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  • #333729
    Wakeup
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    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,05:44)

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    “Woe upon you, false guides of a nation! Over yonder have you built a monument to the martyred prophets of old, while you plot to destroy Him of whom they spoke. You garnish the tombs of the righteous and flatter yourselves that, had you lived in the days of your fathers, you would not have killed the prophets; and then in the face of such self-righteous thinking you make ready to slay him of whom the prophets spoke, the Son of Man. Inasmuch as you do these things, are you witness to yourselves that you are the wicked sons of them who slew the prophets. Go on, then, and fill up the cup of your condemnation to the full!”

    Colter


    Colter.

    You are quoting scriptures again;How come?
    Dont worship the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    You are slow of understanding and divert attention away from what Jesus said to the issue of book perfection in all area's. To Quote Jesus is not necessarily the same as quoting the Hebrew priest, or Paul, or the commentary about Jesus.

    After the supposed flood of Noah, which family member had the previous records of the world? Where are they now? Who is narrating what God said? Who heard God say the things attributed to him before Adam was created? How did Moses end up with them thousands of years latter when he supposedly wrote Genesis?  

    More has been revealed, and we now know the answer.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Moses was in close communication with God; God led him all the way,he is close to God.
    God even spoke to him on his last days.

    Moses was educated;and he could write,so whats the problem?

    Have you ever heard of enoch ;the 7th from Adam,how God preserved him,to be a witness to the old world before the flood? Have you read his book?

    What has the temple of God have in common,with the temple of devils?

    Christ came to make a new covenant with the jews,not to carry on the old covenant.
    The scriptures are against the works of the jews.
    But is in agreement with the old jewish prophets of God.

    If Christ was here today; you would have put the U.B. under his nose.
    I am sure he would disagree,because it is not his Fathers word.

    wakeup.

    #333730
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 24 2012,10:54)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,05:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 24 2012,04:34)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,04:06)
    “Woe upon you, false guides of a nation! Over yonder have you built a monument to the martyred prophets of old, while you plot to destroy Him of whom they spoke. You garnish the tombs of the righteous and flatter yourselves that, had you lived in the days of your fathers, you would not have killed the prophets; and then in the face of such self-righteous thinking you make ready to slay him of whom the prophets spoke, the Son of Man. Inasmuch as you do these things, are you witness to yourselves that you are the wicked sons of them who slew the prophets. Go on, then, and fill up the cup of your condemnation to the full!”

    Colter


    Colter.

    You are quoting scriptures again;How come?
    Dont worship the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    You are slow of understanding and divert attention away from what Jesus said to the issue of book perfection in all area's. To Quote Jesus is not necessarily the same as quoting the Hebrew priest, or Paul, or the commentary about Jesus.

    After the supposed flood of Noah, which family member had the previous records of the world? Where are they now? Who is narrating what God said? Who heard God say the things attributed to him before Adam was created? How did Moses end up with them thousands of years latter when he supposedly wrote Genesis?  

    More has been revealed, and we now know the answer.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Moses was in close communication with God; God led him all the way,he is close to God.
    God even spoke to him on his last days.

    Moses was educated;and he could write,so whats the problem?

    Have you ever heard of enoch ;the 7th from Adam,how God preserved him,to be a witness to the old world before the flood? Have you read his book?

    What has the temple of God have in common,with the temple of devils?

    Christ came to make a new covenant with the jews,not to carry on the old covenant.
    The scriptures are against the works of the jews.
    But is in agreement with the old jewish prophets of God.

    If Christ was here today; you would have put the U.B. under his nose.
    I am sure he would disagree,because it is not his Fathers word.

    wakeup.


    Yes, I have read the book attributed to Enoch, it speaks of the Son of God leaving his high estate and coming down to earth. The Book of Enoch was once considered to be the inspired word among early Christians, but when the church in Rome created the official conical list, they “un-inspired” TBE along with several other books. The Ethiopian Bible still retains Enoch. In fact if you chanced to be born into Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity your Bible would be 81 books long.

    It wasn't until the synod of Hippo AD 393 that the first conical list was settled, at least the one corresponding with the Roman Catholic edition of “the word”.

