The Urantia Book The Bible

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Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,22:26)

Colter. Do you believe that those super beings are coming back to earth one day? wakeup.

Outside of our range of vision, outside of our sensory perception their are a host of angelic like beings that function on the planet.

Some of the revelators of the various papers were very high administrators that were visiting while others, like “the midwayers” are permanent residents of the planet.

But it's likly to be perhaps thousands of more years until the next revelation.

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ July 28 2012,22:20)

Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,14:36) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:18) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,11:08) Hi Wakeup, Do you mean the great 'IT IS'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. I dont get it? it is? wakeup. Hi Colter, Please tell Wakeup about the great 'IT IS' in the UB; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Wakeup, I haven’t a clue what Ed is alluding to in the UB. “IT IS” possible that Ed pays for his net service by the letter, this limits him to short vapid questions. Colter

Hi Colter,

Maybe you ain't such an expert on the UB.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 29 2012,06:36)

Quote (Colter @ July 28 2012,22:20) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,14:36) Quote (Wakeup @ July 28 2012,13:18) Quote (Ed J @ July 28 2012,11:08) Hi Wakeup, Do you mean the great 'IT IS'? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org EDj. I dont get it? it is? wakeup. Hi Colter, Please tell Wakeup about the great 'IT IS' in the UB; OK? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Wakeup, I haven’t a clue what Ed is alluding to in the UB. “IT IS” possible that Ed pays for his net service by the letter, this limits him to short vapid questions. Colter Hi Colter, Maybe you ain't such an expert on the UB. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

I made no such claim, but I have read the entire book 4 times and studied it for about 25 years.

I'm not sure if this is somehow related to the magic number tricks that you use for the Bible but maybe you should tell us more about this latest game so I can answer your question.

Colter

[Ed J]

Hi Colter, no game,

it was called “IT” or great “IT IS”(i believe it was written like this).
Maybe you can find out through the “Urantia Book Society”?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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Quote (Ed J @ July 29 2012,07:27)

Hi Colter, no game, it was called “IT” or great “IT IS”(i believe it was written like this). Maybe you can find out through the “Urantia Book Society”? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Oh my, that's a big clue! hummmm, is this charades? sounds like?

Colter

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Quote (Colter @ July 23 2012,10:50)

Quote (942767 @ July 23 2012,10:11) Hi Colter: That there are many Jews who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah is true, but nation of Israel exists as a nation again since 1948 so that the gospel can be preached to them as a nation again prior to the return of the Messiah for the church, and the nation also exists again because of end time events which will usher in the re-building of the temple and the advent of the Anti-Christ who will show himself to be God, and all who are alive and not saved will worship him as God. Daniel 9 is not vague, but if the math is done, it shows precisely when Jesus ministry began, and also tells us of the destruction of the temple which was carried out by Titus in 70AD, and you can forget about Nostradamus, he is not a prophet of God. And just because the wrath of God has not come, does not mean that it will not come.  There is a day of judgment coming.  I will just quote a few scriptures for you to ponder: Jesus stated: Quote Jhn 12:47   And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.   Jhn 12:48   He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day Quote 2Th 2:2   That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.   2Th 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;   2Th 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.   2Th 2:5   Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?   2Th 2:6   And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.   2Th 2:7   For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.   2Th 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:   2Th 2:9   [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,   2Th 2:10   And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.   2Th 2:11   And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:   2Th 2:12   That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Quote 2Pe 3:3   Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,   2Pe 3:4   And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.   2Pe 3:5   For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:   2Pe 3:6   Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:   2Pe 3:7   But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.   2Pe 3:8   But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.   2Pe 3:9   The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.   2Pe 3:10 ¶ But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.   Quote Rev 6:12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;   Rev 6:13   And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.   Rev 6:14   And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.   Rev 6:15   And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;   Rev 6:16   And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:   Rev 6:17   For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?   Quote Mat 24:15 ¶ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)   Mat 24:16   Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:   Mat 24:17   Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:   Mat 24:18   Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.   Mat 24:19   And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!   Mat 24:20   But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:   Mat 24:21   For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.   I hope that this is sufficient to convince you.  Personally, I don't want to be left behind when the Lord comes for the church. Love in Christ, Marty * Israel exists becuase of what happened in WWII, the Western nations set up Israel for them to protect them. Its just a nation like any other nation. When the OT was rewritten during the Babylonion captivity, the elite preist exagerated Hebrew history which helped to misslead the Jews th en and misslead Christinas now. * The antichrist is simply a spirit, that has been exagerated into more crazy fear based nonsence! Jesus alluded to false prophets and enimies of his gospel of love, nothing new. “but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.” * Jesus foretold that becuase he was rejected and killed the Jews lost their place. He told of the days of Gentile vengence, warning the apostles to get out. You see, the arrogant, self important Jews had baddly treated the Gentile world, people finally had enough of their crap and sacked Jerusalem. Now It's just a museaum to a broken promise. * Wrath will never come, thats a primative, man made idea for dealling with revenge. Whenever man self destructs, the loving God is there to take him in. No smashing and burning down things, no lakes of fire, God dosn't send plauges and bugs. Colter

