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Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,13:30) Love without wisdom cannot do anything, nor wisdom without love; for love without wisdom, or the will without the understanding, cannot form a single thought. Indeed, it cannot see, perceive, or say anything; therefore it cannot do anything. What is the true spirit, is the spirit with you at all times, or only when needed. Intellect is another word for knowledge or you could also say wisdom, what leads us to better understanding. I believe that to be in the book of david or solomon.
It seems that most are still staying at the carnal level and not reaching a spiritual level. It is of no wonder though, our minds are compelled to stay with what we can touch, smell and hear, a so called comfort zone. The urge of these keeps us still and content.
Even though at times Gene goes beyond me there are some things that he is spot on about. One does not go astray from truth by anothers hand, the individual themselves leads their path either you love or you don't, either you seek or you don't either you ask or you don't. Quite basic if you really think about it.
Christianity has somewhat of a communal mind, or other words unity out of diversity. Which is an oxymoron in itself. Which the triads seem to thrive on this communal mind. Indeed, we must be aware of such matters, know they are there, understand that they do not disappear, love just the same, be wise enough not to listen to their folly, who wants to be lead into a pit, there is no way out.
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LUlet see education ,schooling .university,diplomas and more,
being the best in what you do,be famous for something,be recognize by your elders,and so on,even know the bible word for word ,
would any of this qualify you in the kingdom of God ??what about an IQ 230,would it ??
NO, God scale is not with men's rules,none of the above supply humbleness,
none of the above supply the love for God,
none of the above supply the righteousness of God,
none of the above supply the truth of God,
none of the above supply the understanding of God word,
none of the above supply the way to the small door,only to the big door,
none of the above supply forgiveness for our sins,
none of the above supply everlasting live,
none of the above supply the favor of God,
none of the above supply the richness of the kingdom of God,
none of the above supply the freedom of wickedness,
none of the above supply the freedom of dead,
none of the above supply the wisdom who gives live,the only thing the above supply are carnal need and emotion contents,and supply food for the ego,pride,sins,wickedness,ect.
Gods teachings are for live everlasting,
men teachings are temporary and have to be up graded all the time,the reason is they do not know were they going.
look at truth;men in the past have to change most of there history,sciences,morals,politics,ect;
God on the other hand ,never change not a grain of sand.it was good 6000 years ago and will be good in a million years.
this is my father;Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman.
Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
hi
2Ti 3:1 But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days.
2Ti 3:2 People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
2Ti 3:3 without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good,
2Ti 3:4 treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God—
2Ti 3:5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.
2Ti 3:6 They are the kind who worm their way into homes and gain control over weak-willed women, who are loaded down with sins and are swayed by all kinds of evil desires,
2Ti 3:7 always learning but never able to acknowledge the truth.
2Ti 3:8 Just as Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so also these men oppose the truth—men of depraved minds, who, as far as the faith is concerned, are rejected.
2Ti 3:9 But they will not get very far because, as in the case of those men, their folly will be clear to everyone2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless, God’s solid foundation stands firm, sealed with this inscription: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Everyone who confesses the name of the Lord must turn away from wickedness.”
2Ti 2:20 In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble.
2Ti 2:21 If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work.
2Ti 2:22 Flee the evil desires of youth, and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.2Ti 2:7 Reflect on what I am saying, for the Lord will give you insight into all this.
2Ti 2:8 Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my gospel,
1Ti 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain.
1Ti 6:7 For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it.terraricca,
You might want to reconsider how you are choosing your words as all good things come from God and an education is a good thing so should not be condemned. It is true that it does not give you the holy spirit to be educated in the seen world and how God designed it. I am not even sure how useful such knowledge will be in the next world. What I do know is such knowledge can be used in service to God at the current time.
The point I believe you are attempting to make is that you should not make such knowledge your God by placing it before the good news of the kingdom of heaven. Idolatry is evil and I am sure you will find that Princess of the King agrees with you on this.
Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2010,08:45) terraricca, You might want to reconsider how you are choosing your words as all good things come from God and an education is a good thing so should not be condemned. It is true that it does not give you the holy spirit to be educated in the seen world and how God designed it. I am not even sure how useful such knowledge will be in the next world. What I do know is such knowledge can be used in service to God at the current time.
