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Hi CO,
You say
“Jesus was commisioned to the Jews only (Matt.15:24),”He was sent there with the one ETERNAL GOSPEL
The chosen people had the first opportunity to join the kingdom.
“had they accepted Him as their Messiah, they would have entered the kingdom with Christ as King. “
Prove it please.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,02:21) Irene……the Saints and Jesus will be ruling a Carnal world with Carnal laws , remember those people are not converted , only the Saints and Jesus are, all of God laws will be enforced including the Feast of Tabernacles it plainly says that. The temple will be rebuilt also. Here,s something interesting..> you remember the four living creatures around the throne of God, they Have four different faces One the face of a lion,one of a man,one of a eagle,one of a ox,
When the childern of Israel were in the wilderness they camped around the tabernacle a certian way, they were in four quadrants , with the twelve devided up into Four groups and the Four groups had three in each group, and the head of the each of the four groups were, the tribe of Ephriam (the ox) was their standard , the tribe of Judah (lion) was their standard, the tribe of Dan (the eagle) was their standard, the tribe of Ruben (man ) was their standard ,
they Positioned the standards at the four corners of the tabernacle east, west, north,south
and the moved in that order, whats also interesting is that the four creatures had three sets of wings, in orther words there were three sets , Ephriam, Manasha, Binjeman were on set with Ephriam as the head and I can't remember the tribes with Judah or Ruben and Dan right now. But the point is its interesting how the tabernacle in the wilderness had the same standards with the same faces as the throne of God in revelations.Here some more you read about that , Eze 1:5,6,13,14,15,19 and Eze 3:
interesting stuff………………gene
So you believe that the Jewish people will not be in the Millennium with Jesus? Then what about Rev.7:4-8 They are sealed and are the Servant to God and verse 9-16 read it all those are the ones that have their robes washed in the blood of the Lamb, who are the Saints.
I believe that God will use the Jewish People to finally do what He intened in the first place.
Romans 11:26-27 the Jewish people will be grafted in after the fullness of the Gentiles has come.
I believe what the word says in Rev. 7.
You have to remember that the Jewish People are God's People. Even tho they crucified our Lord Jesus. He still loves them inspite of their wrong doing. Otherwise it would not say so in Romans and in Rev. 7.
I do agree that all of Gods laws will be enforced and should we be so lucky to be there, we will keep the Feast etc.
Peace and Love IreneQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,06:55) Hi CO,
You say
“Jesus was commisioned to the Jews only (Matt.15:24),”He was sent there with the one ETERNAL GOSPEL
The chosen people had the first opportunity to join the kingdom.
“had they accepted Him as their Messiah, they would have entered the kingdom with Christ as King. “
Prove it please.
Nick.
Are you still on about this “one eternal gospel”? That you have no scripture proving this. I have shown you a number of times that “Pauls” teachings included an addition…”to complete the word of God”. I am not going to keep going around in cicles with you, if you refuse to believe scripture. Enough has been said on this subject, I will end this disscusion now, you will have to acknowldge scripture instead of bugging me!Blessings.
Hi,
1 Peter 5:9
Whom resist stedfast in the faith, knowing that the same afflictions are accomplished in your brethren that are in the world.
All men are not the brothers of Jesus or our brothers-scripturally.Quote (Irene @ July 03 2008,07:51) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,02:21) Irene……the Saints and Jesus will be ruling a Carnal world with Carnal laws , remember those people are not converted , only the Saints and Jesus are, all of God laws will be enforced including the Feast of Tabernacles it plainly says that. The temple will be rebuilt also. Here,s something interesting..> you remember the four living creatures around the throne of God, they Have four different faces One the face of a lion,one of a man,one of a eagle,one of a ox,
When the childern of Israel were in the wilderness they camped around the tabernacle a certian way, they were in four quadrants , with the twelve devided up into Four groups and the Four groups had three in each group, and the head of the each of the four groups were, the tribe of Ephriam (the ox) was their standard , the tribe of Judah (lion) was their standard, the tribe of Dan (the eagle) was their standard, the tribe of Ruben (man ) was their standard ,
they Positioned the standards at the four corners of the tabernacle east, west, north,south
and the moved in that order, whats also interesting is that the four creatures had three sets of wings, in orther words there were three sets , Ephriam, Manasha, Binjeman were on set with Ephriam as the head and I can't remember the tribes with Judah or Ruben and Dan right now. But the point is its interesting how the tabernacle in the wilderness had the same standards with the same faces as the throne of God in revelations.Here some more you read about that , Eze 1:5,6,13,14,15,19 and Eze 3:
interesting stuff………………gene
So you believe that the Jewish people will not be in the Millennium with Jesus? Then what about Rev.7:4-8 They are sealed and are the Servant to God and verse 9-16 read it all those are the ones that have their robes washed in the blood of the Lamb, who are the Saints.
