Titus 2:13, 14 Proof that Jesus is The Saviour!

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    mikeboll64
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    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?

    #255508
    Pastry
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    Hi All!  I haven't posted  at all on this tread, but have read most of the posts made here.  I observed that most stick to their believes.  Also that ]Keith, Jack and Kathi are all believing the same thing.
    Kathi believes in a half trinity, but will not admit it…Gives at times Scriptures that have nothing to do with the subject at hand.  Cant give a Scripture that states Almighty God and Jesus is Jehovah…. That is the most important fact that is wrong to me.  I also noticed that Shimmer and the princess made a post and all ignored them…. Sorry I find that wrong….
    Shimmers post said that She prayed to Almighty God through Jesus, which was so right, and that is also what I do….
    I also gave a Scripture that tells all that Jehovah God is Almighty Gods name, to no affect at all.  Even when I gave the Scripture in Ephesian 4:6 that the Father is above all, to no affect…

    Psa 83:18   That [men] may know that thou, whose name alone [is] JEHOVAH, [art] the most high over all the earth.  

    This Scripture plainly states that it is ALONE the name of the most high…..one person, and not two..

    Psa 68:4   Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name Jehovah, and rejoice before him.  

    This Scripture states it is HIS NAME,  and not their names…

    Then we come to the last post, about the Angels…. The sons of God who in Genesis married woman of men, and corrupted Gods way….Giants were on this earth then, and I believe that is what corrupted all mankind….by the Sons of God marrying daughters of man…

    Gen 6:1 ¶ And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,  

    Gen 6:2   That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

     Gen 6:3   And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

    Gen 6:4   There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.  

    Gen 6:5 ¶ And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.  

    Peace and Love Irene

    #255511
    KangarooJack
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    Pierre wrote:

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    so I have to take your word for it right?

    you really think that i am a sucker

    Pierre

    ps;big pictures do not scare me


    I gave you the scripture text which says that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men. Do angels marry women? I showed you that God was displeased with it and said, “My Spirit shall not always strive with man.”

    God called the sons of God “man.” The issue is that you won't take God's word for it. Do you believe the pagan myths that gods (or angels) came down from the heavens and inpregnated human women?

    KJ

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    Pastry
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    Jack!  

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    God called the sons of God “man.” The issue is that you won't take God's word for it. Do you believe the pagan myths that gods (or angels) came down from the heavens and inpregnated human women?


    It is no myth that the Sons of God married the woman of man… Scriptures are visible is my previous post….
    Irene

    #255515
    terraricca
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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 11 2011,13:32)
    Pierre wrote:

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    so I have to take your word for it right?

    you really think that i am a sucker

    Pierre

    ps;big pictures do not scare me


    I gave you the scripture text which says that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men. Do angels marry women? I showed you that God was displeased with it and said, “My Spirit shall not always strive with man.”

    God called the sons of God “man.” The issue is that you won't take God's word for it. Do you believe the pagan myths that gods (or angels) came down from the heavens and inpregnated human women?

    KJ


    KJ

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    I gave you the scripture text which says that the sons of God intermarried with the daughters of men. Do angels marry women? I showed you that God was displeased with it and said, “My Spirit shall not always strive with man.”

    if this is true then all man die sinse it is the soul of man that God gives to man to be a living man ,

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    God called the sons of God “man.” The issue is that you won't take God's word for it. Do you believe the pagan myths that gods (or angels) came down from the heavens and inpregnated human women?

    GEN;6;2 And it came to pass when men began to be numerous upon the earth, and daughters were born to them, 3 that the sons of God having seen the daughters of men that they were beautiful, took to themselves wives of all whom they chose. 4 And the Lord God said, My Spirit shall certainly not remain among these men for ever, because they are flesh, but their days shall be an hundred and twenty years. 5 Now the giants were upon the earth in those days; and after that when the sons of God were wont to go in to the daughters of men, they bore children to them, those were the giants of old, the men of renown.

    so you do not believe in scriptures do you ?
    in what else you do not believe ?

    Pierre

    #255531
    mikeboll64
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    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?  (Job 38:7)

    And why, if the sons of God were sons of Seth, did Moses distinguish them from the daughters of MAN?  Were not the sons of Seth also the sons of MAN?

