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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,12:00) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,04:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25) colter Quote Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon. how is this true how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest do not make a foul of yourself . a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian , SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless! Colter colter you realy do not understand Gods words and the teachings of his son, when you come about to think of a sin and that the sin as overcome you ,but did not do it yet ,you have already been declared a sinner and so rejected God and Christ, show me one single true christian that committed sin ,just look at Paul of Tarsus ,how many did he persecuted of Gods people after being become himself a Christian Typical, Christians spend a lot of time confessing the sins of others but fail to confess the sins of the Church. Colter colter WHAT CHURCH?

Westboro Baptist is one of many Christian churches that come to mind.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,21:45)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,11:45) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,11:40) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,11:25) is this not a closer blue? The carriage spaces are just habit. The color is “azure blue” Colter Hi Colter, So your 'habit' is not connected then? Yes, I knew that. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Someone once did an anylisis of the dates and days of the week in the UB. Computer Analysis of Days of the Week in The Urantia Book Colter

Hi Colter,

There are idiot savants that can give you the day of the week for any chandler date.
You are (by proxy) comparing the writers of the UB with idiot savants; you do know that, right?
And you call “Theomatical data” which cannot be faked     … 'a voodoo numbers game'      …HA HA Ha Ha hahaha!!!

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 26 2012,00:34)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,21:45) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,11:45) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,11:40) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,11:25) is this not a closer blue? The carriage spaces are just habit. The color is “azure blue” Colter Hi Colter, So your 'habit' is not connected then? Yes, I knew that. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Someone once did an anylisis of the dates and days of the week in the UB. Computer Analysis of Days of the Week in The Urantia Book Colter Hi Colter, There are idiot savants that can give you the day of the week for any chandler date. You are (by proxy) comparing the writers of the UB with idiot savants; you do know that, right? And you call “Theomatical data” which cannot be faked     … 'a voodoo numbers game'      …HA HA Ha Ha hahaha!!! God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Idiot savants?

Ephemerides computing wasn't available in 1934 with the precision that the UB has particularly with moon cycles.

Do you have any idiot savant followers that were alive when Jesus was on the earth that remember the days of the week, corresponding with specific dates AND moon cycles?

How about plate tectonics and fault lines under the Mediterranean sea?

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,22:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,12:00) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,12:00) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,04:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25) colter Quote Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon. how is this true how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest do not make a foul of yourself . a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian , SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless! Colter colter you realy do not understand Gods words and the teachings of his son, when you come about to think of a sin and that the sin as overcome you ,but did not do it yet ,you have already been declared a sinner and so rejected God and Christ, show me one single true christian that committed sin ,just look at Paul of Tarsus ,how many did he persecuted of Gods people after being become himself a Christian Typical, Christians spend a lot of time confessing the sins of others but fail to confess the sins of the Church. Colter colter WHAT CHURCH? Westboro Baptist is one of many Christian churches that come to  mind. Colter

Colter.

You can not judge the bible by the churches.
They are all corrupt,but that does not mean that the bible is corrupt.
Just wait for the falling away of the churches,to the max.

wakeup.

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Wakeup,

I don't judge the Bible based on the atrocities of the Christian Church, the Bible attribute atrocities to God quite on it's own.

terraricca is in the unenviable position of removing any accountability from Christian social organizations because according to him/her, when a Christian commits a sin they are no longer technically a Christian. Like Judas was never previously an apostle of Jesus after he betrayed him.

I'm just giving the poor chap enough rope to hang him/herself.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,03:36)

terraricca is in the unenviable position of removing any accountability from Christian social organizations because according to him/her, when a Christian commits a sin they are no longer technically a Christian.

Hi Colter,

I thought you said you do not believe in guilt by association; what chainged?
Was it not Jesus who said: he would profess he never knew
you if you did not do the will of “Our Father”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 26 2012,04:39)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,03:36) terraricca is in the unenviable position of removing any accountability from Christian social organizations because according to him/her, when a Christian commits a sin they are no longer technically a Christian. Hi Colter, I thought you said you do not believe in guilt by association; what chainged? Was it not Jesus who said: he would profess he never knew you if you did not do the will of “Our Father”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

No, Jesus said he literally never “knew you” who did not have a real spiritual relationship with him. Do you know Jesus Ed?

And it's not merely a matter of association when the institution of the Christian church was involved in wide spread persecution.

Currently, in this age, the church is involved in persecuting Gay people.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,05:18)

Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,12:00) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,12:00) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,04:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,09:40) Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25) colter Quote Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon. how is this true how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest do not make a foul of yourself . a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian , SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless! Colter colter you realy do not understand Gods words and the teachings of his son, when you come about to think of a sin and that the sin as overcome you ,but did not do it yet ,you have already been declared a sinner and so rejected God and Christ, show me one single true christian that committed sin ,just look at Paul of Tarsus ,how many did he persecuted of Gods people after being become himself a Christian Typical, Christians spend a lot of time confessing the sins of others but fail to confess the sins of the Church. Colter colter WHAT CHURCH? Westboro Baptist is one of many Christian churches that come to  mind. Colter

colter

I do not call them Christians neither would Christ ,

and I do not call you a Christian neither ,

a Christian his someone that follows the pad of Christ and his father ,

ever met someone like that ?