I believe that God will use the Jewish People to finally do what He intened in the first place.
Romans 11:26-27 the Jewish people will be grafted in after the fullness of the Gentiles has come.
I believe what the word says in Rev. 7.
You have to remember that the Jewish People are God's People. Even tho they crucified our Lord Jesus. He still loves them inspite of their wrong doing. Otherwise it would not say so in Romans and in Rev. 7.
I do agree that all of Gods laws will be enforced and should we be so lucky to be there, we will keep the Feast etc.
Peace and Love Irene
Irene….Where did i ever say there won't be Jews in the Kingdom of Christ or for that matter there will even be Saints that are Jews , I don't where you got that from what i said.Peace and love ….gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,16:55) Quote (Irene @ July 03 2008,07:51) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 03 2008,02:21) Irene……the Saints and Jesus will be ruling a Carnal world with Carnal laws , remember those people are not converted , only the Saints and Jesus are, all of God laws will be enforced including the Feast of Tabernacles it plainly says that. The temple will be rebuilt also. Here,s something interesting..> you remember the four living creatures around the throne of God, they Have four different faces One the face of a lion,one of a man,one of a eagle,one of a ox,
When the childern of Israel were in the wilderness they camped around the tabernacle a certian way, they were in four quadrants , with the twelve devided up into Four groups and the Four groups had three in each group, and the head of the each of the four groups were, the tribe of Ephriam (the ox) was their standard , the tribe of Judah (lion) was their standard, the tribe of Dan (the eagle) was their standard, the tribe of Ruben (man ) was their standard ,
they Positioned the standards at the four corners of the tabernacle east, west, north,south
and the moved in that order, whats also interesting is that the four creatures had three sets of wings, in orther words there were three sets , Ephriam, Manasha, Binjeman were on set with Ephriam as the head and I can't remember the tribes with Judah or Ruben and Dan right now. But the point is its interesting how the tabernacle in the wilderness had the same standards with the same faces as the throne of God in revelations.Here some more you read about that , Eze 1:5,6,13,14,15,19 and Eze 3:
interesting stuff………………gene
So you believe that the Jewish people will not be in the Millennium with Jesus? Then what about Rev.7:4-8 They are sealed and are the Servant to God and verse 9-16 read it all those are the ones that have their robes washed in the blood of the Lamb, who are the Saints.
I believe that God will use the Jewish People to finally do what He intened in the first place.
Romans 11:26-27 the Jewish people will be grafted in after the fullness of the Gentiles has come.
I believe what the word says in Rev. 7.
You have to remember that the Jewish People are God's People. Even tho they crucified our Lord Jesus. He still loves them inspite of their wrong doing. Otherwise it would not say so in Romans and in Rev. 7.
I do agree that all of Gods laws will be enforced and should we be so lucky to be there, we will keep the Feast etc.
Peace and Love Irene
Irene….Where did i ever say there won't be Jews in the Kingdom of Christ or for that matter there will even be Saints that are Jews , I don't where you got that from what i said.Peace and love ….gene
Gen In your post you say that the Saints and Jesus will be ruling. The Jewish People are not as a whle considered Saints. Those are the ones that died as Jesus did. I believe most are Gentles, because remember the Jews crucfied Jesus.
IreneQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,09:07) Hi CO,
None can add to the message of God.
No, but Paul added to Jesus gospel, led by God.Quote (chosenone @ July 03 2008,18:11) Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 03 2008,09:07) Hi CO,
None can add to the message of God.
No, but Paul added to Jesus gospel, led by God.
What did Paul add?..seems to me like he simplified itHi DK,
Jesus opened the door to the kingdom and laid the groundwork.
Paul continued to usher in the saved and showed how to live life in the kingdom.Hi,
Lk4
18The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,19To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
No mention that this work was only for the Jews.
It is a universal message.Hi Gm,
Indeed Jesus initiated the preaching of the kingdom to the Jews in Israel.
God is faithful, but the message is UNIVERSALHi GM,
Universalism is not a religion that agrees that the gospel is for all men
but one that says all men will be saved even if there never was a gospel.
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