a real beginning to reality, still there are certain source relationships which reality manifests to infinity. The prereality, primordial, eternity situation may be thought of something like this: At some infinitely distant, hypothetical, past-eternity moment, the I AM may be conceived as both thing and no thing, as both cause and effect, as both volition and response. At this hypothetical eternity moment there is no differentiation throughout all infinity. Infinity is filled by the Infinite; the Infinite encompasses infinity. This is the hypothetical static moment of eternity; actuals are still contained within their potentials, and potentials have not yet appeared within the infinity of the I AM. But even in this conjectured situation we must assume the existence of the possibility of self-will.
(1153.3) 105:1.6 Ever remember that man’s comprehension of the Universal Father is a personal experience. God, as your spiritual Father, is comprehensible to you and to all other mortals; but your experiential worshipful concept of the Universal Father must always be less than your philosophic postulate of the infinity of the First Source and Center, the I AM. When we speak of the Father, we mean God as he is understandable by his creatures both high and low, but there is much more of Deity which is not comprehensible to universe creatures. God, your Father and my Father, is that phase of the Infinite which we perceive in our personalities as an actual experiential reality, but the I AM ever remains as our hypothesis of all that we feel is unknowable of the First Source and Center. And even that hypothesis probably falls far short of the unfathomed infinity of original reality.
(1153.4) 105:1.7 The universe of universes, with its innumerable host of inhabiting personalities, is a vast and complex organism, but the First Source and Center is infinitely more complex than the universes and personalities which have become real in response to his willful mandates. When you stand in awe of the magnitude of the master universe, pause to consider that even this inconceivable creation can be no more than a partial revelation of the Infinite.
(1153.5) 105:1.8 Infinity is indeed remote from the experience level of mortal comprehension, but even in this age on Urantia your concepts of infinity are growing, and they will continue to grow throughout your endless careers stretching onward into future eternity. Unqualified infinity is meaningless to the finite creature, but infinity is capable of self-limitation and is susceptible of reality expression to all levels of universe existences. And the face which the Infinite turns toward all universe personalities is the face of a Father, the Universal Father of love.
Colter
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 18 2013,12:28) Jesus was being literal there are no other gods that are actually God. The difference is this, you said Jesuswas referred to as a god in at least 4 instances right? but the fact is Jesus says: John 8:28
Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.
And? I don't claim that Jesus is the Father, who alone is the MOST HIGH god.But Jesus, Satan, angels, and demons are all called gods in scripture. I choose to BELIEVE those scriptures as they were written. It's up to you whether or not you believe them.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 18 2013,19:31) The lame reasoning of the anti-pre existence, anti-divinity, anti-Jesus is a God crowd, imply that EVERYONE has misunderstood Jesus, his enemies who heard him, the Sanhedrin spies who followed him, the apostles and countless Christians, theologians and martyrs. Only a small group of overanylizing intellectuals can so clearly see what no one else can….
Jesus claimed to be the Son of the Most High God, Jehovah. His apostles and disciples claimed the same in scripture.What's to argue about? I believe that Jesus is the Son OF the Most High God………… don't you?
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 18 2013,20:38) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,15:57) My family is fine thank you……….
Great, I am glad he is okay.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 18 2013,21:18) Jesus is answering the blasphemy charge, he's not denying that he is in fact the Son of God.
Nor do we deny it.Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,03:43) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,17:29) The Son of Man existed with the heavenly Father before this word was, but you do not believe that.
Rubbish.
If you change “word” to “world”, then Colter's claim is not only scriptural, but exactly what Jesus said in John 17:5.He existed with much glory alongside his God and our God before the world began.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,05:51) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41)
I agree that Jesus existed with divine nature/in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, served God, died for humanity, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of God in the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.
I did not know you thought that, it simply did not occur to me that anyone would believe that yet not realize that Jesus is a personification of the Father; God.
I also believe Jesus existed in the form of God before being made in the likeness of a human being. I believe he was later exalted by his and our God to an even higher place than the one he left to be made flesh.But I'm not sure why you think believing these scriptural truths would somehow cause us to think that the Son OF God IS the very God he is the Son OF.
Even after God exalted him to the highest possible position, Jesus remains the Messiah, Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest and Lamb OF God, Colter.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,05:51) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41) When Stephen was stoned to death, he looked up and saw Jesus at the right hand of God. He didn't see Jesus as God, or three persons as God.
………..you expect a lot from a guy being stoned to death.
Huh? Why would we NOT take Stephen's testimony into consideration?
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,10:04) And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity.
We don't deny that Jesus was divine, Colter. Angels are also said to be divine in scripture. And even we have the chance to partake in divinity, right?It seems you are arguing against us about things on which we agree.
Our only difference is that we don't believe Jesus actually IS the very God he is the Son OF. And you apparently DO believe this nonsensical notion.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,10:04) they attempt to discredit the private instruction Jesus gave to the apostles about his identity as the Father incarnate.
Show me the scripture in which Jesus told his apostles he was “the Father incarnate”.And then show me the scripture where any of those apostles taught us such a thing.
I don't believe there is a single book in the NT that doesn't clearly distinguish BETWEEN Jesus and his Father/God at least once.
