Translation of US into English

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    Stu
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    Perhaps an American speaker could help me with the expression “Carnival Barker” as used recently by your esteemed President.

    I gather that carnival barkers are people who attract attention to publicise events, but it must also be a metaphor for publicity seekers in general.

    Can anyone tell me how the expression is used commonly, or give examples of who else (apart from Donald Trump) might be accused of being one?

    Stuart

    #244849
    theodorej
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    Quote (Stu @ April 29 2011,16:43)
    Perhaps an American speaker could help me with the expression “Carnival Barker” as used recently by your esteemed President.

    I gather that carnival barkers are people who attract attention to publicise events, but it must also be a metaphor for publicity seekers in general.

    Can anyone tell me how the expression is used commonly, or give examples of who else (apart from Donald Trump) might be accused of being one?  

    Stuart


    Stu…. Carnival Barker is a dated expression used to identify the likes of a ringmaster or a snake oil salesmenn and in general any one who is peddling their wares by means of shouting or out shouting another …..(Ladies and Gentlemen and Kids of all ages)….It is funny that the usurper decided to represent a legitimate concern or question of his credentials with that of a circus….There is much contemp in his retort and on the other hand alot of questions still remain unanswered….

    #244870
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (theodorej @ April 30 2011,02:39)

    Quote (Stu @ April 29 2011,16:43)
    Perhaps an American speaker could help me with the expression “Carnival Barker” as used recently by your esteemed President.

    I gather that carnival barkers are people who attract attention to publicise events, but it must also be a metaphor for publicity seekers in general.

    Can anyone tell me how the expression is used commonly, or give examples of who else (apart from Donald Trump) might be accused of being one?  

    Stuart


    Stu…. Carnival Barker is a dated expression used to identify the likes of a ringmaster or a snake oil salesmenn and in general any one who is peddling their wares by means of shouting or out shouting another …..(Ladies and Gentlemen and Kids of all ages)….It is funny that the usurper decided to represent a legitimate concern or question of his credentials with that of a circus….There is much contemp in his retort and on the other hand alot of questions still remain unanswered….


    Thanks for that, theodorej. I thought it might have been considered a bit dated, and Ed filled me in on the tendency to use in a political context.

    Regarding its recent use, are you one of the birthers?

    Clearly he is American, unless you don't count Hawaii, but what relevance would it have to you even if the incumbent had not been born in the US but had been naturalised?

    Stuart

    #244880
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    It's a legal issue and a moral one if he lied that is.
    Apart from that, no difference.

    #245247
    princess
    Participant

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    birthers?

    Stuart, I am American, enjoy etymology, and cannot find the word nor its meaning, perhaps you could expand on 'birthers'.

    #245249
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Hi Princess,

    A “birther” is a member of the group of people currently trying to de-legitamize the Presidency of Barak Obama, claiming he is not a natural-born U.S. citizen. Our constitution states that no man can be President unless he was born on U.S. soil, which is why the Governator will never be the Presinator. :)

    mike

    #245255
    princess
    Participant

    Thank you Mike, for the information and the humor, much needed.

    Many parties are forming as of late to rally against the President, perhaps tis the reason why Bin Laden is where he is at, if he is there at all.

    Blessings Mike.

    #245262
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ May 04 2011,12:12)

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    birthers?

    Stuart, I am American, enjoy etymology, and cannot find the word nor its meaning, perhaps you could expand on 'birthers'.


    I didn't think I would have to explain American to an American…I thought it was me who was getting the lessons!

    But since you are royalty, perhaps you do not mix with the proletariate who are mangulating the language in these ways.

    Anyway, my impression is the same as Mike's.

    Did these birthers have a different opinion when W. was sworn in, even though Gore had won the election?

    Stuart

    #245326
    princess
    Participant

    Tis not surprising Stuart for another to teach me about this country.

    Re: Gore, I understand the re-count was deemed correct.

    See Stuart, 'wherever reasonable' kingdoms do still exists.

    Take care of yourself.

    #245335
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………

    Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)

    mike

    #245349
    Baker
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)
    Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………

    Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)

    mike


    Mike!

    1Cr 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman [is] the man; and the head of Christ [is] God.

    I for one would never vote for a woman….Peace Irene

    #245365
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)
    Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………

    Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)

    mike


    None taken at all Mike, however greatly appreciate the gesture.

    Take care.

    #245398
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)
    Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………

    Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)

    mike


    Didn't God create man, male and female?

    :)

    #245402
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Actually, He created the PERSON Adam as male. He created the SPECIES adam, male AND female.

    I believe I learned this from you t8. :)

    mike

    #245403
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ May 06 2011,13:02)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 05 2011,13:10)
    Correction:  Our constitution states that no man PERSON can be President unless he/SHE was born on U.S. soil………

    Sorry for the sexist slight.  It was merely a matter of habit and purely unintentional.  :)

    mike


    Didn't God create man, male and female?

    :)


    perhaps, humanity would better suit, or mankind re: creation.

    Why would the creator make man and woman? Oh, the man needed a mate, he was alone and it was not good for man to be alone. They can't live without us. Unless of course, you want to retreat to the roof of the house.

    #245418
    Stu
    Participant

    What is a god?

    Stuart

    #245421
    princess
    Participant

    Quote (Stu @ May 06 2011,16:58)
    What is a god?

    Stuart


    A person, place or thing that one holds above all else.

    #245427
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ May 06 2011,17:11)

    Quote (Stu @ May 06 2011,16:58)
    What is a god?

    Stuart


    A person, place or thing that one holds above all else.


    So a god can be whatever you want it to be. So why do people make truth claims for the christian god when anyone else can just deny the claim because they consider that the christian god is the vase on their breakfast table?

    Or the teapot in orbit around the sun.

    Stuart

    #245462
    princess
    Participant

    Yes Stuart, a god can be anything and in numbers. you surprise me with such questions.

    #245475
    Stu
    Participant

    Quote (princess @ May 07 2011,10:38)
    Yes Stuart, a god can be anything and in numbers. you surprise me with such questions.


    So if I worship my teapot, which is above all else, will you join me?

    If not, why not?

    Stuart

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