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Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2008,14:01) Hi GB,
So all are in the kingdom of God and His Christ now?
No need for a door?
What is this question you are asking Nick?
God was in full control of what Jesus had to do. Without God's pre-plan nothing could have taken place in the life of Jesus. What is this door you repeatedly quote, there is no door without pre-plan of God the Almighty.
Take care
AdamHi GM,
There is only the mercy of God outside of the way of Jesus.
Gambling that that mercy is given to all is unwise.
Heb4Hi,
Amazing how easily men are drawn off the path of truth into fantasy.
Universalism is such a fabrication.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2008,12:57) Hi ,
The gospel of Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God is anathema to universalism.
Who needs a gospel when it is all fixed up behind the scenes?
In your dreams.
Nick.
Still no answer to the question? I don't know how you get your doctine, it sure isn't from scripture!
I'll ask the question again: Show me the scripture that says “Jesus' teaching was also for the gentiles (nations)?
I'm sure you'll come up with another witty comment, but no answer.Blessings.
Quote (chosenone @ June 27 2008,05:14) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2008,12:57) Hi ,
The gospel of Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God is anathema to universalism.
Who needs a gospel when it is all fixed up behind the scenes?
In your dreams.
Nick.
Still no answer to the question? I don't know how you get your doctine, it sure isn't from scripture!
I'll ask the question again: Show me the scripture that says “Jesus' teaching was also for the gentiles (nations)?
I'm sure you'll come up with another witty comment, but no answer.
Blessings.
See John the 10th ChapterHi CO,
Jesus preached and taught.
He taught the Jews about the kingdom but also about their law.
The law applies only to those who are under that law[rom]but the kingdom is open to all men.
Christ in Paul preached the gospel of Christ crucified and raised, to all, Jew and gentile,
and taught the reborn Jews about the place of the law in the new covenant
and taught the SAINTS about the deeper aspects of the kingdomNick……you say the law applies (ONLY) to those who are under that law, but the kingdom is open to all men. So this isn't true then? “the gentiles who have not the Law but (do) the things contained in them, show the (Law) of God written in there Heart (by) the Hand of God.
Hi GB,
What does scripture say?
The written law is for the Jews alone.
They were given that Law.Rom3
19Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.20Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
21But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Those without the law before Christ had no hope unless their behaviour was lawabiding by conscience.
Rom2
11For there is no respect of persons with God.12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;
13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
The written law is the reverse of the positive inner loving law that shopuld be in our hearts.
Now reborn of the Spirit the law of love is written on our hearts by that Spirit.Nick.
Where have you taken your dancing lessons? You continually dance around the “question” without being able to find a scripture that says “Jesus' teachings were also for the gentiles (nations). Only the “gospel of Nick” is where it appears, nowhere in scripture will you find this answer. I'm amazed that you keep teaching this false doctrine, scripturally nonexistant, yet you call the salvation of all mankind “heresy”, which is scripturally sound.
Please, PLEASE, answer the question or lose your already low credability!Blessings.
Hi CO,
Is Jesus not a light unto gentiles?
Matthew 12:18
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Matthew 12:21
And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
Luke 2:32
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.Same message.
Repentance unto lifeActs 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.Hi CO,
Every month or so we are offered a new gospel that can seemingly be entirely validated by the appropriate choice of scriptures. Yours carries little weight and we are advised to ditch them even if an angel comes knocking on the door. So thanks but no thanks.Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2008,13:56) Hi CO,
Is Jesus not a light unto gentiles?
Matthew 12:18
Behold my servant, whom I have chosen; my beloved, in whom my soul is well pleased: I will put my spirit upon him, and he shall shew judgment to the Gentiles.
Matthew 12:21
And in his name shall the Gentiles trust.
Luke 2:32
A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.Same message.
Repentance unto lifeActs 11:18
When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.
Nick.
Of course the Gentiles have been brought near to God by Israels rejection of their Messiah. This was prophesied in Isaiah 42:1-2… Behold My Servant! I am upholding Him. My chosen! Accepted by My sole! I bestow My Spirit upon Him, And He shall bring forth judgment to the narions.
Notice the similarity of Matt.12:18. This says nothing of Jesus' teaching to the nations, but that through their (Jews) rejection of their Messiah, God has tutned to the Nations. (Acts 13:46)
Nowhere in scripture does it say that Jesus' teaching is for the gentiles. In fact, it says just the opposite (Matt.15:24) (Ro.15:8) and others.
Therefore I have quoted scripture stating my view, and you cannot find scripture quoting your view, yet you insist that I have no basis concerning this. How strange.Blessings.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2008,14:08) Hi CO,
Every month or so we are offered a new gospel that can seemingly be entirely validated by the appropriate choice of scriptures. Yours carries little weight and we are advised to ditch them even if an angel comes knocking on the door. So thanks but no thanks.
Nick.
“…and we are advised to ditch them even if an angel comes knocking on the door.”Is this a quote from “The gospel of Nick”? I'll try and find this in scripture.
Blessings.
Hi brother Jerry,
One thing you have to remember is that Nick is the man running this site therefore his views are dominated everywhere in all threads. I have noticed that he will not learn any thing from anybody he only wants to negate others' views. That is so much frustrating for all of us.
Never mind
Adam
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