The word is really the holyspirit

[JustAskin]

Dbf, is it possible for you to write anything without your feminist bend.

Please do not sin against the Holy Spirit by claiming it is a 'She'.

Simple, dbf, whatever you think of the Holy Spirit, just don't post it so as to draw others into your iniquity. Restrain yourself with conscience and you may be forgiven.

Moreover, noone else believes any of what you say on this matter…is that a clue to something?

[GeneBalthrop]

DBF……….I agree with JA on this Spirit is Simply one (INTELLECT) It has nothing to do with any gender at all. Why are you trying to force people to believe it is Feminine anyway. Are you trying to start a feminist movement here or in you mind does that give you some sense of power or what?. It simply is not important DBE no one CARES. IMO

peace and lvoe to you and yours……………………….gene

[Baker]

Quote (JustAskin @ Sep. 04 2010,23:54)

Dbf, is it possible for you to write anything without your feminist bend. Please do not sin against the Holy Spirit by claiming it is a 'She'. Simple, dbf, whatever you think of the Holy Spirit, just don't post it so as to draw others into your iniquity. Restrain yourself with conscience and you may be forgiven. Moreover, noone else believes any of what you say on this matter…is that a clue to something?

JA

The “Professor” is biased toward woman, I think this might be the reason; “””Being a blonde it is hard for me to remember the points I wanted to make days ago.””” from another post.

Georg

[Ed J]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:27)

We see that someone is trying to deceive: Before someone was trying to fool you by saying, the Holy Spirit (feminine) was God, the Father.

Hi DBF,

In another thread I said to you…

EL-Shaddia means: “the breasted one” and is translated into English as “God Almighty”.
Exodus [ [6:3] ] And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name
of God Almighty(EL-Shaddia), but by my name JEHOVAH(YHVH=63) was I not known to them.

            “EL-Shaddia”(63)  =  “YHVH”(63)

Exodus 6:3 is the first God's name is used in singular form and EL-Shaddia…
Illustrates the nurturing aspect of “Our Father”; rather than proving (to you) he is 'a chick'?
Theomatics(numbers relating to God) helps to line things up; better illustrating this point to 'you'! (Click here for more)

But this thread is about “The PROOF” that the “HolySpirit” is “The Word”!

                             “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter],
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:36)

For proof of Spirit Elohim see Genesis 1:2 where the Spirit is first seen and by definition is a feminine noun.  YHWH Elohim isn't seen until Gen 2:4.   Jesus the son of God is seen as the firstborn of all creation in Col 1:15.

Hi DBF,

You asked this in another thread as well, and here was my response to you…

Google search   …Spirit Gen.1:2…  (Click Here)

Forth one down (Click Here)

The Spirit of YHVH is YHVH himself…

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:27)

We see that someone is trying to deceive:

Hi DBF,

I have told you REPEATEDLY that the “HolySpirit” is “The Word”([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)!

John 1:1…
In the beginning was the Word,
and the Word was with God,
and the Word was God.

           English        ↔    Hebrew       ↔    Greek
     “Word of God”  ↔      “God”         ↔ “The Word”
“Word of God”(86) =   (אלהים](86]     = [ο λογος](86)th Prime Hō Lōgôs
         YHVH(63)      = ĔL-ō-Hêêm(63) = The Bible(63)  

But because you wrongly believe it belongs to the Son you say…

Quote (davidbfun @ Sep. 03 2010,13:36)

This thread the deception is the Holy Spirit is Jesus Christ (the Word). I guess he can't make up his mind who the Holy Spirit is.

Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

These verses are all derived from the same wording as in John 1:1! (“The Word”([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs)

Since we have no Scriptural rebuttal to either Zech.4:6, Zech.12:1
or now even Titus 2:5, we will now proceed to Mathew 13:19…

Matt.13:19 When any one heareth “The Word”([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of the kingdom,
and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that
which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.
Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is “The Word” of God.
Acts12:24: But “The Word” of God grew and multiplied.

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

Since there is no Scriptural rebuttal (by anyone) against Matt.13:19 proving the “HolySpirit” is “The Word”!
We will now proceed to Mark 4:14, providing further PROOF that the “HolySpirit” is indeed “The Word”…

   Mark 4:14 The sower(Jesus) soweth “The Word”(HolySpirit).

Jesus identifies himself(the “Son of Man”) as the sower. (Matt.13:37)
John identifies Jesus as the one who baptizes us with the HolySpirit
(Jesus as the one sowing “The Word”). (Mathew 3:11 / Acts 12:24)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (barley @ Jan. 17 2011,00:02)

Kerwin, God is the Holy Spirit.  God is holy.  God is spirit… I Peter 1:23 23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. barley

Hi Barley, Yes; you are correct!

Lev.11:45 For I the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt,
               to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy,
                    for I holy.
John 4:24 God is Spirit: and they that worship
                      him must worship in spirit and in truth.

  Mark 4:14 The sower(Jesus) soweth “The Word”(HolySpirit).
Jesus identifies himself(the “Son of Man”) as the sower. (Matt.13:37)
John identifies Jesus as the one who baptizes us with the HolySpirit
(Jesus as the one sowing “The Word”). (Mathew 3:11 / Acts 12:24)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[gollamudi]

Hi brother Ed,
If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit being the father of Jesus?