    The Book of Revelation wasn't added until 397 but not without controversy. In 419 a synod raised issues about the question of apostolic authorship which had been raised as far back as the 2nd century as well as issues of character, symbolism. Modern scholarship demonstrates that “John the Apostle, John the Evangelist and John of Patmos were three separate individuals.”

    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    I trust God, I'm skeptical of humans who claim they write the prefect word of God.

    Colter

    #333731
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2012,08:39)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,07:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 24 2012,06:00)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,04:02)

    You are like a robot.


    You are like the accuser.


    I used the words of Jesus to make the same point, the enemies of Jesus blindly rejected his Liberal spiritual message because it was quite different then the theological consensus of Judaism. Today, you flatly reject the content of the UB using the technicality of the scripture.

    According to the “nothing shall be added” doctrine of biblical inerrancy, it would not matter what new revelation came, you are forced to reject it.

    …..and It was actually Jesus who said of those enslaved, tradition bound leaders who used the dead legalistic mechanics of authoritarian theology “your Father is the devil”.

    Colter


    No Colter,

    I don't flatly reject the 'UB'.
    But as you say: “it is NOT the word of God'”.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    :4.7 The authority of truth is the very spirit that indwells its living manifestations, and not the dead words of the less illuminated and supposedly inspired men of another generation. And even if these holy men of old lived inspired and spirit-filled lives, that does not mean that their words were similarly spiritually inspired. Today we make no record of the teachings of this gospel of the kingdom lest, when I have gone, you speedily become divided up into sundry groups of truth contenders as a result of the diversity of your interpretation of my teachings. For this generation it is best that we live these truths while we shun the making of records.

    Colter

    #333732
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,22:27)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 24 2012,10:54)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,05:44)

    Quote (Wakeup @ Aug. 24 2012,04:34)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 24 2012,04:06)
    “Woe upon you, false guides of a nation! Over yonder have you built a monument to the martyred prophets of old, while you plot to destroy Him of whom they spoke. You garnish the tombs of the righteous and flatter yourselves that, had you lived in the days of your fathers, you would not have killed the prophets; and then in the face of such self-righteous thinking you make ready to slay him of whom the prophets spoke, the Son of Man. Inasmuch as you do these things, are you witness to yourselves that you are the wicked sons of them who slew the prophets. Go on, then, and fill up the cup of your condemnation to the full!”

    Colter


    Colter.

    You are quoting scriptures again;How come?
    Dont worship the scriptures.

    wakeup.


    You are slow of understanding and divert attention away from what Jesus said to the issue of book perfection in all area's. To Quote Jesus is not necessarily the same as quoting the Hebrew priest, or Paul, or the commentary about Jesus.

    After the supposed flood of Noah, which family member had the previous records of the world? Where are they now? Who is narrating what God said? Who heard God say the things attributed to him before Adam was created? How did Moses end up with them thousands of years latter when he supposedly wrote Genesis?  

    More has been revealed, and we now know the answer.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Moses was in close communication with God; God led him all the way,he is close to God.
    God even spoke to him on his last days.

    Moses was educated;and he could write,so whats the problem?

    Have you ever heard of enoch ;the 7th from Adam,how God preserved him,to be a witness to the old world before the flood? Have you read his book?

    What has the temple of God have in common,with the temple of devils?

    Christ came to make a new covenant with the jews,not to carry on the old covenant.
    The scriptures are against the works of the jews.
    But is in agreement with the old jewish prophets of God.

    If Christ was here today; you would have put the U.B. under his nose.
    I am sure he would disagree,because it is not his Fathers word.

    wakeup.


    Yes, I have read the book attributed to Enoch, it speaks of the Son of God leaving his high estate and coming down to earth. The Book of Enoch was once considered to be the inspired word among early Christians, but when the church in Rome created the official conical list, they “un-inspired” TBE along with several other books. The Ethiopian Bible still retains Enoch. In fact if you chanced to be born into Ethiopian Orthodox Christianity your Bible would be 81 books long.

    It wasn't until the synod of Hippo AD 393 that the first conical list was settled, at least the one corresponding with the Roman Catholic edition of “the word”.

    The Book of Revelation wasn't added until 397 but not without controversy. In 419 a synod raised issues about the question of apostolic authorship which had been raised as far back as the 2nd century as well as issues of character, symbolism. Modern scholarship demonstrates that “John the Apostle, John the Evangelist and John of Patmos were three separate individuals.”