Hi Colter:

Jesus has warned us that there will be “false prophets”, and the Apostle Paul states:

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Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Praying that God will reveal the truth to you.

Love in Christ,
Marty

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Quote (Colter @ July 23 2012,10:50) Quote (942767 @ July 23 2012,10:11) Hi Colter: That there are many Jews who do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah is true, but nation of Israel exists as a nation again since 1948 so that the gospel can be preached to them as a nation again prior to the return of the Messiah for the church, and the nation also exists again because of end time events which will usher in the re-building of the temple and the advent of the Anti-Christ who will show himself to be God, and all who are alive and not saved will worship him as God. Daniel 9 is not vague, but if the math is done, it shows precisely when Jesus ministry began, and also tells us of the destruction of the temple which was carried out by Titus in 70AD, and you can forget about Nostradamus, he is not a prophet of God. And just because the wrath of God has not come, does not mean that it will not come.  There is a day of judgment coming.  I will just quote a few scriptures for you to ponder: Jesus stated: Quote Jhn 12:47   And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.   Jhn 12:48   He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day Quote 2Th 2:2   That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.   2Th 2:3   Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;   2Th 2:4   Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.   2Th 2:5   Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?   2Th 2:6   And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.   2Th 2:7   For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.   2Th 2:8   And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:   2Th 2:9   [Even him], whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,   2Th 2:10   And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.   2Th 2:11   And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:   2Th 2:12   That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. Quote 2Pe 3:3   Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,   2Pe 3:4   And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as [they were] from the beginning of the creation.   2Pe 3:5   For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:   2Pe 3:6   Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:   2Pe 3:7   But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.   2Pe 3:8   But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.   2Pe 3:9   The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.   2Pe 3:10 ¶ But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.   Quote Rev 6:12 ¶ And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;   Rev 6:13   And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.   Rev 6:14   And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.   Rev 6:15   And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;   Rev 6:16   And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:   Rev 6:17   For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?   Quote Mat 24:15 ¶ When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)   Mat 24:16   Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:   Mat 24:17   Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:   Mat 24:18   Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.   Mat 24:19   And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!   Mat 24:20   But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:   Mat 24:21   For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.   I hope that this is sufficient to convince you.  Personally, I don't want to be left behind when the Lord comes for the church. Love in Christ, Marty * Israel exists becuase of what happened in WWII, the Western nations s et up Israel for them to protect them. Its just a nation like any other nation. When the OT was rewritten during the Babylonion captivity, the elite preist exagerated Hebrew history which helped to misslead the Jews then and misslead Christinas now. * The antichrist is simply a spirit, that has been exagerated into more crazy fear based nonsence! Jesus alluded to false prophets and enimies of his gospel of love, nothing new. “but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.” * Jesus foretold that becuase he was rejected and killed the Jews lost their place. He told of the days of Gentile vengence, warning the apostles to get out. You see, the arrogant, self important Jews had baddly treated the Gentile world, people finally had enough of their crap and sacked Jerusalem. Now It's just a museaum to a broken promise. * Wrath will never come, thats a primative, man made idea for dealling with revenge. Whenever man self destructs, the loving God is there to take him in. No smashing and burning down things, no lakes of fire, God dosn't send plauges and bugs. Colter Hi Colter: Jesus has warned us that there will be “false prophets”, and the Apostle Paul states: Quote Gal 1:8   But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.   Gal 1:9   As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.   Praying that God will reveal the truth to you. Love in Christ, Marty

That's “Paulanity”, I follow the spirit of the Father and Son, the original gospel. Jesus told us how to discern the false prophets.

Colter

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39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem.

39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind.

39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators—friction shields.

39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted.

39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision.

39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified.

39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence.

39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system.

