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  • #373232
    terraricca
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    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2014,03:26)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,01:39)
    Hi Wakeup,
    Yes age 13 he showed evidence of his deep knowledge of scripture.
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.


    hi Nick

    Quote
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.

    any scripture for your claim ???


    hi Nick

    Lk 4:1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert,

    so he was led to be tested in the desert but he was full of the holy spirit ,can you explain this ???

    #373233
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    Why would he not be tested?
    Only in the fire are we tempered and made strong

    #373234
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,08:37)
    Hi T,
    Why would he not be tested?
    Only in the fire are we tempered and made strong


    This is true.
    Satan always waits for the weakest time of men.
    Jusus Was very hungry,this is when satan attacks.

    In the last days when no one can buy or sell without the mark
    of the beast and the false prophet.
    Many christians will go without food.
    This is the test of our faith.

    He who saves his life shall loose it,and he who loses
    his life for my sake shall find life.

    wakeup.

    #373235
    terraricca
    Participant

    you guy's really mist the point ,i was making ,do you even understand the scripture that i have quoted ???

    #373236
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    Only the works of the Spirit can survive the flames.

    #373237
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2014,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2014,03:26)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,01:39)
    Hi Wakeup,
    Yes age 13 he showed evidence of his deep knowledge of scripture.
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.


    hi Nick

    Quote
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.

    any scripture for your claim ???


    hi Nick

    Lk 4:1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert,

    so he was led to be tested in the desert but he was full of the holy spirit ,can you explain this ???


    The saints with the Holy spirit will mainly be satan's target.
    The rest are his already,he has no need to test them.
    They will do according to the will of the flesh,and will go deeper into all sorts of temptations.
    Meaning, they will be one with Babylon.

    wakeup.

    #373238
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 05 2014,12:21)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2014,08:33)

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 05 2014,03:26)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,01:39)
    Hi Wakeup,
    Yes age 13 he showed evidence of his deep knowledge of scripture.
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.


    hi Nick

    Quote
    But he was led by the Spirit from the anointing at the Jordan.

    any scripture for your claim ???


    hi Nick

    Lk 4:1 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, returned from the Jordan and was led by the Spirit in the desert,

    so he was led to be tested in the desert but he was full of the holy spirit ,can you explain this ???


    The saints with the Holy spirit will mainly be satan's target.
    The rest are his already,he has no need to test them.
    They will do according to the will of the flesh,and will go deeper into all sorts of temptations.
    Meaning, they will be one with Babylon.

    wakeup.


    w

    my scripture does not talk about the saints but about Christ

    #373239
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,18:37)
    Hi MB,
    Can you show me the scripture.
    The Word became flesh does not say that.


    You can find this teaching all throughout the first chapter of John's gospel…… but specifically 1:14.

    The Word didn't just become flesh, Nick.  It became flesh AND dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.

    And the ONLY one who ever dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son is Jesus of Nazareth.

    Ergo, the Word became the human being Jesus of Nazareth.

    #373240
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (kerwin @ Mar. 03 2014,20:21)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 04 2014,06:08)

    Kerwin,

    WHO speaks through Jesus in these latter days?


    Mike,

    God speaks his word through Jesus. = God's word speaks through Jesus


    No Kerwin.

    Those two things do NOT equal each other. Either “God” spoke through Jesus, or “God's Word” spoke through Jesus.

    Which one of those is the scriptural truth?

    #373241
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Jesus Christ dwelled among men.
    Jesus of Nazareth was a man like us.

    His transformation by unity with the Spirit is our hope
    We must follow him

    #373242
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 03 2014,20:42)
    Hi MB,
    The spiritual man John saw the WORD when he saw Jesus Christ.[1jn 1]
    He neatly provided the bridge to our understanding


    Yes he did, Nick.  Because not only did John tell us that the one they saw with their own eyes and touched with their own hands was “The Word” – he also told us that “The Word” is the one who rides the white horse in Revelation.

    He also told us that “The Word” is the one who became flesh and dwelled on earth with the glory of God's only begotten Son.

    John did a lot of “bridge gapping”.  :)

    The easiest of his bridges to cross is in John 1:16-17. After spending 16 verses talking about someone he identified only as “the Word”, he uses verse 17 to bridge the gap for us, and identify this “Word” as none other than “Jesus Christ”.

    #373243
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Yes he touched and heard the Word of God Jesus Christ.
    Amazing how the Spirit of God can change an ordinary man.
    The same happened with the fishermen and it still happens.
    But trying to understand it all is like trying to catch the wind

    #373244
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 03 2014,21:21)
    The name Jesus was only since he was born;
    made flesh.Not before.
    Before creation He was the Word of God.
    God brought forth his Word and given Him a form like us.


    I don't know of any scripture that says he wasn't named “Jesus” until he was born of Mary – but I agree with that part of your post, Wakeup.

    The being known in the beginning as “The Word” actually BECAME the flesh person known as “Jesus”.

    It was one and the same being.

    #373245
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    SAY HE WASN'T?
    Surely you need to find one that says he WAS

    Only the ANOINTED man is called Jesus Christ.

    The Holy Spirit came down and rested on him at the Jordan
    Then his ministry started in power

    #373246
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (terraricca @ Mar. 04 2014,15:28)
    hi Nick

    do you know who is the ONE that told John the baptist to go and start to baptize people ???


    Or better yet………… who led Jesus to John in the first place – if not the Spirit?

    How did Jesus know it was necessary for John to baptize him – if he only had the Spirit after that baptism?

    #373247
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,18:27)
    Hi MB,
    Jesus Christ dwelled among men.
    Jesus of Nazareth was a man like us.

    His transformation by unity with the Spirit is our hope
    We must follow him


    Nick,

    Where is it written that the regular old man Jesus of Nazareth was “transformed by unity with the Spirit”?

    Because what I read is that the Word actually BECAME the flesh man Jesus of Nazareth.

    #373248
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    Are you thinking God was not with Jesus of Nazareth till the Jordan?
    His Father was a good father and helped him grow up and with learning scripture.
    He was led to the Jordan and then the Spirit filled that normal human vessel and took over his life.

    #373249
    mikeboll64
    Blocked

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 05 2014,18:34)
    Hi MB,
    Yes he touched and heard the Word of God Jesus Christ.
    Amazing how the Spirit of God can change an ordinary man.


    Your first line is correct and scriptural.

    I'm waiting to see the scripture that supports your claim that Jesus was an ordinary man who was later changed or transformed by the Spirit.

    #373250
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,

    We are to follow his lead.
    Now like Paul we should be able to say
    “It is no longer I that liveth but Christ that liveth in me”[gal]

    #373251
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi MB,
    The geneology of the MAN Jesus of Nazareth is well shown in scripture.

    “is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary…”Mk 6.3

    The carpenter became a miracle worker full of wisdom and grace by his anointing of the Spirit- JESUS CHRIST
    Still a man [Acts 2.22f] but with connections after the Jordan to before time

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