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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 23 2009,17:19) Hi KW,
Are you saying that the God of creation could not do what scripture says He did through His Spirit?
Should we limit our expectations of God's abilities to what you are comfortable with??
God does not do evil. What you are declaring is God is a God of contradictions and that is not so. It is like asking God to create a rock he cannot lift. He will not do it because it is contradictory to his nature.Do you believe scripture when it states that Jesus is the Spiritual Son of God and the physical Son of David?
JC…………….lets not forget the rest of the verse, and these three agree (IN) ONE. Because they are one and the same, Where do you see Jesus mentioned there. Word is (NOT) a Person it is the expression of INTELLECT OR SPIRIT OF THE ONE GOD.
peace and love……………………gene
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 24 2009,10:26) Hi JN,
That verse is a poor foundation having been added by men.
Nick,Are you aware of all the verses that have been added by men?
Love,
Mandythey say some verses are added by men but all were wrote by men with inspiration of God but if they camer up with it just because then thats no good
Nick Hassan wrote:
Quote So your judge of contradictions is your intellect?
Do you realize how absurd that statement sounds? A contradiction is a contradiction because the premises disagree with the conclusion. For example 1+2 = 7 because 1 + 2 does not equal 7. In your case you are declaring that God, whom has no physical form, fathered a Son according to that non-existent physical form. How do you create a something that is non-existent as once something is made it is existence? There is simply no physical pattern for Jesus to be fathered after.
You are also contradict scripture which attests that as for his physical form Jesus is the Son of David. God is Spirit and his children are thus the children of his Spirit.
Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2009,08:02) Nick Hassan wrote: Quote So your judge of contradictions is your intellect?
Do you realize how absurd that statement sounds? A contradiction is a contradiction because the premises disagree with the conclusion. For example 1+2 = 7 because 1 + 2 does not equal 7. In your case you are declaring that God, whom has no physical form, fathered a Son according to that non-existent physical form. How do you create a something that is non-existent as once something is made it is existence? There is simply no physical pattern for Jesus to be fathered after.
You are also contradict scripture which attests that as for his physical form Jesus is the Son of David. God is Spirit and his children are thus the children of his Spirit.
but God said let us make man in our own immageQuote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 25 2009,08:42) Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2009,08:02) Nick Hassan wrote: Quote So your judge of contradictions is your intellect?
Do you realize how absurd that statement sounds? A contradiction is a contradiction because the premises disagree with the conclusion. For example 1+2 = 7 because 1 + 2 does not equal 7. In your case you are declaring that God, whom has no physical form, fathered a Son according to that non-existent physical form. How do you create a something that is non-existent as once something is made it is existence? There is simply no physical pattern for Jesus to be fathered after.
You are also contradict scripture which attests that as for his physical form Jesus is the Son of David. God is Spirit and his children are thus the children of his Spirit.
but God said let us make man in our own immage
Ecclesiastics 7:29(KJV) reads:Quote Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.
Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2009,08:02) Nick Hassan wrote: Quote So your judge of contradictions is your intellect?
Do you realize how absurd that statement sounds? A contradiction is a contradiction because the premises disagree with the conclusion. For example 1+2 = 7 because 1 + 2 does not equal 7. In your case you are declaring that God, whom has no physical form, fathered a Son according to that non-existent physical form. How do you create a something that is non-existent as once something is made it is existence? There is simply no physical pattern for Jesus to be fathered after.
You are also contradict scripture which attests that as for his physical form Jesus is the Son of David. God is Spirit and his children are thus the children of his Spirit.
Hi KW,
So God cannot do what seems illogical to you?
How about creation from nothing?Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2009,03:42) Quote (kerwin @ July 25 2009,08:02) Nick Hassan wrote: Quote So your judge of contradictions is your intellect?
Do you realize how absurd that statement sounds? A contradiction is a contradiction because the premises disagree with the conclusion. For example 1+2 = 7 because 1 + 2 does not equal 7. In your case you are declaring that God, whom has no physical form, fathered a Son according to that non-existent physical form. How do you create a something that is non-existent as once something is made it is existence? There is simply no physical pattern for Jesus to be fathered after.
You are also contradict scripture which attests that as for his physical form Jesus is the Son of David. God is Spirit and his children are thus the children of his Spirit.
Hi KW,
So God cannot do what seems illogical to you?
How about creation from nothing?
Why do you think making something from nothing is illogical?Is it illogical to make a cake?
If so then why?
In the same way it is logical to make something from nothing for the one that knows how and has the power to do so.
But you are not speaking of making something of nothing but of Jesus being the child of God's physical form when God has no physical form.
God can of course make himself a physical form as long as doing so would not be evil.
In addition scripture clearly states that Jesus is the Son of David.
Quote (Jesus name follower of Christ @ July 27 2009,03:27) son of david yes but also son of God
If you are stating that Jesus is the physical Son of David and the spiritual Son of God then I agree.If you are stating that Jesus is the physical Son of David and of God then I disagree as God is not a descendant of David and David is no more of a descendant of God that the rest of mankind is.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 27 2009,03:34) Hi KW,
Either you rely on the wisdom of God or your own.
Which is more reliable?
It seems that you believe that your wisdom is. Save yourself and believe what God states instead of the teachings of men.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,02:02) Hi KW,
You obviously prefer resting on your own understanding.
Prov 3
What I state comes from scripture and what you state does not. It is simply not there.Romans 1:3-4(KJV) reads:
Quote Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Why does this scripture say Jesus is the seed of David?
Why does this scripture say Jesus is the Son of God?
Mark 14:36(KJV) reads:
Quote And he said, Abba, Father, all things are possible unto thee; take away this cup from me: nevertheless not what I will, but what thou wilt.
Romans 8:15(KJV) reads:
Quote For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Galatians 4:6(KJV) reads:
Quote And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
Of course who are you to believe what God states or to use the mind he gave you? (sarcasm intended)
Hi KW,
So because you cannot align with nature these verses then one must be wrong?
Such is the fruit of human self reliance.Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 28 2009,06:49) Hi KW,
So because you cannot align with nature these verses then one must be wrong?
Such is the fruit of human self reliance.
Why are you afraid to answer the questions I asked?Why are you afraid to use the mind God gave you?
If God asked you what 1+1 is could you answer?
I ask because he tests you in many ways in order to fulfill his purpose for you.
Believe all that God states.
One last question. What does God want out of his people?
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