Colter

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39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem. 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind. 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators—friction shields. 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted. 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision. 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified. 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence. 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. Colter

Hi Colter

Do you realise that the book of Urantia only tries to describe how things are operating. It does not offer any instructions in righteousness. We need those laws in the NT to learn how to conduct ourselves in every situation. These NT laws change the inner man, and show us how to conquer the sins of the flesh and straighten the heart with this spiritual knowledge given to us. Your book is so confusing. Our book is so simple and easy to remember. In our book, the words of Christ, and his apostles are written on our heart after we learn them. How could you possibly remember all that information from your book?
It's too busy. Too many chiefs and not enough indians!

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39:5.10 5. The Transporters. The planetary transporters serve the individual worlds. The majority of enseraphimed beings brought to this planet are in transit; they merely stop over; they are in custody of their own special seraphic transporters; but there are a large number of such seraphim stationed on Urantia. These are the transport personalities operating from the local planets, as from Urantia to Jerusem. 39:5.11 Your conventional idea of angels has been derived in the following way: During moments just prior to physical death a reflective phenomenon sometimes occurs in the human mind, and this dimming consciousness seems to visualize something of the form of the attending angel, and this is immediately translated into terms of the habitual concept of angels held in that individual’s mind. 39:5.12 The erroneous idea that angels possess wings is not wholly due to olden notions that they must have wings to fly through the air. Human beings have sometimes been permitted to observe seraphim that were being prepared for transport service, and the traditions of these experiences have largely determined the Urantian concept of angels. In observing a transport seraphim being made ready to receive a passenger for interplanetary transit, there may be seen what are apparently double sets of wings extending from the head to the foot of the angel. In reality these wings are energy insulators—friction shields. 39:5.13 When celestial beings are to be enseraphimed for transfer from one world to another, they are brought to the headquarters of the sphere and, after due registry, are inducted into the transit sleep. Meantime, the transport seraphim moves into a horizontal position immediately above the universe energy pole of the planet. While the energy shields are wide open, the sleeping personality is skillfully deposited, by the officiating seraphic assistants, directly on top of the transport angel. Then both the upper and lower pairs of shields are carefully closed and adjusted. 39:5.14 And now, under the influence of the transformers and the transmitters, a strange metamorphosis begins as the seraphim is made ready to swing into the energy currents of the universe circuits. To outward appearance the seraphim grows pointed at both extremities and becomes so enshrouded in a queer light of amber hue that very soon it is impossible to distinguish the enseraphimed personality. When all is in readiness for departure, the chief of transport makes the proper inspection of the carriage of life, carries out the routine tests to ascertain whether or not the angel is properly encircuited, and then announces that the traveler is properly enseraphimed, that the energies are adjusted, that the angel is insulated, and that everything is in readiness for the departing flash. The mechanical controllers, two of them, next take their positions. By this time the transport seraphim has become an almost transparent, vibrating, torpedo-shaped outline of glistening luminosity. Now the transport dispatcher of the realm summons the auxiliary batteries of the living energy transmitters, usually one thousand in number; as he announces the destination of the transport, he reaches out and touches the near point of the seraphic carriage, which shoots forward with lightninglike speed, leaving a trail of celestial luminosity as far as the planetary atmospheric investment extends. In less than ten minutes the marvelous spectacle will be lost even to reinforced seraphic vision. 39:5.15 While planetary space reports are received at noon at the meridian of the designated spiritual headquarters, the transporters are dispatched from this same place at midnight. That is the most favorable time for departure and is the standard hour when not otherwise specified. 39:5.16 6. The Recorders. These are the custodians of the major affairs of the planet as it functions as a part of the system, and as it is related to, and concerned in, the universe government. They function in the recording of planetary affairs but are not concerned with matters of individual life and existence. 39:5.17 7. The Reserves. The Satania reserve corps of the planetary seraphim is maintained on Jerusem in close association with the reserves of the Material Sons. These abundant reserves repletely provide for every phase of the manifold activities of this seraphic order. These angels are also the personal message bearers of the local systems. They serve transition mortals, angels, and the Material Sons as well as others domiciled on the system headquarters. While Urantia is, at present, outside the spiritual circuits of Satania and Norlatiadek, you are otherwise in intimate touch with interplanetary affairs, for these messengers from Jerusem frequently come to this world as to all the other spheres of the system. Colter

Colter.

Show us the part where it is teaching us to Love our neighbour. And how to forgive.And how to find God.
And to help the poor.And how to live a Godly life.
And how to worship only jehovah.

wakeup.

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Show us the part where it is teaching us to Love our neighbour. And how to forgive.And how to find God. And to help the poor.And how to live a Godly life. And how to worship only jehovah. wakeup.