    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    I trust God, I'm skeptical of humans who claim they write the prefect word of God.

    Colter


    Colter.

    Jesus said: seek and ye shall find. Do you believe this? yes/no.
    If yes, then would he not provide us with a place where to seek? yes/no.

    If yes, would he not prepare a book that is sufficient for us to read and find? yes/no.
    If yes, would that book not be the earliest print of the bible? Because those folks back then must also have a chance to find. yes/no.

    Do you believe that the later the translation the worse it gets? not better.

    Why was the U.B. not introduced in the first century by God,so his children back then can also enjoy reading it?

    I believe that in a hundred years from now,the bible would read the total opposite,because mans technology has increased,but mans morals has gone down the gurgler(drain).

    wakeup.

    #333733
    Spock
    Participant

    1) yes, seek God in faith and prayer and you will find his will, do his will.

    2) yes, the spirit/will of the Father within.

    You have made the point that I have repeatedly emphasized; the Bible is a substitute for seeking Gods will as taught and practiced by Jesus.

    3) No, Jesus didn't leave any writings, if he did they would have become a “fetish” like the Bible has become.

    4) No, the Bible is man made, it has also suffered editing and redaction.

    5) The Bible has gotten worse.

    6) The content of the UB was not revealed (with the exception of parts Johns original revelation on Patmos) because God did not want the content revealed until now for Gods own reasons.

    We are at a critical point on earth, more has been revealed, it strengthens faith in preperation for what is soon to happen.

    Colter

    #333734
    terraricca
    Participant

    colter

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    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D

    #333735
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,01:09)

    The content of the UB was not revealed (with the exception of  parts Johns original revelation on Patmos) because  God did not want  the content revealed until now for Gods own reasons.

    Colter


    Hi Colter,

    What makes you believe God didn't want the bible in its current form – since you voice the ability to say what God wants?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333736
    terraricca
    Participant

    COLTER

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    6) The content of the UB was not revealed (with the exception of  parts Johns original revelation on Patmos) because God did not want the content revealed until now for Gods own reasons.

    :D :D this is so convenient ,

    who wrote the UB I mean the original ???

    The Urantia Book, first published by Urantia Foundation in 1955, claims to have been presented by celestial beings as a revelation to our planet, Urantia.(is this not sounds like the book of the Mormons or the Koran ???)

    The writings in The Urantia Book instruct us on the genesis, history, and destiny of humanity and on our relationship with God the Father. They present a unique and compelling portrayal of the life and teachings of Jesus. They open new vistas of time and eternity to the human spirit, and offer new details of our ascending adventure in a friendly and carefully administered universe.

    The Urantia Book offers a clear and concise integration of science, philosophy, and religion. Those who read and study it believe that The Urantia Book has the capacity to make a significant contribution to the religious and philosophical thinking of people worldwide.

    The Urantia Book is not a “religion” per se. It builds upon the religious heritages of the past and present, encouraging a personal, living religious faith.

    Readers around the world have told us that reading The Urantia Book has profoundly affected them and often changed their lives. It has inspired them to reach new levels of spiritual growth and enhanced their sense of the value of human life.

    We encourage you to read it as well and discover for yourself its ennobling message.

    all  ;By Dr. William S. Sadler –???

    yeah, the man must be true over God right ???

    2Pe 1:16 We did not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

    2Pe 2:2 Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
    2Pe 2:3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up.

    #333737
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:34)
    Is Satan God of this world?

    Colter


    Wakeup and Colter: Who (“I” ask you) produced the first absolute 'divinity tension' –  if not Lucifer?

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    (6.1) 0:3.21 As a time-space creature would view the origin and differentiation of Reality, the eternal and infinite I AM achieved Deity liberation from the fetters of unqualified infinity through the exercise of inherent and eternal free will, and this divorcement from unqualified infinity produced the first absolute divinity-tension. This tension of infinity differential is resolved by the Universal Absolute, which functions to unify and co-ordinate the dynamic infinity of Total Deity and the static infinity of the Unqualified Absolute.

