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THE WORD SPIRIT:
God is a spirit,and all spirit *creatures* have part of God's
spirit. The Holy spirit is God's spirit;a force/power.
Truth is power.
There are spirits, as *creatures*,such as the angels.
There are evil angels, the ones that have abandoned God,
with a spirit body.(they are creatures).There are evil spirits,they are the dead hybrids during
the flood,their souls are not accepted in heaven.Because they are half fallen angel; and fallen angels have been banned from heaven. God calls the hybrids; the bastards.
(book of enoch).The fallen angels see them as inferior
to them.They consist of lying spirits,familiar spirits,unclean spirits,
deaf and dumb spirits,troublesome spirits.They have no body,
but can appear as anything for a short time only.
They can also reside inside a person.And there is the spirit of man.
The spirit of man is all the desires of the flesh/material.
Lust of the flesh,greed,pride,selfishness,power.
Mankind have been subjected to evil angels and evil spirits.
Man can only resist those spirits by adopting God's spirit.
Change the mind frequency of the world, to the mind frequency of God.Come out of babylon.One will be resurrected and given a *spirit body* according to the spirit of God in us. Some have absorbed God's spirit
more than others. Depending on how much one has eaten of the flesh of Christ. One will be resurrected brighter than others.Man can be overpowered by their hobbies,such as the spirit of sport,fun,lust,gambling etc.
The spirit of disobedience,the spirit of rebellion.The word spirit is not to be interpreted as one.
Because there are many kinds of spirits.wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 03 2013,20:22) That is JW or Herbert Armstrong doctrine usually.
2Besee.Jw or not is not the problem,I dont care.
The holy is the spirit of truth.
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
John 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
John 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
John 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
John 16:11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.
John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
John 16:14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
wakeup.
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 04 2013,10:16) Wakeup, “HE”.
2besee.HE, because he is alive and powerful.
We can not address the Holy spirit as IT.
That would be blasphemous.wakeup.
Quote HE, because he is alive and powerful.
We can not address the Holy spirit as IT.
That would be blasphemous.wakeup.
The only reason “he” and “him” are used here is because of the NT Greek requirement of gender agreement. That is, if the noun to which the pronoun refers is masculine in the Greek, the pronoun must also be masculine in the Greek. This is basic knowledge in NT Greek (and many other languages).
Since paraclete, παράκλητος, is the noun (‘comforter,’ ‘helper’ ‘advocate’) and is in the masculine gender, “he” and “him” are the pronouns which must be used with it for grammatical reasons. People and things have been called paraclete in Greek.
More important is the gender of ‘holy spirit’ itself. It is neuter and pronouns referring directly to it must also be neuter (‘which,’ ‘it,’ ‘itself’).
For example, notice how Trinitarian translators almost universally mistranslate John 14:17:
17 “Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.”
All the words in bold above are ‘translations’ of NEUTER NT Greek pronouns.
“the” is the neuter to, ‘whom’ is the neuter o (‘which’), ‘him’ is the neuter auto (‘it’).http://studybible.info/search/ACVI/john%2014:17 " class="bbcode-link"> http://studybible.info/search/ACVI/john%2014:17
“In the New Testament …. The Holy Spirit is conceived as an impersonal power by which God effects his will through Christ.” – p. 34, An Encyclopedia of Religion, V. Ferm, ed.
“It is important to realize that for the first Christians the Spirit was thought of in terms of divine power.” – New Bible Dictionary, p. 1139, Tyndale House Publishers (trinitarian), 1984.
“The doctrine of the Holy Spirit is a distinctly Christian one…. the spirit of Jehovah [in the OT] is the active divine principle in nature. …. But it is in the New Testament that we find the bases of the doctrine of the Spirit’s personality…. Yet the early Church did not forthwith attain to a complete doctrine; nor was it, in fact, until after the essential divinity of Jesus had received full ecclesiastical sanction [in 325 A.D.] that the personality of the Spirit was explicitly recognized, and the doctrine of the Trinity formulated…. It is better to regard the Spirit as the agency which, proceeding from the Father and the Son, dwells in the church as the witness and power of the life therein.” – Vol. 14, p. 326, “Holy Ghost,” Encyclopedia Americana, 1957.