    #255542
    Lightenup
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    Irene,
    What is a half trinity?? ???

    #255550
    Pastry
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    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,12:35)
    Irene,
    What is a half trinity?? ???


    Kathi! Look at what you believe??? You say Jehovah God is both Jesus and Almighty God, so Keith and Jack both agree with you…. It is because they believe in the trinity. The only thing you don't believe is that the Holy Spirit of God is not the third of Jehovah, but is the Spirit of God….that makes it a half trinity…my saying….not according to any Scriptures, just like you do with Jehovah….Irene

    #255553
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Irene,
    But don't you believe that Jehovah God is both God and Lord(adonai)? Do you believe Jehovah God is only God and not Lord (adonai)?

    Kathi

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    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,14:34)

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,12:35)
    Irene,
    What is a half trinity?? ???


    Kathi!  Look at what you believe???  You say Jehovah God is both Jesus and Almighty God, so Keith and Jack both agree with you…. It is because they believe in the trinity.  The only thing you don't believe is that the Holy Spirit of God is not the third of Jehovah, but is the Spirit of God….that makes it a half trinity…my saying….not according to any Scriptures, just like you do with Jehovah….Irene


    Looking for that blessed hope the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

    It's as plain as the nose on Georg's face.  :)

    Jack

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)
    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?


    Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring.

    KJ

    #255568
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,15:30)
    Irene,
    But don't you believe that Jehovah God is both God and Lord(adonai)?  Do you believe Jehovah God is only God and not Lord (adonai)?

    Kathi


    Kathi! No Jehovah God is alone Almighty Gods name.

    Psa 83:18 That [men] may know that thou, whose name alone [is] JEHOVAH, [art] the most high over all the earth.

    WHOSE NAME ALONE IS JEHOVAH ART THE MOST HIGH OVER ALL THE EARTH.

    Psa 68:4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name Jehovah, and rejoice before him.

    HERE IT SAYS his name and rejoice before Him and not they…

    Yes He is LORD OF LORDS AND NOT Lord of Lords…

    But Scripture says that it is ALONE His name….Irene

    #255569
    Pastry
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 11 2011,20:25)

    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,14:34)

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 11 2011,12:35)
    Irene,
    What is a half trinity?? ???


    Kathi!  Look at what you believe???  You say Jehovah God is both Jesus and Almighty God, so Keith and Jack both agree with you…. It is because they believe in the trinity.  The only thing you don't believe is that the Holy Spirit of God is not the third of Jehovah, but is the Spirit of God….that makes it a half trinity…my saying….not according to any Scriptures, just like you do with Jehovah….Irene


    Looking for that blessed hope the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ.

    It's as plain as the nose on Georg's face.  :)

    Jack


    No Jack it is not clear at all…. It is clear that Jehovah is Almighty God and not Jesus too. Look at Kathi's previous post I explain and give Scripture to that affect…..The Scripture that you gave has nothing to do what Jehovah God is, and not only that it says the appearing of our God and Jesus Christ….. Jesus is called God Hebrew 1:8, but not Jehovah God….that name alone belongs to the high God….
    Scriptures do not contradict themselves….Irene

    #255584
    KangarooJack
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    Quote (Pastry @ Aug. 11 2011,06:51)
    Jack!  

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    God called the sons of God “man.” The issue is that you won't take God's word for it. Do you believe the pagan myths that gods (or angels) came down from the heavens and inpregnated human women?


    It is no myth that the Sons of God married the woman of man… Scriptures are visible is my previous post….
    Irene


    You did not read those scriptures carefully. Nor did you compare translations. Jesus said that angels do NOT marry. The sons of God married those women. The sons of God were the godly line of Seth. Christ was ordained to come through Seth's line but they corrupted the line by intermarrying with the daughters of men (Cain).

    So God destroyed them all by the flood leaving only Noah and his family to remain purging Seth's line so the Christ could come.

    Furthermore, your pagan view makes God unjust for wiping out all mankind for the sinful acts of angels. How could you possibly believe that God would punish all mankind by wiping them out for something they didn't do? The sons of God sinned and God replied saying, “My Spirit shall not always strive with MAN.” Therefore, they were men.

    btw, the word “giants” in the KJV is pagan. The word “nephilim” simply means “renowned.” Where is the archaeological evidence that a whole race of giant men ever existed?