Gosh, that's pretty much the whole book!  But you don't really want me to “show you” do you? You could start by reading part four, the entire life and teachings of Jesus.

The New Commandment

(1944.4) 180:1.1 After a few moments of informal conversation, Jesus stood up and said:“When I enacted for you a parable indicating how you should be willing to serve one another, I said that I desired to give you a new commandment; and I would do this now as I am about to leave you. You well know the commandment which directs that you love one another; that you love your neighbor even as yourself. But I am not wholly satisfied with even that sincere devotion on the part of my children. I would have you perform still greater acts of love in the kingdom of the believing brotherhood. And so I give you this new commandment: That you love one another even as I have loved you. And by this will all men know that you are my disciples if you thus love one another.

(1944.5) 180:1.2 “When I give you this new commandment, I do not place any new burden upon your souls; rather do I bring you new joy and make it possible for you to experience new pleasure in knowing the delights of the bestowal of your heart’s affection upon your fellow men. I am about to experience the supreme joy, even though enduring outward sorrow, in the bestowal of my affection upon you and your fellow mortals.

(1944.6) 180:1.3 “When I invite you to love one another, even as I have loved you, I hold up before you the supreme measure of true affection, for greater love can no man have than this: that he will lay down his life for his friends. And you are my friends; you will continue to be my friends if you are but willing to do what I have taught you. You have called me Master, but I do not call you servants. If you will only love one another as I am loving you, you shall be my friends, and I will ever speak to you of that which the Father reveals to me.

(1945.1) 180:1.4 “You have not merely chosen me, but I have also chosen you, and I have ordained you to go forth into the world to yield the fruit of loving service to your fellows even as I have lived among you and revealed the Father to you. The Father and I will both work with you, and you shall experience the divine fullness of joy if you will only obey my command to love one another, even as I have loved you.”

(1945.2) 180:1.5 If you would share the Master’s joy, you must share his love. And to share his love means that you have shared his service. Such an experience of love does not deliver you from the difficulties of this world; it does not create a new world, but it most certainly does make the old world new.

(1945.3) 180:1.6 Keep in mind: It is loyalty, not sacrifice, that Jesus demands. The consciousness of sacrifice implies the absence of that wholehearted affection which would have made such a loving service a supreme joy. The idea of duty signifies that you are servant-minded and hence are missing the mighty thrill of doing your service as a friend and for a friend. The impulse of friendship transcends all convictions of duty, and the service of a friend for a friend can never be called a sacrifice. The Master has taught the apostles that they are the sons of God. He has called them brethren, and now, before he leaves, he calls them his friends.

The Sermon on Forgiveness

(1762.3) 159:1.1 One evening at Hippos, in answer to a disciple’s question, Jesus taught the lesson on forgiveness. Said the Master:

(1762.4) 159:1.2“If a kindhearted man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, does he not immediately leave the ninety and nine and go out in search of the one that has gone astray? And if he is a good shepherd, will he not keep up his quest for the lost sheep until he finds it? And then, when the shepherd has found his lost sheep, he lays it over his shoulder and, going home rejoicing, calls to his friends and neighbors, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’ I declare that there is more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety and nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Even so, it is not the will of my Father in heaven that one of these little ones should go astray, much less that they should perish. In your religion God may receive repentant sinners; in the gospel of the kingdom the Father goes forth to find them even before they have seriously thought of repentance.

(1762.5) 159:1.3 “The Father in heaven loves his children, and therefore should you learn to love one another; the Father in heaven forgives you your sins; therefore should you learn to forgive one another. If your brother sins against you, go to him and with tact and patience show him his fault. And do all this between you and him alone. If he will listen to you, then have you won your brother. But if your brother will not hear you, if he persists in the error of his way, go again to him, taking with you one or two mutual friends that you may thus have two or even three witnesses to confirm your testimony and establish the fact that you have dealt justly and mercifully with your offending brother. Now if he refuses to hear your brethren, you may tell the whole story to the congregation, and then, if he refuses to hear the brotherhood, let them take such action as they deem wise; let such an unruly member become an outcast from the kingdom. While you cannot pretend to sit in judgment on the souls of your fellows, and while you may not forgive sins or otherwise presume to usurp the prerogatives of the supervisors of the heavenly hosts, at the same time, it has been committed to your hands that you should maintain temporal order in the kingdom on earth. While you may not meddle with the divine decrees concerning eternal life, you shall determine the issues of conduct as they concern the temporal welfare of the brotherhood on earth. And so, in all these matters connected with the discipline of the brotherhood, whatsoever you shall decree on earth, shall be recognized in heaven. Although you cannot determine the eternal fate of the individual, you may legislate regarding the conduct of the group, for, where two or three of you agree concerning any of these things and ask of me, it shall be done for you if your petition is not inconsistent with the will of my Father in heaven. And all this is ever true, for, where two or three believers are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them.”