    (6.2) 0:3.22 In this original transaction the theoretical I AM achieved the realization of personality by becoming the Eternal Father of the Original Son simultaneously with becoming the Eternal Source of the Isle of Paradise. Coexistent with the differentiation of the Son from the Father, and in the presence of Paradise, there appeared the person of the Infinite Spirit and the central universe of Havona. With the appearance of coexistent personal Deity, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, the Father escaped, as a personality, from otherwise inevitable diffusion throughout the potential of Total Deity. Thenceforth it is only in Trinity association with his two Deity equals that the Father fills all Deity potential, while increasingly experiential Deity is being actualized on the divinity levels of Supremacy, Ultimacy, and Absoluteness.

    (6.3) 0:3.23 The concept of the I AM is a philosophic concession which we make to the time-bound, space-fettered, finite mind of man, to the impossibility of creature comprehension of eternity existences — nonbeginning, nonending realities and relationships. To the time-space creature, all things must have a beginning save only the ONE UNCAUSED — the primeval cause of causes. Therefore do we conceptualize this philosophic value-level as the I AM, at the same time instructing all creatures that the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit are coeternal with the I AM; in other words, that there never was a time when the I AM was not the Father of the Son and, with him, of the Spirit.

    (6.4) 0:3.24 The Infinite is used to denote the fullness — the finality — implied by the primacy of the First Source and Center. The theoretical I AM is a creature-philosophic extension of the “infinity of will,” but the Infinite is an actual value-level representing the eternity-intension of the true infinity of the absolute and unfettered free will of the Universal Father. This concept is sometimes designated the Father-Infinite.

    Quote (Ed J @ 1)

    Hi Wakeup and Colter,

    This link is to provide proof if you want
    to discuss who this theoretical 'i am' REALLY is.

    God bless
    Ed J

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333738
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,02:12)

    Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:34)
    Is Satan God of this world?

    Colter


    Wakeup and Colter: Who (“I” ask you) produced the first absolute 'divinity tension' –  if not Lucifer?

    Quote
    (6.1) 0:3.21 As a time-space creature would view the origin and differentiation of Reality, the eternal and infinite I AM achieved Deity liberation from the fetters of unqualified infinity through the exercise of inherent and eternal free will, and this divorcement from unqualified infinity produced the first absolute divinity-tension. This tension of infinity differential is resolved by the Universal Absolute, which functions to unify and co-ordinate the dynamic infinity of Total Deity and the static infinity of the Unqualified Absolute.

    (6.2) 0:3.22 In this original transaction the theoretical I AM achieved the realization of personality by becoming the Eternal Father of the Original Son simultaneously with becoming the Eternal Source of the Isle of Paradise. Coexistent with the differentiation of the Son from the Father, and in the presence of Paradise, there appeared the person of the Infinite Spirit and the central universe of Havona. With the appearance of coexistent personal Deity, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, the Father escaped, as a personality, from otherwise inevitable diffusion throughout the potential of Total Deity. Thenceforth it is only in Trinity association with his two Deity equals that the Father fills all Deity potential, while increasingly experiential Deity is being actualized on the divinity levels of Supremacy, Ultimacy, and Absoluteness.

    (6.3) 0:3.23 The concept of the I AM is a philosophic concession which we make to the time-bound, space-fettered, finite mind of man, to the impossibility of creature comprehension of eternity existences — nonbeginning, nonending realities and relationships. To the time-space creature, all things must have a beginning save only the ONE UNCAUSED — the primeval cause of causes. Therefore do we conceptualize this philosophic value-level as the I AM, at the same time instructing all creatures that the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit are coeternal with the I AM; in other words, that there never was a time when the I AM was not the Father of the Son and, with him, of the Spirit.

    (6.4) 0:3.24 The Infinite is used to denote the fullness — the finality — implied by the primacy of the First Source and Center. The theoretical I AM is a creature-philosophic extension of the “infinity of will,” but the Infinite is an actual value-level representing the eternity-intension of the true infinity of the absolute and unfettered free will of the Universal Father. This concept is sometimes designated the Father-Infinite.

    Quote (Ed J @ 1)

    Hi Wakeup and Colter,

    This link is to provide proof if you want
    to discuss who this theoretical 'i am' REALLY is.

