Trinitarians on the messenger of jehovah

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  • #150895
    NickHassan
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    Hi KAT,
    You say
    “Your spirit lives in your body, does that make and your spirit different than you ? No, your still ONE person.”

    But you tell us that the Spirit of God is another person from God???

    #150898
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    You say of Jesus Christ
    ” and he is the image of the invisable God, and all fulness dwells in Him “

    Indeed the fulness of DEITY DWELLS IN HIM so he is not that Deity and of course there is one God, the Father.
    And if he is the IMAGE of God then he is not that God whom he images.

    The answers to your confusion can be found in the very words you say.

    #150901
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    No Im saying God is spirit,like we all were a spirit. Our spirit came into a body.The same with God. Jesus is the exact image of the INVISABLE GOD. If we were all a spirit we could not be seen either until we were in a body. right? God came in the flesh (scripture clearly tells us that in John)to die for our sins. He knew what He was going to go threw all along, but He did it any way so we could have a Saviour. I dont think it sounds like very many have the relationship they are suppose to have with Christ, when without Him you have no eternal life. No other way for salvation. Its all over the bible.He is who we will spend eternity with. He is the creator. Matthew 5:8 tells us, Blessed are the pure in heart; fOR THEY SHALL SEE GOD! If He did not become flesh, how will we see Him than? I even quotted you scripture about Jesus saying; He will be our God and we will be His sons. Why does the bible tell us He(Emmanuel) is “God with us”. Why is He called The Almighty, Prince of Peace, our Heavenly Father. KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS? Matthew 15:8 (jESUS SAYING;)This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honour me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. I have probably quotted you a good 30 scriptures in the last week and you still look over them. We'll theres my answer again. God Bless!

    #150904
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    Is that scriptural or new age?
    Why don't you stop quoting scripture in support of your ideas and learn from it?

    #150929
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Its all scriptual and I showed you were, you are totally ignoring them, thats your own loss!!

    #150931
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    Scripture does not say that God is a binity or a trinity.[…….]
    God is the Father and God of Jesus.[Jn20.17]
    He should be yours too.

    #150986
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Nick maybe this will help you -The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:

    1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).

    2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun Elohim is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word Elohim and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for God, Elohim, definitely allows for the Trinity

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    #151073
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    Thank you admitting that the bible is not the source of your so called knowledge.
    Instead it comes from a gnostic source, the catholic communion.

    What you teach is not written.

    NO TRINITY
    NOT SEVERAL PERSONS IN A COMMUNITY GOD
    Wake up

    #151086
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    NO its what I already know and have been trying to tell you. I thought it was a better way of explaining it to you. And that post and I have gave you scripture showing you- but you seem to be so blind. How about we just stop posting to each other?

    #151119
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    Is it blindness to only accept only what scripture teaches?
    Is it sight to grasp what originated in the minds of men?
    You must be born again to see the kingdom of God.

    #151167
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I know that Nick! I am born again!

    #151223
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    So if you are reborn of the Spirit of God why do you prefer the ideas of men to those of God?

    #151322
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 17 2009,14:03)
    Nick maybe this will help you -The Trinity is one God existing in three Persons. Understand that this is not in any way suggesting three Gods. Keep in mind when studying this subject that the word “Trinity” is not found in Scripture. This is a term that is used to attempt to describe the triune God—three coexistent, co-eternal Persons who make up God. Of real importance is that the concept represented by the word “Trinity” does exist in Scripture. The following is what God’s Word says about the Trinity:

    1) There is one God (Deuteronomy 6:4; 1 Corinthians 8:4; Galatians 3:20; 1 Timothy 2:5).

    2) The Trinity consists of three Persons (Genesis 1:1, 26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8, 48:16, 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17, 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14). In Genesis 1:1, the Hebrew plural noun Elohim is used. In Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for “us” is used. The word Elohim and the pronoun “us” are plural forms, definitely referring in the Hebrew language to more than two. While this is not an explicit argument for the Trinity, it does denote the aspect of plurality in God. The Hebrew word for God, Elohim, definitely allows for the Trinity

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    How many persons are God?
    Does each of these persons have a will?

    #151331
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Boditharta- THANK YOU!!

    #151336
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Kaito………the word GOD is a Hebrew (UNI=PLURAL) WORD)………..It means (POWERS) The seven Spirits of GOD represent These POWER ATTRIBUTES They ALL represent (ONE) GOD. (UNI=PLURAL WORD) You have no proof that the word GOD means two, three, for or thousands. It is just a assumption there are three Gods, not found anywhere in any scripture, so why believe it or teach it then. IMO

    gene

    #151339
    bodhitharta
    Participant

    Quote (katjo @ Oct. 19 2009,11:19)
    Boditharta- THANK YOU!!


    So you do see that multiple wills would show plurality?

    #152105
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    How many times has someone said we do not believe in 3 Gods. You should know what the trinity is and know it does not mean 3 Gods, since you where a Catholic right? Were they worshipping 3 Gods? Scripture says with our own eyes shall we see God!!)huh)

    #152106
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi KAT,
    There is no trinity god or gods in scripture.
    But many choose to base their faith on catholic ideas rather than scripture

    #152118
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    That wouldnt be me than would it Nick! I have given plenty of scriptures! Try studying some of them.

    #152126
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi Kat,
    Which ones tell us Jesus was part of a trinity and sent himself to tell the world?
    Can you know your multiperson god?
    Does your trinity god love you?

    Thou shalt not have strange gods before me are the words of the one true God.

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