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  • #118060
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    They were gentiles
    Acts 10
    34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

    35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

    #118066
    chosenone
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    NH.
    By baptism they were united to the believing remnant in the nation of Israel, for the name used was the same. It is evident, however, that this was a loose union, for the fact of their uncircumcision would bar them from the temple and from everything which the disciples had in common with the Jewish nation. In practice, even the social communion was always on a most doubtful and hesitating basis. Many of the disciples never would have fellowship with the Uncircumcision, and even Peter himself, after boldly defending his course with Cornelius as well as the truth involved, was intimidated by the prevailing opposition, so that, at Antioch he first ate with the Uncircumcision and then withdrew and severed himself for fear of the party headed by James, the brother of the Lord (Ga.2:11-12) .

    Your welcome.

    #118068
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    You would not need these rationalisations if you could accept the simple truth.
    Jesus Christ is Lord of all.

    Acts 10:36
    The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)

    You need to respond to the call of God in Jesus.
    Acts 2:39
    For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.

    #118129
    chosenone
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    NH.
    “All is of God”. 2Cor.5:18-19 …18 Yet all is of God, Who conciliates us to Himself through Christ, and is giving us the dispensation of the conciliation,
    19 how that God was in Christ, conciliating the world to Himself, not reckoning their offenses to them, and placing in us the word of the conciliation.

    If you don't accept the teaching of scripture, but keep refering to what Jesus taught Israel, you are still under the “old covenant”. Wake up!!! We are not, and never were, under the “old covenant”. We are now under the covenant of “Grace”. Move on, you're stuck way back in time. Release yourself, your still under the “law”. Snap out of your dream!!!

    #118132
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    The letter you quote was written to the saved and that was not all men then and is not now.
    But you fondly hope your research shows God has an hidden amnesty planned?

    #118140
    chosenone
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    NH.
    Yes, to the saved. Do you not forbid the unsaved from hearing the message. Why are you excluding them?

    #118143
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    You preach all men will be saved from 1 Cor 15 but then seem to believe they must hear Paul before that time. Why is this?

    #118146
    chosenone
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    NH.
    These ARE Pauls epistles!!!

    #118149
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    Who is Paul in comparison with his Master?
    Paul cannot save anyone.

    #118157
    chosenone
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    NH.
    1Tim.4:9-11 …9 Faithful is the saying and worthy of all welcome
    10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind,
    11 especially of believers. These things be charging and teaching.

    “All is of God”.

    #118175
    NickHassan
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    CO,
    Indeed there is no other Saviour.

    #118213
    chosenone
    Participant

    Nh.
    Amen!

    #144174
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Jodi,
    I see you too believe in the popular modern fantasy that all will be saved

    #190789
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    False Universalism plagues sites where folks wish to learn truth

    #190864
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,09:58)
    Hi T,
    False Universalism plagues sites where folks wish to learn truth


    nick

    is there a true Universalism ??

    #190865
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    It is a magic fairytale that is clung to very firmly.

    #190922
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 14 2010,13:46)
    Hi T,
    It is a magic fairytale that is clung to very firmly.


    nick

    gene is stick to it

    #191057
    GeneBalthrop
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    Teraricca………….Yes I as well as Paul say if GOD can save a Wretch like me He can save everyone he chosen and wills to. It is you and Nick who are the ones limiting GOD and His Power to Save and you both on this subject a in Fairy Land , you both profess GOD but then deny His power to SAVE others hes so choses to save, not only that you desperately try to deny His spoke will in Scriptures and try to give is the impression GOD will IT but rally can't do it , and i this way you limit His Power to Save. I even doubt you (TRULY) Believe He (TRULY) SAVES YOU yourselves. If you can't trust He can save others then what makes you think he can save your either?. Self salvation does not work Terraricca and Nick. WE are saved by Grace and so is everyone else saved by that same process to. Stop trying to WEAKEN GOD by you false word. IMO

    peace and love………………………..gene

    #191061
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ May 16 2010,02:35)
    Teraricca………….Yes I as well as Paul say if GOD can save a Wretch like me He can save everyone he chosen and wills to. It is you and Nick who are the ones limiting GOD and His Power to Save and you both on this subject a in  Fairy Land , you both profess GOD but then deny His power to SAVE others hes so choses to save, not only that you desperately try to deny His spoke  will in Scriptures and try to give is the impression GOD will IT but rally can't do it , and i this way you limit His Power to Save. I even doubt you (TRULY) Believe He (TRULY) SAVES YOU yourselves. If you can't trust He can save others then what makes you think he can save your either?. Self salvation does not work Terraricca  and Nick. WE are saved by Grace and so is everyone else saved by that same process to. Stop trying to WEAKEN GOD by you false word. IMO

    peace and love………………………..gene


    gene

    do not implicate Paul who by his words does not support lies

    Paul truths are written ,so use his words if you find them.

    there is no support for you UNIVERSALISM in scriptures,this is only your personal views of the bible not the truth of God.

    #191078
    chosenone
    Participant

    terraricca.

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    there is no support for you UNIVERSALISM in scriptures,this is only your personal views of the bible not the truth of God.

    THE fancied difficulties arising from a belief in the universal reconciliation are nothing compared with the traditional beliefs about fate of the “non-elect” dead. The millions who never heard the evangel and had humanly speaking not the slightest opportunity to believe– what of them? What of the character of God Himself, Who seems unable to bring His creation into harmony with His will and heart? What of the work of Christ as compared with the success of the Adversary?
    There is no truth so potent as that of Colossians 1:20 … “and through Him (Christ) to reconcile all to Him (God) (making peace through the blood of His cross), through Him, whether those on the earth or those in the heavens”, in reaching those whom the traditional teaching has failed to touch. Nothing is so powerful in the case of the open infidel. Much of the gospel effort of today has lost its vitality and knows little of God’s sovereign grace. God grant that there may be a little reviving and that the recovery of these precious truths may rekindle the zeal of many, for the furtherance of the evangel!

    Some other scriptures you say don't exist.
    1Tim.4:9-11 …10 (for for this are we toiling and being reproached), that we rely on the living God, Who is the Saviour of all mankind, especially of believers.
    11 These things be charging and teaching.

    1Tim.2:3-4 …3 for this is ideal and welcome in the sight of our Saviour, God,
    4 Who wills that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth.

    In Isaiah.46:10 God says “All My desire wiil I do”. Do you disagree with His Word?

    Show some scriptures that say the opposite, that some will be eternally separated, or punished in Hell, or cease to exist.

    God Bless, Jerry.

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