    God bless
    Ed J

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    Quote (UB @ (6.2) 0:3.22)
    I AM achieved the realization of personality by becoming the Eternal Father of the Original Son


    Lucifer is NOT Jesus' father – the “HolySpirit” is!

    #333739
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25)
    colter

    Quote
    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D


    So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless!

    Colter

    #333740
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,02:12)

    Quote (Colter @ April 19 2012,01:34)
    Is Satan God of this world?

    Colter


    Wakeup and Colter: Who (“I” ask you) produced the first absolute 'divinity tension' –  if not Lucifer?

    Quote
    (6.1) 0:3.21 As a time-space creature would view the origin and differentiation of Reality, the eternal and infinite I AM achieved Deity liberation from the fetters of unqualified infinity through the exercise of inherent and eternal free will, and this divorcement from unqualified infinity produced the first absolute divinity-tension. This tension of infinity differential is resolved by the Universal Absolute, which functions to unify and co-ordinate the dynamic infinity of Total Deity and the static infinity of the Unqualified Absolute.

    (6.2) 0:3.22 In this original transaction the theoretical I AM achieved the realization of personality by becoming the Eternal Father of the Original Son simultaneously with becoming the Eternal Source of the Isle of Paradise. Coexistent with the differentiation of the Son from the Father, and in the presence of Paradise, there appeared the person of the Infinite Spirit and the central universe of Havona. With the appearance of coexistent personal Deity, the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit, the Father escaped, as a personality, from otherwise inevitable diffusion throughout the potential of Total Deity. Thenceforth it is only in Trinity association with his two Deity equals that the Father fills all Deity potential, while increasingly experiential Deity is being actualized on the divinity levels of Supremacy, Ultimacy, and Absoluteness.

    (6.3) 0:3.23 The concept of the I AM is a philosophic concession which we make to the time-bound, space-fettered, finite mind of man, to the impossibility of creature comprehension of eternity existences — nonbeginning, nonending realities and relationships. To the time-space creature, all things must have a beginning save only the ONE UNCAUSED — the primeval cause of causes. Therefore do we conceptualize this philosophic value-level as the I AM, at the same time instructing all creatures that the Eternal Son and the Infinite Spirit are coeternal with the I AM; in other words, that there never was a time when the I AM was not the Father of the Son and, with him, of the Spirit.

    (6.4) 0:3.24 The Infinite is used to denote the fullness — the finality — implied by the primacy of the First Source and Center. The theoretical I AM is a creature-philosophic extension of the “infinity of will,” but the Infinite is an actual value-level representing the eternity-intension of the true infinity of the absolute and unfettered free will of the Universal Father. This concept is sometimes designated the Father-Infinite.

    Quote (Ed J @ 1)

    Hi Wakeup and Colter,

    This link is to provide proof if you want
    to discuss who this theoretical 'i am' REALLY is.

    God bless
    Ed J

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Ed ?

    “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”

    Was Moses talking to God or to Lucifer?

    Where does this obsession you have with “I AM” come from?

    btw, in the UB Jesus is not the second person of the Trinity. But you read 60% of it so I don't need to remind you, wink.

    Colter

    #333741
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25)
    colter

    Quote
    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D


    So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless!

    Colter


    should read “culpability”

    C

    #333742
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:46)
    Ed ?

    “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”

    Was Moses talking to God or to Lucifer?

    Where does this obsession you have with “I AM” come from?

    btw, in the UB Jesus is not the second person of the Trinity. But  you read 60% of it so I don't need to remind you, wink.

    Colter


    Hi Colter, PLEASE TAKE NOTE:  (You seem to keep getting your facts all mixed up.)

    Stuart said he read 60% of the UB book three years ago.
    Ed J said he did read ¾ ths of it about 8 years ago.


           God said: אהיה אשר אהיה

                YHVH means: Causes to become.

    So when Moses Asked Him His name, he said…
    [אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh, which translates into English as…
    I will be what I will be”  or  “I will be that I will be”  or  “I will become what I will become

                   YHVH=63 and “will be”=63

    Theomatics(numbers relating to God) clearly illustrate who God is.
    The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.
    [יהוה] translates directly into English as YHVH.


    “let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause.” (Psalms 35:19)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333743
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,03:40)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:46)
    Ed ?

