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[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:35)

EdJ. Yes; we have the spirit of Christ in us. No; we are not spirit until the resurrection. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,  Why do you invent questions to answer, ones that I DID NOT ASK?

                 I did NOT ask you
    “do you have the spirit of Christ in you”

                and I did NOT ask you
    “do you have to wait until the resurrection to be spirit”

Now will you P-L-E-A-S-E just answer my simple question?

Do you have God's divine nature in you now?     YES  or  NO?      (<– this is a very simple question)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:43)

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:35) I ask simple questions, not a plethora of them (like you do) which is somehow suppose to justify your beliefs, we all here see through that approach. EdJ. What is it really that you believe? Please be clarify. (1) Are you born again? (2) Are you spirit? wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

1) Yes
2) Flesh and Spirit both    (see John 3:6)

Flesh (born of water)
Spirit (born again of God's HolySpirit)  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:45)

Hi WU, There is no such thing as mother's water. The waters of childbirth are of the conception.

Hi Nick,

What does it mean when you ask a pregnant mother  “did you water break” ?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:54)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:35) EdJ. Yes; we have the spirit of Christ in us. No; we are not spirit until the resurrection. wakeup. Hi Wakeup,  Why do you invent questions to answer, ones that I DID NOT ASK?                  I did NOT ask you     “do you have the spirit of Christ in you”                 and I did NOT ask you     “do you have to wait until the resurrection to be spirit” Now will you P-L-E-A-S-E just answer my simple question? Do you have God's divine nature in you now?     YES  or  NO?      (<– this is a very simple question) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

I am trying hard everyday to live according to the spirit.
So that I will be accepted, when the time comes.
I can not declare myself Holy.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:19)

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:54) Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:35) EdJ. Yes; we have the spirit of Christ in us. No; we are not spirit until the resurrection. wakeup. Hi Wakeup,  Why do you invent questions to answer, ones that I DID NOT ASK?                  I did NOT ask you     “do you have the spirit of Christ in you”                 and I did NOT ask you     “do you have to wait until the resurrection to be spirit” Now will you P-L-E-A-S-E just answer my simple question? Do you have God's divine nature in you now?     YES  or  NO?      (<– this is a very simple question) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EdJ. I am  trying hard everyday to live according to the spirit. So that I will be accepted, when the time comes. I can not declare myself Holy. wakeup.

Is that a “yes” then?
– or –
Is that a “no” answer?

[Ed J]

Why do you insist on answering YOUR OWN questions, ones that I did not ask?

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

              I did NOT ask you
“Are you trying hard everyday to live according to the spirit”

             and I did NOT ask you
      “Are you declaring yourself to be Holy”

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:00)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,20:43) Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:35) I ask simple questions, not a plethora of them (like you do) which is somehow suppose to justify your beliefs, we all here see through that approach. EdJ. What is it really that you believe? Please be clarify. (1) Are you born again? (2) Are you spirit? wakeup. Hi Wakeup, 1) Yes 2) Flesh and Spirit both    (see John 3:6) Flesh (born of water) Spirit (born again of God's HolySpirit)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

You are born again; then you are spirit. Are you really?
Jesus said this: If you are born *OF* the spirit ;you are spirit.
But I see you still having KFC and Burgers?

wakeup.

[Ed J]

What I instead asked…

Do you have God's divine nature in you now?     YES  or  NO?  

[Ed J]

Hi Wakeup,

If you want me to answer your questions, don't you think you should answer mine also?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:33)

EdJ. (1) You are born again; then you are spirit. Are you really? (2) Jesus said this: If you are born *OF* the spirit ;you are spirit. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

1) Spirit and Flesh both

2)  “If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.”  (Gal 5:25)

Is Gal 5:25 futuristic to you?   y/n?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Wakeup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:39)

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:33) EdJ. (1) You are born again; then you are spirit. Are you really? (2) Jesus said this: If you are born *OF* the spirit ;you are spirit. wakeup. Hi Wakeup, 1) Spirit and Flesh both 2)  “If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.”  (Gal 5:25) Is Gal 5:25 futuristic to you?   y/n? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

EdJ.

Understand what you read.

Galatians 5:25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Walking *IN* the spirit does not mean that you are spirit.

You will be born again in spirit at the resurrection.
Jesus was not born again at his baptism. Is HE?
Was He not born again; before His baptism?
Please tell me.

wakeup.

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:48)

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,21:39) Hi Wakeup, “If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.”  (Gal 5:25) Is Gal 5:25 futuristic to you?   y/n? EdJ. Understand what you read. Galatians 5:25   If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Walking *IN* the spirit does not mean that you are spirit. You will be born again in spirit at the resurrection. Jesus was not born again at his baptism. Is HE? Was He not born again; before His baptism? Please tell me. wakeup.

Is that a “no” then?
          – or –
Is that a “yes” answer?

[Ed J]

Please start your answer with either “yes” or “no”, OK?

When your “response” contains neither a “yes” nor a “no”,
then it is not an answer to MY question, but merely a speech.

[Ed J]

…that is what I mean when I say:  “please no speeches”

[Ed J]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,21:48)

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,20:35) I ask simple questions, not a plethora of them (like you do) which is somehow suppose to justify your beliefs, we all here see through that approach. EdJ. You will be born again in spirit at the resurrection. Jesus was not born again at his baptism. Is HE? Was He not born again; before His baptism? Please tell me. wakeup.

Hi Wakeup,

Here is yet another example of your approach.

I will indeed answer your questions,
BUT you must also answer mine, deal?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2014,17:04)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ April 01 2014,12:46) Quote (Wakeup @ Mar. 30 2014,16:08) Adam was the first created flesh child. Jesus was the first created spirit child. Agreed. And which did God create first, spirit things, or flesh things?  It was spirit things, right? No Mike, this verse is in contradiction with your current belief: “Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which  is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.”  (1 Cor 15:46)

Ed,

You are using a completely different teaching that was made in a completely different context to refute another teaching.  Not a good idea.

Ed, which did God create first……… the angels, or mankind?

Are the angels flesh?  Or spirit?

Therefore, God created spirit things before He ever created flesh things.

But thanks for bringing attention to one of my posts that Wakeup never addressed.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 04 2014,22:04)

Hi Wakeup, Are you suggesting that you will not have God's divine nature until you are resurrected?

Ed,

The teaching Jesus gave to Nicodemus is about being born of something other than flesh in order to see or enter the kingdom of heaven.

This must be a LITERAL rebirth of spirit, and not flesh.

Don't confuse this with the metaphorical “born again” that comes from giving your fleshly life over to serving God and His Christ.

Wakeup is talking about the LITERAL “born again”, and not the METAPHORICAL one.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Ed J @ April 05 2014,03:32)

I'm familiar with your beliefs, I could write a book on them. What I want from you in our discussions, IS ANSWERS to my questions.

Amen!

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Wakeup @ April 05 2014,03:50)

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 05 2014,20:45) Hi WU, There is no such thing as mother's water. The waters of childbirth are of the conception. Nick. Then you dont understand Jesus speech. He was very clear and straight. Born of water=flesh;  born of spirit=spirit. Why can you not understand? wakeup.

Wakeup,

The teaching is that flesh gives birth to flesh.  Those who are born again from above will be born of spirit AND water.

I assume this refers to the heavenly life-giving waters that flow from the thrones of God and His Lamb.  Or some other kind of heavenly water.

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