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,11:13) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,10:04) And that’s just where Jesus publically alludes to his divinity.
We don't deny that Jesus was divine, Colter. Angels are also said to be divine in scripture. And even we have the chance to partake in divinity, right?It seems you are arguing against us about things on which we agree.
Our only difference is that we don't believe Jesus actually IS the very God he is the Son OF. And you apparently DO believe this nonsensical notion.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,10:04) they attempt to discredit the private instruction Jesus gave to the apostles about his identity as the Father incarnate.
Show me the scripture in which Jesus told his apostles he was “the Father incarnate”.And then show me the scripture where any of those apostles taught us such a thing.
I don't believe there is a single book in the NT that doesn't clearly distinguish BETWEEN Jesus and his Father/God at least once.
It is clearly there Mike but my experience has been that people from the JW sect or any denier group, perform an incredible self deception in mid flight. That is to say that when they read the accounts of Jesus claiming to be the personification of God the Father, their brain actually translates the words, definitions and meaning before it gets to the conscious perception part of their brain. The result is they hear something that Jesus didn't say. The reason is they still need the scripture to validate their unbelief. That way they maintain legitimacy, scriptural authority and a poker face when they act like the claims arent there. Low enformation prospects blindly follow this line of baloney.This is the actual answer and proof concerning Jesus' claim to be the Father, is and of at the same time:
The Father Revealed7 “If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and from now on you know Him and have seen Him.”
8 Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is sufficient for us.”
9 Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on My own authority; but the Father who dwells in Me does the works. 11 Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father in Me, or else believe Me for the sake of the works themselves[\COLOR].
But that's not what the denier cults hear, they have a slew of justifications that have been pounded into them. Weather born into the JW's or indoctrinated into their special way of disbelieving the scripture, the sheer numbers of other group members who disbelieve the same way shame each other into submission and then mission work. Insecure and unlearned people fall victim to the deniers unbelief.
Colter
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,11:03) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,05:51) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41)
I agree that Jesus existed with divine nature/in the form of God, emptied himself, came in the flesh, served God, died for humanity, rose from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of God in the glory that he had with the Father before the world began.
I did not know you thought that, it simply did not occur to me that anyone would believe that yet not realize that Jesus is a personification of the Father; God.
I also believe Jesus existed in the form of God before being made in the likeness of a human being. I believe he was later exalted by his and our God to an even higher place than the one he left to be made flesh.But I'm not sure why you think believing these scriptural truths would somehow cause us to think that the Son OF God IS the very God he is the Son OF.
Even after God exalted him to the highest possible position, Jesus remains the Messiah, Son, Servant, Prophet, Priest and Lamb OF God, Colter.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,05:51) Quote (t8 @ Aug. 19 2013,21:41) When Stephen was stoned to death, he looked up and saw Jesus at the right hand of God. He didn't see Jesus as God, or three persons as God.
………..you expect a lot from a guy being stoned to death.
Huh? Why would we NOT take Stephen's testimony into consideration?
Because the author is obveously taking creative liberties in recounting the story of Steven being stoned to death. In real life a person is curdled up in the fetal position trying to protect their head, not looking off into the sky proclaiming ” hey look there's God sitting in a chair and the not God Son sitting next to him” …..ok carry on with the stoning.Colter
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,10:43) And? I don't claim that Jesus is the Father, who alone is the MOST HIGH god. But Jesus, Satan, angels, and demons are all called gods in scripture. I choose to BELIEVE those scriptures as they were written. It's up to you whether or not you believe them.
Not ONLY THE MOST HIGH but THE ONLY TRUE GOD as JESUS said Himself and GOD ALMIGHTY declared Himself. God said:Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.I testify as a witness that there is no god but God, can you say the same?
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,09:56) Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 20 2013,08:33) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 20 2013,04:17) Yes, I do, they are all ONE in will. God is spirit. All of the many divine beings are one with the Father. Man can, if he will, become ONE with the Father, if he pursues the path ordained by the Father. The Paradise Creator Sons are the Fathers of their created universes, the grandchildren of the Trinity. Colter
You don't believe in a SINGLE SOVEREIGN BEING who is GOD ALONE. I understand being “One in will” but that is not the same as ONE in NUMBER.There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD!
Yes, actually I do, you just don't understand, the source of the Trinity is I AM.Explanation….. If you really want the truth:
1. The Philosophic Concept of the I AM
(1152.4) 105:1.1 Absolute primal causation in infinity the philosophers of the universes attribute to the Universal Father functioning as the infinite, the eternal, and the absolute I AM.
(1152.5) 105:1.2 There are many elements of danger attendant upon the presentation to the mortal intellect of this idea of an infinite I AM since this concept is so remote from human experiential understanding as to involve serious distortion of meanings and misconception of values. Nevertheless, the philosophic concept of the I AM does afford finite beings some basis for an attempted approach to the partial comprehension of absolute origins and infinite destinies. But in all our attempts to elucidate the genesis and fruition of reality, let it be made clear that this concept of the I AM is, in all personality meanings and values, synonymous with the First Person of Deity, the Universal Father of all personalities. But this postulate of the I AM is not so clearly identifiable in undeified realms of universal reality.
