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NH……….Salvation is not an offer, it is a work of GOD, but man wants to be the author of his destiny through his own so-called (FREE WILL). pure foolishness of prideful man. “FOR YOU ARE CREATED UNTO GOOD WORKS”, and there is (ONLY ONE) Creator. When is vain puffed up man going to understand “For you are saved BY GRACE and that Not of yourselves lest any should boast, It is a (GIFT OF GOD), not as the self willed puffed up pride of men want it to be. Pride makes man focus on himself and his own achievements, rather than GOD and His POWER to SAVE.
peace and love……………………….gene
Quote (chosenone @ July 11 2009,07:07) Every Knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess… God will save all His creation.
Isaiah 46:10 And all my desire will I do. (God )
Chosenone………..you have rightly presented it. Don't get discouraged by ignorant and unlearned men whose Pride and self wills consume their thoughts. God will definitely preform all His desires on All.Peace and love to you and yours Jerry……………..gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 11 2009,07:22) Hi CO,
Really?
The whole salvation offer was a myth?
NH.
You deny scripture? Shame!NH………..cant you just address subject matter instead of personal insults, is that all you can do is to try to people down. I agree with Chosenone, YOU DENY SCRIPTURE? SHAME.
NH………Haven't you learned yet that repentance is given by GOD HIMSELF and is not a work of MAN. This may help you ” No man can come unto me except the FATHER (DRAW) Him. You should not give (MAN) THE CREDIT FOR REPENTANCE. “For God (WORKS) in us (BOTH) to WILL and DO of His good Pleasure”. What part of that don't you understand. “For we are saved by (GRACE) and that Not of OURSELVES, it is a GIFT from GOD. Give glory to whom Glory is due< Not Mans so-called (Free Will Repentance).
peace and love…………………..gene
Gene, Right on… some still regard Jesus (the promised Messiah of the Jews) teachings, while still under the 'law' and the 'old covenant', given to Israel only, as somehow relevant to all today and must follow.
Today, under the covenant of ” the Grace of God”, we are looked upon by God as “justified” (2Cor.9:18-19). What an insult to God and His Son, who suffered a painfull, tortureous, death, paying our just reward for sin, and ignoring what this sacrifice accomlished, and still repenting for their sins. How pride in ones self can get in the way of the truth of God, is truely amazing.Blessings.
Chosenone……….The carnal mind will not let go of it's self-righteousness it is the (PRIDE OF LIFE) mentioned by John. They boast in (THEIR) (REPENTANCE) by their (OWN) so-called (FREE WILL CHOICES), and say it is a requirement before they can be saved never understanding it is GOD Himself the gives repentance. They do not believe the FATHER can get inside our minds and Hearts and guide our thoughts causing us to repent. These are thieves who are trying to steal GOD'S Glory and apply it to themselves, not excepting the GRACE of GOD. Grace (God's influencing on the heart) is the true cause of repentance. For He works in us (BOTH) to WILL and do of HIS good pleasure. They hate the thought of GOD (CREATING) Righteousness in us. IMO
peace and love to you and yours………………………..gene
Hi,
Rom 9
18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Rom 11
30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
25 As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved.
26 And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.
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