    This is the problem with you anti-trins. You believe pagan myths. If I discovered that my wife was posting such gross pagan ideas I would take an ax to her cmputer!

    Jack

    #255591
    terraricca
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    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 12 2011,03:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)
    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?


    Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring.

    KJ


    KJ

    yes they do leave there level to go and corrupt themselves
    with what they should not,

    now men should not mixed with animals for the same reasons but some do and so lower themselves to the level of beast,

    we talking of corrupt beings angels or men.

    Pierre

    #255593
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Irene,
    Jesus is the LORD OF LORDS.

    Revelation 19:16 KJV
    And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written , KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

    God bless,
    Kathi

    #255595
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,12:49)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 12 2011,03:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)
    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?


    Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring.

    KJ


    KJ

    yes they do leave there level to go and corrupt themselves
    with what they should not,

    now men should not mixed with animals for the same reasons but some do and so lower themselves to the level of beast,

    we talking of corrupt beings angels or men.

    Pierre


    kj

    2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
    2Pe 2:5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

    Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

    #255596
    KangarooJack
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,05:49)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 12 2011,03:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)
    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?


    Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring.

    KJ


    KJ

    yes they do leave there level to go and corrupt themselves
    with what they should not,

    now men should not mixed with animals for the same reasons but some do and so lower themselves to the level of beast,

    we talking of corrupt beings angels or men.

    Pierre


    Pierre,

    Your post makes no sense. I can only tell you the truth. Jesus said that angels do NOT marry. The sons of God married. Therefore, they were NOT angels.

    God is just. He could not destroy all mankind from the earth with a flood for something the angels did.

    The sons of God were the godly line of Seth through which the Christ was to come. They corrupted the line by intermarrying with the daughters of men (Cain). So God wiped out all mankind leaving only Noah and his family thus purging Seth's line so the Christ could come.

    God is just. It was MAN that sinned and it was MAN He punished. “My Spirit shall not always strive with MAN.” If it was angels that sinned He would have ssaid, “My Spirit shall not always strive with angels.”

    Why are anti-trins so gullible?

    KJ

    #255597
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 12 2011,13:42)
    Irene,
    Jesus is the LORD OF LORDS.

    Revelation 19:16 KJV
    And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written , KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

    God bless,
    Kathi


    Kathi

    you right he is but just one step lower than the father his God

    because his father is the God above the gods and the LORD ABOVE ALL LORDS INCLUDING HIS SON ,

    HAVE A GREAT DAY

    Pierre

    #255598
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ Aug. 12 2011,14:09)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 12 2011,05:49)

    Quote (Kangaroo Jack Jr. @ Aug. 12 2011,03:27)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 10 2011,12:48)
    Jack,

    Who were the sons of God that shouted for joy when God laid the foundations of the earth?


    Some translations simply say “mighty ones.” Angels do not marry human women and beget offspring.

    KJ


    KJ

    yes they do leave there level to go and corrupt themselves
    with what they should not,

    now men should not mixed with animals for the same reasons but some do and so lower themselves to the level of beast,

    we talking of corrupt beings angels or men.

    Pierre


    Pierre,

    Your post makes no sense. I can only tell you the truth. Jesus said that angels do NOT marry. The sons of God married. Therefore, they were NOT angels.

    God is just. He could not destroy all mankind from the earth with a flood for something the angels did.

    The sons of God were the godly line of Seth through which the Christ was to come. They corrupted the line by intermarrying with the daughters of men (Cain). So God wiped out all mankind leaving only Noah and his family thus purging Seth's line so the Christ could come.

    God is just. It was MAN that sinned and it was MAN He punished. “My Spirit shall not always strive with MAN.” If it was angels that sinned He would have ssaid, “My Spirit shall not always strive with angels.”

    Why are anti-trins so gullible?

    KJ


    kj

    2Pe 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
    2Pe 2:5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;

    Jude 1:6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their own home—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

    why is it that trinity guys are always standing away from scriptures ?

    because they do not believe the truth and so make their own story to tell, :D  :D

    they(trini,s) believe in their own false story,

    Pierre

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