(1763.1) 159:1.4Simon Peter was the apostle in charge of the workers at Hippos, and when he heard Jesus thus speak, he asked: “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times?” And Jesus answered Peter: “Not only seven times but even to seventy times and seven. Therefore may the kingdom of heaven be likened to a certain king who ordered a financial reckoning with his stewards. And when they had begun to conduct this examination of accounts, one of his chief retainers was brought before him confessing that he owed his king ten thousand talents. Now this officer of the king’s court pleaded that hard times had come upon him, and that he did not have wherewith to pay this obligation. And so the king commanded that his property be confiscated, and that his children be sold to pay his debt. When this chief steward heard this stern decree, he fell down on his face before the king and implored him to
have mercy and grant him more time, saying, ‘Lord, have a little more patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ And when the king looked upon this negligent servant and his family, he was moved with compassion. He ordered that he should be released, and that the loan should be wholly forgiven.

(1763.2) 159:1.5 “And this chief steward, having thus received mercy and forgiveness at the hands of the king, went about his business, and finding one of his subordinate stewards who owed him a mere hundred denarii, he laid hold upon him and, taking him by the throat, said, ‘Pay me all you owe.’ And then did this fellow steward fall down before the chief steward and, beseeching him, said: ‘Only have patience with me, and I will presently be able to pay you.’ But the chief steward would not show mercy to his fellow steward but rather had him cast in prison until he should pay his debt. When his fellow servants saw what had happened, they were so distressed that they went and told their lord and master, the king. When the king heard of the doings of his chief steward, he called this ungrateful and unforgiving man before him and said: ‘You are a wicked and unworthy steward. When you sought for compassion, I freely forgave you your entire debt. Why did you not also show mercy to your fellow steward, even as I showed mercy to you?’ And the king was so very angry that he delivered his ungrateful chief steward to the jailers that they might hold him until he had paid all that was due. And even so shall my heavenly Father show the more abundant mercy to those who freely show mercy to their fellows. How can you come to God asking consideration for your shortcomings when you are wont to chastise your brethren for being guilty of these same human frailties? I say to all of you: Freely you have received the good things of the kingdom; therefore freely give to your fellows on earth.”

(1764.1) 159:1.6 Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one’s fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail. Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the group, not in the individual. Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance.

(1764.2) 159:1.7 [The use of the term seventy-seven as an illustration of mercy and forbearance was derived from the Scriptures referring to Lamech’s exultation because of the metal weapons of his son Tubal-Cain, who, comparing these superior instruments with those of his enemies, exclaimed: “If Cain, with no weapon in his hand, was avenged seven times, I shall now be avenged seventy-seven.”]

As for Jehovah that's a recent term adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect. Gods name is not known.

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Hi Colter Do you realise that the book of Urantia only tries to describe how things are operating. It does not offer any instructions in righteousness. We need those laws in the NT to learn how to conduct ourselves in every situation. These NT laws change the inner man, and show us how to conquer the sins of the flesh and straighten the heart with this spiritual knowledge given to us. Your book is so confusing. Our book is so simple and easy to remember. In our book, the words of Christ, and his apostles are written on our heart after we learn them. How could you possibly remember all that information from your book? It's too busy. Too many chiefs and not enough indians!

If you ever atually read the book that you disagree with you will see how silly the above post is.