Peace to you
Adam

[Ed J]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,15:05)

Hi brother Ed, If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit being the father of Jesus? Peace to you Adam

Hi Adam,

Would that not mean Jesus was conceived by “The Seed” of God?
Explain how you see this as a problem?

Your brother
in Christ, Jesus!
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[gollamudi]

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,17:30)

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,15:05) Hi brother Ed, If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit being the father of Jesus? Peace to you Adam Hi Adam, Would that not mean Jesus was conceived by “The Seed” of God? Explain how you see this as a problem? Your brother in Christ, Jesus! Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

It is another digression. If you say that Holy Spirit is God's seed (which I don't believe that God has one) what is the 'word' that became Jesus?. Instead you explain us what do you mean by 'word' in John 1:1 first.

Peace to you
Adam

[Ed J]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,17:57)

Quote (Ed J @ Jan. 17 2011,17:30) Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,15:05) Hi brother Ed, If 'word' is the Holy Spirit Jesus was the flesh which the 'word' became as per John 1:14. Don't you think it causes problem for the writer of First Gospel as he states Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit as per Matt 1:20 which could be taken as the Holy Spirit being the father of Jesus? Peace to you Adam Hi Adam, Would that not mean Jesus was conceived by “The Seed” of God? Explain how you see this as a problem? Your brother in Christ, Jesus! Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org It is another digression. If you say that Holy Spirit is God's seed (which I don't believe that God has one) what is the 'word' that became Jesus?. Instead you explain us what do you mean by 'word' in John 1:1 first. Peace to you Adam

Hi Adam,

I have lined “Bible Truth”=117 up to help you to better
understand “Our YHVH”=117; the God of our fathers.

“The Word” was and still is the HolySpirit.

John 1:1…
In the beginning was the Word(HolySpirit),
and the Word(HolySpirit) was with God,
and the Word(HolySpirit) was God.

           English        ↔    Hebrew       ↔    Greek
     “Word of God”  ↔      “God”         ↔ “The Word”
“Word of God”(86) =   (אלהים](86]     = [ο λογος](86)th Prime Hō Lōgôs
         YHVH(63)      = ĔL-ō-Hêêm(63) = The Bible(63)    
 Spirit of God(117) = (117)יהוה האלהים = Bible Truth(117)

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[gollamudi]

So you say that 'Davar' ('word') as the impersonal expression of God? But how can you equate it with another aspect of God called the Holy Spirit?

[Ed J]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,19:49)

So you say that 'Davar' ('word') as the impersonal expression of God? But how can you equate it with another aspect of God called the Holy Spirit?

Hi Adam,

Are you sure you don't mean: [ה דָּבָר] hä dâ-bâr (The Word):

דָּבָר: (dâ-bâr) da-bar; because of, advice, answer, book, portion + power, ect. ect.

Does this not sound like a description of the (roo'-âkh hä kō'-dĕsh) [ר֫וּחַ ה קֹ֫דֶשׁ] “The HolySpirit”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[gollamudi]

I mean 'ha dabar'.

[Ed J]

Quote (gollamudi @ Jan. 17 2011,21:01)

I mean 'ha dabar'.

Shalom Adam,

דָּבָר: (dâ-bâr) da-bar; because of, advice, answer, book, portion + power, ect. ect.

Does this not sound like a description of the (roo'-âkh hä kō'-dĕsh) [ר֫וּחַ ה קֹ֫דֶשׁ] “The HolySpirit”?

B'Shem
YHVH

[Baker]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 05 2010,07:22)

Hi Everyone, These verses are all derived from the same wording as in John 1:1! (“The Word”([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) Since we have no Scriptural rebuttal to either Zech.4:6, Zech.12:1 or now even Titus 2:5, we will now proceed to Mathew 13:19… Matt.13:19 When any one heareth “The Word”([ο λογος] Hō Lōgôs) of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side. Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The seed is “The Word” of God. Acts12:24: But “The Word” of God grew and multiplied. Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17) יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm! Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Zec 4:5 Then the angel that talked with me answered and said unto me, Knowest thou not what these be? And I said, No, my lord.

Zec 4:6 Then he answered and spake unto me, saying, This is the word of the LORD unto Zerubbabel, saying, Not by might, nor by power, but by my spirit, saith the LORD of hosts.

Who is speaking to Zechariah? an “ANGEL”,
what is he doing? delivering a “message” from the LORD.

So who, or what, is the Holy Spirit? the angel, or the message?

Georg

[GeneBalthrop]

Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does to anyone else, rather angel or man makes no difference, it is still the Spirit (intellect) of GOD producing those words in the person. God who (IS) Spirit was indeed (IN) JESUS and works in all and through all his Childern and Creation. IMO

peace and love……………………………………….gene

[Baker]

Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 18 2011,01:20)

Georg…………..It is the message , the same applies to Jesus , the Spirit produces the WORDS (intelligent utterance) and the words spoken ARE SPIRIT, NOT the person speaking those word, This applies to Jesus also, Just as it does to anyone else, rather angel or man makes no difference, it is still the Spirit (intellect) of GOD producing those words in the person. God  who (IS) Spirit was indeed (IN) JESUS  and works in all and through all his Childern and Creation. IMO peace and love……………………………………….gene

Jhn 12:47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Jhn 12:49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

Jhn 12:50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

Jhn 17:8 For I have given unto them the “”words”” which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.

Jhn 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath “”taught me””, I speak these things.

You were saying?

Georg

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