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“Jesus had little to say about the social vices of his day; seldom did he make reference to moral delinquency. He was a positive teacher of true virtue. He studiously avoided the negative method of imparting instruction; he refused to advertise evil. He was not even a moral reformer. He well knew, and so taught his apostles, that the sensual urges of mankind are not suppressed by either religious rebuke or legal prohibitions. His few denunciations were largely directed against pride, cruelty, oppression, and hypocrisy.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,04:59)

Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter

Hi Colter,

Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,13:40)

“Jesus had little to say about the social vices of his day; seldom did he make reference to moral delinquency. He was a positive teacher of true virtue. He studiously avoided the negative method of imparting instruction; he refused to advertise evil. He was not even a moral reformer. He well knew, and so taught his apostles, that the sensual urges of mankind are not suppressed by either religious rebuke or legal prohibitions. His few denunciations were largely directed against pride, cruelty, oppression, and hypocrisy. Colter

colter

not bad;see Christ did not came to reform the system but to take out what was left of good in it ,all done through a free offer;

then wen all be done what ever is left becomes irrelevant to the ones in that class and so also irrelevant to any one out side of that group,and so it can be eliminated or dealt with by God as he see fit .

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,07:26)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,04:59) Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first?

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,10:10)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,07:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,04:59) Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first? Colter

Hi Colter,

My answer is “Yes”.

Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'?
Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no')
You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right?

Please answer this question.

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Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,10:20)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,10:10) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,07:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,04:59) Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first? Colter Hi Colter, My answer is “Yes”. Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'? Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no') You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Frankly Ed, I was more interested in you just answering the question based on your litigious, interrogating sort of spirit when demanding that I answer you. Your “ah-ha, gotcha-now” moments are week and speak more to intellectualism then sincere dialogue.

But yes, I do believe that you “know Jesus', that appears to be sidetracked and clouded by the need for proofs conical idolatry.

Colter

[Ed J]

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,12:35)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,10:20) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,10:10) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,07:26) Quote (Colter @ Aug. 26 2012,04:59) Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first? Colter Hi Colter, My answer is “Yes”. Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'? Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no') You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right? God bless Ed J Frankly Ed, I was more interested in you just answering the question based on your litigious, interrogating sort of spirit when demanding that I answer you. Your “ah-ha, gotcha-now” moments are week and speak more to intellectualism then sincere dialogue. But yes, I do believe that you “know Jesus', that appears to be sidetracked and clouded by the need for proofs conical idolatry. Colter

Hi Colter,

When have I ever said “gotcha”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Colter,

When have I ever said “gotcha”?  –  Describe one of my (so-called) gotcha moments.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Hi Colter, When have I ever said “gotcha”?  –  Describe one of my (so-called) gotcha moments. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

The most recent one is this quibleing:

Do you know Jesus Ed?

Colter

Hi Colter,

Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits?

God bless
Ed J

Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first?

Colter

Hi Colter,

My answer is “Yes”.

Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'?

Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no')

You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right?

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,21:29)

Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,13:03) Hi Colter, When have I ever said “gotcha”?  –  Describe one of my (so-called) gotcha moments. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org The most recent one is this quibleing: Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first? Colter Hi Colter, My answer is “Yes”. Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'? Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no') You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right? Colter

Colter.and Ed.

Do you believe all the red lettrings in the bible is Jesus speaking?

Wakeup.

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Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 27 2012,22:10)

Quote (Colter @ Aug. 27 2012,21:29) Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 27 2012,13:03) Hi Colter, When have I ever said “gotcha”?  –  Describe one of my (so-called) gotcha moments. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org The most recent one is this quibleing: Do you know Jesus Ed? Colter Hi Colter, Do you not have the gifts if discerning of spirits? God bless Ed J Ed, being the stickler you are for answering questions I would think you would answer my question first? Colter Hi Colter, My answer is “Yes”. Is not your question (in and of itself) evidence suggesting the answer to my question is 'no'? Plus me answering first gives you the answer. (which is more evidence of suggesting 'no') You do agree with my evidence analysis – (even if you disagree with my answer) right? Colter Colter.and Ed. Do you believe all the red lettrings in the bible is Jesus speaking? Wakeup.

For the most part yes, as accurately as the words of Jesus were remembered.

Some elements were added.

With the UB we now have an account of the celestials that were on the earth while Michael was here in the person of Jesus, so we know specifically what Jesus said and taught.

The Urantia Book
Paper 121
The Times of Michael’s Bestowal

(1332.1) 121:0.1 ACTING under the supervision of a commission of twelve members of the United Brotherhood of Urantia Midwayers, conjointly sponsored by the presiding head of our order and the Melchizedek of record, I am the secondary midwayer of onetime attachment to the Apostle Andrew, and I am authorized to place on record the narrative of the life transactions of Jesus of Nazareth as they were observed by my order of earth creatures, and as they were subsequently partially recorded by the human subject of my temporal guardianship. Knowing how his Master so scrupulously avoided leaving written records behind him, Andrew steadfastly refused to multiply copies of his written narrative. A similar attitude on the part of the other apostles of Jesus greatly delayed the writing of the Gospels.

Colter

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