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Quote Show us the part where it is teaching us to Love our neighbour. And how to forgive.And how to find God. And to help the poor.And how to live a Godly life. And how to worship only jehovah. wakeup. Gosh, that's pretty much the whole book!  But you don't really want me to “show you” do you? You could start by reading part four, the entire life and teachings of Jesus. The New Commandment (1944.4) 180:1.1 After a few moments of informal conversation, Jesus stood up and said:“When I enacted for you a parable indicating how you should be willing to serve one another, I said that I desired to give you a new commandment; and I would do this now as I am about to leave you. You well know the commandment which directs that you love one another; that you love your neighbor even as yourself. But I am not wholly satisfied with even that sincere devotion on the part of my children. I would have you perform still greater acts of love in the kingdom of the believing brotherhood. And so I give you this new commandment: That you love one another even as I have loved you. And by this will all men know that you are my disciples if you thus love one another. (1944.5) 180:1.2 “When I give you this new commandment, I do not place any new burden upon your souls; rather do I bring you new joy and make it possible for you to experience new pleasure in knowing the delights of the bestowal of your heart’s affection upon your fellow men. I am about to experience the supreme joy, even though enduring outward sorrow, in the bestowal of my affection upon you and your fellow mortals. (1944.6) 180:1.3 “When I invite you to love one another, even as I have loved you, I hold up before you the supreme measure of true affection, for greater love can no man have than this: that he will lay down his life for his friends. And you are my friends; you will continue to be my friends if you are but willing to do what I have taught you. You have called me Master, but I do not call you servants. If you will only love one another as I am loving you, you shall be my friends, and I will ever speak to you of that which the Father reveals to me. (1945.1) 180:1.4 “You have not merely chosen me, but I have also chosen you, and I have ordained you to go forth into the world to yield the fruit of loving service to your fellows even as I have lived among you and revealed the Father to you. The Father and I will both work with you, and you shall experience the divine fullness of joy if you will only obey my command to love one another, even as I have loved you.” (1945.2) 180:1.5 If you would share the Master’s joy, you must share his love. And to share his love means that you have shared his service. Such an experience of love does not deliver you from the difficulties of this world; it does not create a new world, but it most certainly does make the old world new. (1945.3) 180:1.6 Keep in mind: It is loyalty, not sacrifice, that Jesus demands. The consciousness of sacrifice implies the absence of that wholehearted affection which would have made such a loving service a supreme joy. The idea of duty signifies that you are servant-minded and hence are missing the mighty thrill of doing your service as a friend and for a friend. The impulse of friendship transcends all convictions of duty, and the service of a friend for a friend can never be called a sacrifice. The Master has taught the apostles that they are the sons of God. He has called them brethren, and now, before he leaves, he calls them his friends. The Sermon on Forgiveness (1762.3) 159:1.1 One evening at Hippos, in answer to a disciple’s question, Jesus taught the lesson on forgiveness. Said the Master: (1762.4) 159:1.2“If a kindhearted man has a hundred sheep and one of them goes astray, does he not immediately leave the ninety and nine and go out in search of the one that has gone astray? And if he is a good shepherd, will he not keep up his quest for the lost sheep until he finds it? And then, when the shepherd has found his lost sheep, he lays it over his shoulder and, going home rejoicing, calls to his friends and neighbors, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’ I declare that there is more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety and nine righteous persons who need no repentance. Even so, it is not the will of my Father in heaven that one of these little ones should go astray, much less that they should perish. In your religion God may receive repentant sinners; in the gospel of the kingdom the Father goes forth to find them even before they have seriously thought of repentance. (1762.5) 159:1.3 “The Father in heaven loves his children, and therefore should you learn to love one another; the Father in heaven forgives you your sins; therefore should you learn to forgive one another. If your brother sins against you, go to him and with tact and patience show him his fault. And do all this between you and him alone. If he will listen to you, then have you won your brother. But if your brother will not hear you, if he persists in the error of his way, go again to him, taking with you one or two mutual friends that you may thus have two or even three witnesses to confirm your testimony and establish the fact that you have dealt justly and mercifully with your offending brother. Now if he refuses to hear your brethren, you may tell the whole story to the congregation, and then, if he refuses to hear the brotherhood, let them take such action as they deem wise; let such an unruly member become an outcast from the kingdom. While you cannot pretend to sit in judgment on the souls of your fellows, and while you may not forgive sins or otherwise presume to usurp the prerogatives of the supervisors of the heavenly hosts, at the same time, it has been committed to your hands that you should maintain temporal order in the kingdom on earth. While you may not meddle with the divine decrees concerning eternal life, you shall determine the issues of conduct as they concern the temporal welfare of the brotherhood on earth. And so, in all these matters connected with the discipline of the brotherhood, whatsoever you shall decree on earth, shall be recognized in heaven. Although you cannot determine the eternal fate of the individual, you may legislate regarding the conduct of the group, for, where two or three of you agree concerning any of these things and ask of me, it shall be done for you if your petition is not inconsistent with the will of my Father in heaven. And all this is ever true, for, where two or three believers are gathered together, there am I in the midst of them.” (1763.1) 159:1.4Simon Peter was the apostle in charge of the workers at Hippos, and when he heard Jesus thus speak, he asked: “Lord, how often shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Until seven times?” And Jesus answered Peter: “Not only seven times but even to seventy times and seven. Therefore may the kingdom of heaven be likened to a certain king who ordered a financial reckoning with his stewards. And when they had begun to conduct this examination of accounts, one of his chief retainers was brought before him confessing that he owed his king ten thousand talents. Now this officer of the king’s court pleaded that hard times had come upon him, and that he did not have wherewith to pay this obligation. And so the king commanded that his property be confiscated, and that his children be sold to pay his debt. When this chief steward heard this stern decree, he fell down on his face before the king and implored him to have mercy and grant him more time, saying, ‘Lord, have a little more patience with me, and I will pay you all.’ And when the king looked upon this negligent servant and his family, he was moved with compassion. He ordered that he should be released, and that the loan should be wholly forgiven. (1763.2) 159:1.5 “And this chief steward, having thus received mercy and forgiveness at the hands of the king, went about his business, and finding one of his subordinate stewards who owed him a mere hundred denarii, he laid hold upon him and, taking him by the throat, said, ‘Pay me all you owe.’ And then did this fellow steward fall down before the chief steward and, beseeching him, said: ‘Only have patience with me, and I will presently be able to pay you.’ But the chief steward would not show mercy to his fellow steward but rather had him cast in prison until he should pay his debt. When his fellow servants saw what had happened, they were so distressed that they went and told their lord and master, the king. When the king heard of the doings of his chief steward, he called this ungrateful and unforgiving man before him and said: ‘You are a wicked and unworthy steward. When you sought for compassion, I freely forgave you your entire debt. Why did you not also show mercy to your fellow steward, even as I showed mercy to you?’ And the king was so very angry that he delivered his ungrateful chief steward to the jailers that they might hold him until he had paid all that was due. And even so shall my heavenly Father show the more abundant mercy to those who freely show mercy to their fellows. How can you come to God asking consideration for your shortcomings when you are wont to chastise your brethren for being guilty of these same human frailties? I say to all of you: Freely you have received the good things of the kingdom; therefore freely give to your fellows on earth.” (1764.1) 159:1.6 Thus did Jesus teach the dangers and illustrate the unfairness of sitting in personal judgment upon one’s fellows. Discipline must be maintained, justice must be administered, but in all these matters the wisdom of the brotherhood should prevail. Jesus invested legislative and judicial authority in the group, not in the individual. Even this investment of authority in the group must not be exercised as personal authority. There is always danger that the verdict of an individual may be warped by prejudice or distorted by passion. Group judgment is more likely to remove the dangers and eliminate the unfairness of personal bias. Jesus sought always to minimize the elements of unfairness, retaliation, and vengeance. (1764.2) 159:1.7 [The use of the term seventy-seven as an illustration of mercy and forbearance was derived from the Scriptures referring to Lamech’s exultation because of the metal weapons of his son Tubal-Cain, who, comparing these superior instruments with those of his enemies, exclaimed: “If Cain, with no weapon in his hand, was avenged seven times, I shall now be avenged seventy-seven.”] As for Jehovah that's a recent term adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect. Gods name is not known. Colter