    “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”

    Was Moses talking to God or to Lucifer?

    Where does this obsession you have with “I AM” come from?

    btw, in the UB Jesus is not the second person of the Trinity. But you read 60% of it so I don't need to remind you, wink.

    Colter


    Hi Colter, PLEASE TAKE NOTE: (You seem to keep getting your facts all mixed up.)

    Stuart said he read 60% of the UB book three years ago.
    Ed J said he did read ¾ ths of it about 8 years ago.


    God said: אהיה אשר אהיה

    YHVH means: Causes to become.

    So when Moses Asked Him His name, he said…
    [אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh, which translates into English as…
    I will be what I will be” or “I will be that I will be” or “I will become what I will become

    YHVH=63 and “will be”=63

    Theomatics(numbers relating to God) clearly illustrate who God is.
    The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.
    [יהוה] translates directly into English as YHVH.


    “let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause.” (Psalms 35:19)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    What God will become – is what YOU call “God the supreme”.

    #333744
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:47)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25)
    colter

    Quote
    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D


    So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless!

    Colter


    should read “culpability”

    C


    Hi Colter,

    Do you believe in 'guilt by association'?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #333745
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,09:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25)
    colter

    Quote
    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D


    So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless!

    Colter


    colter

    you realy do not understand Gods words and the teachings of his son,

    when you come about to think of a sin and that the sin as overcome you ,but did not do it yet ,you have already been declared a sinner and so rejected God and Christ,

    show me one single true christian that committed sin ,just look at Paul of Tarsus ,how many did he persecuted of Gods people after being become himself a Christian ???

    #333746
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,09:40)

    Quote (terraricca @ Aug. 25 2012,01:25)
    colter

    Quote
    Christians used to murder anyone who dared speak the truth about the sacred cannon.

    how is this true ???

    how could a honest man steal ,??? if he does would he still be honest ??? do not make a foul of yourself .

    a man that calls himself a Christian and go and break the the way of that faith his no longer a Christian ,

    SO UNDER NO CONDITION CAN A CHRISTIAN BE A MURDERER ,IF HE MURDERS HE HIS NO CHRISTIAN :D


    So Christians get to absolve themselves historically from any capability because, at the precise moment that the Christians committed these atrocities, they we technically no longer Christians. Priceless!

    Colter


    colter

    Christian in this world serves as a reputation of goodness to others ,but so the ones that use it are wolves ,this is the same thing that a priest cloathing does not mean that the one that wear it his a priest ,right ??? :D

    #333747
    terraricca
    Participant

    colter

    Quote
    should read “culpability”

    C

    what would that do to a person that has no conscience ??? absolutely nothing, but the opposite would be devastating right ???yes.

    #333748
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Aug. 25 2012,03:40)

    Quote (Colter @ Aug. 25 2012,02:46)
    Ed ?

    “And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you”

    Was Moses talking to God or to Lucifer?

    Where does this obsession you have with “I AM” come from?

    btw, in the UB Jesus is not the second person of the Trinity. But  you read 60% of it so I don't need to remind you, wink.

    Colter


    Hi Colter, PLEASE TAKE NOTE:  (You seem to keep getting your facts all mixed up.)

    Stuart said he read 60% of the UB book three years ago.
    Ed J said he did read ¾ ths of it about 8 years ago.


           God said: אהיה אשר אהיה

                YHVH means: Causes to become.

    So when Moses Asked Him His name, he said…
    [אהיה אשר אהיה] ěhyäh ăsher ěhyäh, which translates into English as…
    I will be what I will be”  or  “I will be that I will be”  or  “I will become what I will become

                   YHVH=63 and “will be”=63

    Theomatics(numbers relating to God) clearly illustrate who God is.
    The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63.
    [יהוה] translates directly into English as YHVH.


    “let them wink with the eye that hate me without a cause.” (Psalms 35:19)


    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    I see, 3/4 would be 75%. That still doesn’t explain your lack of reading comprehension because there is extensive coverage of the Trinity in the UB which explains in a number of areas that Christ Michael isn't the second person of the Trinity.

    As for your numbers game and play on words, save that for those who lack real faith, needing magic and tarot cards.

    Colter

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