“The emergence of Trinitarian speculations in the early church theology led to great difficulties in the article about the Holy Spirit. For the being-as-person of the Holy Spirit, which is evident in the New Testament as divine power…could not be clearly grasped…. The Holy Spirit was viewed not as a personal figure but rather as a [/b]power” – The New Encyclopedia Britannica.(In Hebrew holy spirit is feminine which can also be understood to be neuter: Handbook of Biblical Hebrew, LaSor, p. 75, v. 2, 1979.
“α 1. The Hebrew, like all Semitic languages, recognizes only two genders in the noun, a masculine and a feminine. Inanimate objects and abstract ideas, which other languages sometimes indicate by the neuter, are regarded in Hebrew as masculine or feminine, more often the latter [feminine]”! – Gesenius’ Hebrew Grammar, p. 222, Oxford at the Clarendon Press, 1910. —Emphasis added. )
So, we can either take the feminine gender “spirit” in Hebrew to mean neuter (a thing), or we can take it literally to mean that “the trinity” has as its third “person” a Mother Goddess!
But how can we take the neuter holy spirit of the inspired Greek of the New Testament manuscripts and the feminine holy spirit of the inspired Hebrew of the Old Testament and insist that it is a person and that it should be interpreted as a person in the masculine gender?
Quote (2besee @ Nov. 04 2013,10:16) Wakeup, “HE”.
2Besee.John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send *him* unto you.
John 16:8 And when he is come, *he* will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for *he* shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever *he* shall hear, that shall *he* speak: and *he* will shew you things to come.
John 16:14 *He* shall glorify me: for *he* shall receive of mine, and shall show it unto you.
wakeup.
Or this link:
http://fdier.free.fr/Wescott_Hort_Interlinear.pdf " class="bbcode-link"> http://fdier.free.fr/Wescott_Hort_Interlinear.pdf
And go to the following site and slide down to “3rd person pronoun.” Notice what auto means: Neuter!
http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson16.htm " class="bbcode-link"> http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson16.htm
Quote (tigger2 @ Dec. 03 2013,08:39) http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson16.htm " class="bbcode-link"> http://www.ntgreek.net/lesson16.htm
Tigger2.HAVE YOU EVER READ THE BIBLE?
THERE IS A BOOK CALLED THE HOLY BIBLE.
NOT THE WATCHTOWER BUT BIBLE.
THERE IS A LOT YOU CAN LEARN FROM IT.
BUT SPIRITUAL KNOWLEDGE,IF IT'S YOUR CUP OF TEA.wakeup.
Hi WU,
You say
“And there is the spirit of man.
The spirit of man is all the desires of the flesh/material.
Lust of the flesh,greed,pride,selfishness,power.”You confuse the spirit of man with the lusts in his soul
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 23 2014,13:10) Hi WU,
You say
“And there is the spirit of man.
The spirit of man is all the desires of the flesh/material.
Lust of the flesh,greed,pride,selfishness,power.”You confuse the spirit of man with the lusts in his soul
Nick.The spirit of the flesh is evil continuously.
Man without God, will be selfish to please himself all along;
Without feeling any guilt.wakeup.
Hi WU,
I think you mean HEART
Genesis 6:5
And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.Nick…….This is right, well put, the Spirit of Man (his intellect) is very Good, it is the heart that scripture identifies this way, the heart is deceitful above all thing is desperately wicked , who can know it , I, the Lord, search the heart and I try the mind to give unto each person the result of his own doing.
peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 24 2014,02:34) Nick…….This is right, well put, the Spirit of Man (his intellect) is very Good, it is the heart that scripture identifies this way, the heart is deceitful above all thing is desperately wicked , who can know it , I, the Lord, search the heart and I try the mind to give unto each person the result of his own doing. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………..gene
Gene B.The condition of the mind is the spirit of man.
Every man has his own mind;his own desires.
All men have the lust of the flesh,which are not the same lust.
Some have the lust of getting rich. Some of getting power.
Some have the lust for sports;some for good times,and leisure;wich leads to death.wakeup.
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