Colter .

I did not asked you to quote Jesus,but what the urantia says.
Any book can apply Jesus wordsto it,that does not mean that we can trust that book.As the book of mormon also.

I know for shure that Jesus never mentioned an other book,but the ones written by the prophets and the apostles.

Because the core of the teachings is contradictory to the scriptures.Such as Jesus is micha'el.this is error.
This can only mean that it is preaching another Jesus,and another gospel.

Remember these words: Gal.1:8. But though we; or an angel from heaven,preach any other gospel unto you than WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED.

Our rock foundation is the holy book and none other.

You started with studying the U.B. and therefore you can not understand the depth of the scriptures.
For it is very deep indeed.

wakeup.

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As for Jehovah that's a recent term adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect. Gods name is not known.

The name “Jehovah” has been used LONG before there existed the group known as “Jehovah's Witnesses”.

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Colter . I did not asked you to quote Jesus,but what the urantia says. Any book can apply Jesus wordsto it,that does not mean that we can trust that book.As the book of mormon also. I know for shure that Jesus never mentioned an other book,but the ones written by the prophets and the apostles. Because the core of the teachings is contradictory to the scriptures.Such as Jesus is micha'el.this is error. This can only mean that it is preaching another Jesus,and another gospel. Remember these words: Gal.1:8. But though we; or an angel from heaven,preach any other gospel unto you than WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED. Our rock foundation is the holy book and none other. You started with studying the U.B. and therefore you can not understand the depth of the scriptures. For it is very deep indeed. wakeup.

