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- January 1, 2009 at 8:19 pm#116307NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
Scripture says that satan offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world. He is the god of this world and his attitudes and teachings are paramount here.1 John 2:15
Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.1 John 2:16
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.1 John 2:17
And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.1 John 3:1
Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.1 John 3:13
Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.1 John 4:4
Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.1 John 4:5
They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.Good news.
Jesus has overcome the world.
We should listen to him and not worldly teachers.January 1, 2009 at 8:43 pm#116310GeneBalthropParticipantNick……….listening to someone and not understanding his is useless.
love and peace to you……………….gene
January 1, 2009 at 10:48 pm#116322NickHassanParticipantGB,
You do have understanding??January 2, 2009 at 2:46 am#116333GeneBalthropParticipantNick………enough to know you lack a lot of it.
peace…………………..gene
January 2, 2009 at 3:03 am#116334NickHassanParticipantGB,
The world is of the evil one.
Stand up for the teachings of the holy one of God.January 2, 2009 at 4:06 am#116341GeneBalthropParticipantNick………Good advice when are you going to do that? you reject all the scripture posted and then say , stand up for the teaching of the holy one of GOD. Does hypocrisy ring a bell. You don't answer posted scriptures hardly at all as far as i , and some other can tell. Think Chosenone is still waiting for some answers.
A novice like yourself shouldn't be giving people scriptural advise when you can't even answer posted scriptures. IMO
love and peace to you Nick………………….gene
January 2, 2009 at 4:16 am#116345NickHassanParticipantGb,
Should you boast of your expertise when Socrates is your teacher?January 2, 2009 at 4:37 am#116347GeneBalthropParticipantNick………..your true nature is showing , Show me where Socrates disagrees with Jesus on the Point of CAUSE and EFFECT. In fact he agree with Jesus completely on that subject. You shouldn't let your jealousy of other people like Socrates and Newton and others cause so much trouble maybe something worth you praying about. I have learned a lot form many different people and situations, i don't limit my self to schizophrenia and phobia by a state of FEAR. Of failure like you do Nick, if i fail i get up and ask God to forgive me and heal me and give me strength to overcome my problem and He has never fail me yet. So you do it your way through the medium of FEAR and I will do it my WAY through FAITH. Because i have (NOT) received the spirit to FEAR but of POWER and a SOUND MIND> AS Scripture says we recieve.
love and peace to you………………………..gene
January 2, 2009 at 4:51 am#116350NickHassanParticipantHi,
The world loves it's own.
Better to come outside the walls with the suffering servant.January 2, 2009 at 5:28 am#116360TiffanyParticipantGen and Nick! You are both getting ridiculous with getting on each others throat. You are Christians? Come on you both know better. Even if you use Scripture Nick you are still accusing. Please stop it it is not befitting you.
Peace and Love IreneJanuary 2, 2009 at 6:57 am#116373NickHassanParticipantHi Irene,
Would you not like to join in the defence of the Word of God?
These merchants of error attack every facet of faith and we should expose them.January 2, 2009 at 6:03 pm#116393GeneBalthropParticipantIrene ………its garbage like that that has caused the errors in understanding in the first place. And who ever disagrees with them is a merchant of error and a destroyer of Faith thats built on fear mongering, and misunderstood Scriptures. We are told to Grow in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE, not stay stagnate on Milk , A Novices should be quite and learn instead of foaming out all kinds of false statements and misquoting what people say or imply. In my opinion people like that are enemies of Christ they imped Growth in the body of Christ.
Just like it says , people of the bond women always attack those of the FREE women. Fear mongers are always the attackers, Just look at history of the false church and you can plainly see that. So it no surprise if their children do the same. They can't support their points with Scriptures so they start personal attacks, but what does scripture say “Cast out the bond women with her seed, for the seed of the bond women shall not have part with the seed of the Free Women.” .
love and peace to you and Georg…………………….gene
January 2, 2009 at 7:36 pm#116404NickHassanParticipantGb,
Free from the Lordship of Jesus/
Cut off from the head?January 2, 2009 at 8:14 pm#116408TiffanyParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 03 2009,05:03) Irene ………its garbage like that that has caused the errors in understanding in the first place. And who ever disagrees with them is a merchant of error and a destroyer of Faith thats built on fear mongering, and misunderstood Scriptures. We are told to Grow in GRACE and KNOWLEDGE, not stay stagnate on Milk , A Novices should be quite and learn instead of foaming out all kinds of false statements and misquoting what people say or imply. In my opinion people like that are enemies of Christ they imped Growth in the body of Christ. Just like it says , people of the bond women always attack those of the FREE women. Fear mongers are always the attackers, Just look at history of the false church and you can plainly see that. So it no surprise if their children do the same. They can't support their points with Scriptures so they start personal attacks, but what does scripture say “Cast out the bond women with her seed, for the seed of the bond women shall not have part with the seed of the Free Women.” .
love and peace to you and Georg…………………….gene
Accusing Brethren even with Scripture to me is a cop-out. It is not at all exact-able to me and wrong. Pick on someone else I am not game.
Irene
P.S. How does anybody know how much the other is growing, not from the little inter-action we are doing here. When I read in most post's it is always Gen who has something bad to say about somebody else. Bad choice.IMOFebruary 2, 2009 at 8:23 pm#120039NickHassanParticipantHi,
We bring the light and joy of Christ into a darkened and fearful world.February 2, 2009 at 9:44 pm#120046meerkatParticipantGene,
Nick is baiting you, and you rise to the challenge.
I agree with you Irene – this back and forth arguing is not about showing Gods love and learning it is about trying to use scripture to support views – IMO Nick is doing the baiting and you Gene is trying to defend, however in your desire to defend your views you can resort to attacking (because Nick does it to you) from what I can see it is not working – Gene, it is a no win situation because Nick is NOT listening to you.
Nick,
I personally do not see light and joy in some of your posts.
February 2, 2009 at 9:47 pm#120047NickHassanParticipantHi MK,
Servants serve.
False teachings are our duty to oppose.Ephesians 5:11
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.February 2, 2009 at 9:59 pm#120051meerkatParticipantHowever Nick,
From what I can see you seem to have YOUR theology all worked out as “the truth” and appear to think that all others are in various stages of deception – all you seem to do is quote scripture quite often taken out of context to support your beliefs and then say THUS SAITH THE LORD. Anyone who does not agree with your beliefs is then labelled a false teacher.
February 2, 2009 at 10:01 pm#120053NickHassanParticipantHi MK,
What theology?
Theology is a weak human measure.
Servants present the Word of God which is the wisdom of God[lk11].February 2, 2009 at 11:38 pm#120068meerkatParticipantNicks theology
God created the universe – An angel called Satan rebelled and took one third of the angels with him – has also taken Adam and all of his progeny with him – God is now on the back foot and sent Christ to salvage as many of Adams sons as he could, before God destroys all creation (even those that never even heard of Christ)
You need to believe and definitely be baptised, then you are assured of salvation before “armegdon”.
in adam, all die – only those in christ will be made alive.
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