(1152.6) 105:1.3 The I AM is the Infinite; the I AM is also infinity. From the sequential, time viewpoint, all reality has its origin in the infinite I AM, whose solitary existence in past infinite eternity must be a finite creature’s premier philosophic postulate. The concept of the I AM connotes unqualified infinity, the undifferentiated reality of all that could ever be in all of an infinite eternity.
(1153.1) 105:1.4 As an existential concept the I AM is neither deified nor undeified, neither actual nor potential, neither personal nor impersonal, neither static nor dynamic. No qualification can be applied to the Infinite except to state that the I AM is. The philosophic postulate of the I AM is one universe concept which is somewhat more difficult of comprehension than that of the Unqualified Absolute.
(1153.2) 105:1.5 To the finite mind there simply must be a beginning, and though there never was a real beginning to reality, still there are certain source relationships which reality manifests to infinity. The prereality, primordial, eternity situation may be thought of something like this: At some infinitely distant, hypothetical, past-eternity moment, the I AM may be conceived as both thing and no thing, as both cause and effect, as both volition and response. At this hypothetical eternity moment there is no differentiation throughout all infinity. Infinity is filled by the Infinite; the Infinite encompasses infinity. This is the hypothetical static moment of eternity; actuals are still contained within their potentials, and potentials have not yet appeared within the infinity of the I AM. But even in this conjectured situation we must assume the existence of the possibility of self-will.
(1153.3) 105:1.6 Ever remember that man’s comprehension of the Universal Father is a personal experience. God, as your spiritual Father, is comprehensible to you and to all other mortals; but your experiential worshipful concept of the Universal Father must always be less than your philosophic postulate of the infinity of the First Source and Center, the I AM. When we speak of the Father, we mean God as he is understandable by his creatures both high and low, but there is much more of Deity which is not comprehensible to universe creatures. God, your Father and my Father, is that phase of the Infinite which we perceive in our personalities as an actual experiential reality, but the I AM ever remains as our hypothesis of all that we feel is unknowable of the First Source and Center. And even that hypothesis probably falls far short of the unfathomed infinity of original reality.
(1153.4) 105:1.7 The universe of universes, with its innumerable host of inhabiting personalities, is a vast and complex organism, but the First Source and Center is infinitely more complex than the universes and personalities which have become real in response to his willful mandates. When you stand in awe of the magnitude of the master universe, pause to consider that even this inconceivable creation can be no more than a partial revelation of the Infinite.
(1153.5) 105:1.8 Infinity is indeed remote from the experience level of mortal comprehension, but even in this age on Urantia your concepts of infinity are growing, and they will continue to grow throughout your endless careers stretching onward into future eternity. Unqualified infinity is meaningless to the finite creature, but infinity is capable of self-limitation and is susceptible of reality expression to all levels of universe existences. And the face which the Infinite turns toward all universe personalities is the face of a Father, the Universal Father of love.
Colter
You see my point you don't believe if you did why would you say the source of the trinity is I AM? I'm asking you why is it you are not Worshiping the SOURCE?You even say there is something greater than the trinity an I am saying if that source isa SINGLE BEING then ALL PRAISE is dueto that SINGLE BEING because as you even admit the SINGLE BEING is THE SOURCE which would be the ONLY TRUE GOD because that source is GOD ABSOLUTE which transcends the term “Father”
There would be no feasible reason to believe in any type of trinity when you have concluded that the SOURCE of ALL is a SINGULAR POINT i.e. MOST HIGH.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,19:16) He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? 10 Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father in Me?
So you are really arguing for a “Urantia ONENESS doctrine” then, and NOT for a “Urantia TRINITY doctrine”, right?The trinity doctrine says Jesus is ONE of the PERSONS in the Godhead. And Trinitarians don't use John 14:9 as a “proof text”, because they don't claim that Jesus actually IS the Father.
So tell me where your “trinity” comes into play if you believe the Son actually IS the Father.
Quote (Colter @ Aug. 19 2013,19:21) Because the author is obveously taking creative liberties in recounting the story of Steven being stoned to death.
Is there a reason we shouldn't trust the words of Luke?Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 19 2013,19:24) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2013,10:43) And? I don't claim that Jesus is the Father, who alone is the MOST HIGH god. But Jesus, Satan, angels, and demons are all called gods in scripture. I choose to BELIEVE those scriptures as they were written. It's up to you whether or not you believe them.
Not ONLY THE MOST HIGH but THE ONLY TRUE GOD as JESUS said Himself and GOD ALMIGHTY declared Himself. God said:Isaiah 44:8
Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.I testify as a witness that there is no god but God, can you say the same?
Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no savior.Nehemiah 9:27
……..thou heardest them from heaven; and according to thy manifold mercies thou gavest them saviours, who saved them out of the hand of their enemies.
Asana, will you also testify that Jehovah is LITERALLY the ONLY savior who ever existed?And to answer your question, “NO”. I will not testify AGAINST the MANY scriptures that teach of many other gods.
What do you make of 2 Cor 4:4?
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