* Jesus never mentioned books by the apostles.

* The core of Jesus teaching in the Bible is contradictory to Paul's Pagan blood sacrifice religion of Christianity.

* Truth is known by it's fruits, not authoritarianism.

* Magic spells and curses don't exist.

Colter

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Oh, and btw, this “sect” also teaches that Jesus is Michael – JUST LIKE YOU DO.

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Quote (Colter @ July 29 2012,09:12) As for Jehovah that's a recent term adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect. Gods name is not known. The name “Jehovah” has been used LONG before there existed the group known as “Jehovah's Witnesses”.

……..”adopted by the Jehovah's witness sect”.

Colter

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Oh, and btw, this “sect” also teaches that Jesus is Michael – JUST LIKE YOU DO.

Yes, I'm aware of that. The olden idea likely came from The Book of Enoch, which used to be considered an “inspired” book in the Bible but was removed and un-inspired by the “inspierers” of the church.

Colter

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Quote Colter . I did not asked you to quote Jesus,but what the urantia says. Any book can apply Jesus wordsto it,that does not mean that we can trust that book.As the book of mormon also. I know for shure that Jesus never mentioned an other book,but the ones written by the prophets and the apostles. Because the core of the teachings is contradictory to the scriptures.Such as Jesus is micha'el.this is error. This can only mean that it is preaching another Jesus,and another gospel. Remember these words: Gal.1:8. But though we; or an angel from heaven,preach any other gospel unto you than WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED. Our rock foundation is the holy book and none other. You started with studying the U.B. and therefore you can not understand the depth of the scriptures. For it is very deep indeed. wakeup. * Jesus never mentioned books by the apostles. * The core of Jesus teaching in the Bible is contradictory to Paul's Pagan blood sacrifice religion of Christianity. * Truth is known by it's fruits, not authoritarianism. * Magic spells and curses don't exist. Colter

Colter.

Yes he did: he says ''THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD FOR A WITNESS.

NOT THE U,B.FOR A WITNESS.?

Paul is a great apostle; he could not be a false teacher after he saw,and heard Jesus say to him '' saul, saul why do you persecute me? He wrote most of the gospels,and he is in charge to preach to the gentiles,for he is an intelect multi lingual.

wakeup.

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Quote (Colter @ July 30 2012,05:09) Quote Colter . I did not asked you to quote Jesus,but what the urantia says. Any book can apply Jesus wordsto it,that does not mean that we can trust that book.As the book of mormon also. I know for shure that Jesus never mentioned an other book,but the ones written by the prophets and the apostles. Because the core of the teachings is contradictory to the scriptures.Such as Jesus is micha'el.this is error. This can only mean that it is preaching another Jesus,and another gospel. Remember these words: Gal.1:8. But though we; or an angel from heaven,preach any other gospel unto you than WHICH WE HAVE PREACHED UNTO YOU,LET HIM BE ACCURSED. Our rock foundation is the holy book and none other. You started with studying the U.B. and therefore you can not understand the depth of the scriptures. For it is very deep indeed. wakeup. * Jesus never mentioned books by the apostles. * The core of Jesus teaching in the Bible is contradictory to Paul's Pagan blood sacrifice religion of Christianity. * Truth is known by it's fruits, not authoritarianism. * Magic spells and curses don't exist. Colter Colter. Yes he did: he says ''THIS GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM SHALL BE PREACHED IN ALL THE WORLD FOR A WITNESS. NOT THE U,B.FOR A WITNESS.? Paul is a great apostle; he could not be a false teacher after he saw,and heard Jesus say to him '' saul, saul why do you persecute me? He wrote most of the gospels,and he is in charge to preach to the gentiles,for he is an intelect multi lingual. wakeup.

Wakeup, you don't seem to understand, you had said:

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I know for shure that Jesus never mentioned an other book,but the ones written by the prophets and the apostles.

Jesus didn't mention the NT books either, people began writing them 50+ years after Jesus left, after Paul barged in with a new gospel.

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Paul is a great apostle; he could not be a false teacher after he saw,and heard Jesus say to him '' saul, saul why do you persecute me? He wrote most of the gospels,and he is in charge to preach to the gentiles,for he is an intelect multi lingual.

Jesus chose twelve others while on the earth, Paul was just the first great evangelist,he influenced the message at a time when the Christian church and theology was forming.

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