The point I believe you are attempting to make is that you should not make such knowledge your God by placing it before the good news of the kingdom of heaven. Idolatry is evil and I am sure you will find that Princess of the King agrees with you on this.
KWyou right that is what i intend to show,like you say all ting can be use by God for his glory,not our personal glory.
this war of words and language is not in God s glory,
some men try to take advantage over the others with this and that is sinful .Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
PoKdo you know why Paul said ;1Ti 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
Hi Princess of the king,Luke 7:35 …wisdom is justified of all her children.
God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,11:30) Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
PoKdo you know why Paul said ;1Ti 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
Does that mean that a woman that is baren is doomed to hell?I think that Paul was actually referencing the punishment placed on women due to the sin of Eve.
I am not sure how it relates to what he was teaching.
Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2010,18:26) Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,11:30) Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
PoKdo you know why Paul said ;1Ti 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
Does that mean that a woman that is baren is doomed to hell?I think that Paul was actually referencing the punishment placed on women due to the sin of Eve.
I am not sure how it relates to what he was teaching.
KWthe truth is that Jesus is our example of devotion to God,so is Paul,and all the righteous ,
so devotion of oneselve to someonelse in the name of God is righteous works.
now a real devoded mother is what??,is a women who as children ,new live trough her,this is were true devotion is applied ,by renoncing to her selve and devote her selve to the new live to rease them up in the Lord way ,by teaching them to be lover of righteousness,(see Timoty Mother,grant Mother,Samuel mother,and many others)and seeking Gods way .and this is how they get saved ,because they fruits are good ,for what they have given is for the glory of God and Christ,
this is how you produce a offspring to the Lord.
Mal 2:15 Has not the LORD made them one? In flesh and spirit they are his. And why one? Because he was seeking godly offspring. So guard yourself in your spirit, and do not break faith with the wife of your youth.
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KWyou right that is what i intend to show,like you say all ting can be use by God for his glory,not our personal glory.
this war of words and language is not in God s glory,
some men try to take advantage over the others with this and that is sinful .
terraricca………Tell us does this apply to you also? Should you not also apply this to yourself to.peace and love ………………gene
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ April 09 2010,02:44) Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,16:24) [
KWyou right that is what i intend to show,like you say all ting can be use by God for his glory,not our personal glory.
this war of words and language is not in God s glory,
some men try to take advantage over the others with this and that is sinful .
terraricca………Tell us does this apply to you also? Should you not also apply this to yourself to.peace and love ………………gene
hi genein deed it does ,but i have a fire in my heart wen i see abusive and misdirection from those who professed to be teachers of God and are not.
i am not a pastor,or a leader in a congregation,but i am not blind,and do have some knowledge of Gods will and truth.
and you gene??
Quote (kerwin @ April 08 2010,08:45) terraricca, Idolatry is evil and I am sure you will find that Princess of the King agrees with you on this.
KWAs as such, Kerwin. Tearing down the strongholds, being shown, is a bitterment, heartbreaking. Never the less, it is needed.
Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,16:30) Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
PoKdo you know why Paul said ;1Ti 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
One is accountable for their own.I do not teach my child to save my own. That is not the way, to think such is folly.
A bride to be once asked me to copy a few of my dishes she liked, she was not very skillful in the ways of cooking, she insisted that I be very specific in measurements, ingredients ect. and so forth. At the very end of the recipes, I added this, in every dish that you make add your love to it.
In everything we do, if we do not love then it is of no use to the Divine. Most can follow directions either written or verbal, if you do not love what you do, then it will be tasteless. No matter how much salt you add.
Quote (princess of the king @ April 09 2010,14:16) Quote (terraricca @ April 08 2010,16:30) Quote (princess of the king @ April 07 2010,22:48) Some place a gender on their god. Which in turn causes belief by secular standards, man is the head, women is the next, so on and so forth, so their god must be male, as the triads do also, their deity is male gender. Which is not surprising, since the early church fathers established such ways, women at one time were considered evil, due to a man's lust, women were kept under control so to speak. How could a women be filled with wisdom and spirit, when she was created from man whom the original sin came from. Quite the bore is it not, for a women to submit like a dog to man, to allow a man to teach a woman how to be a woman. Wisdom of truth provides all you listed, by your own hand you stand that education is wisdom. Which is not the wisdom of truth.
Some women have a tendency to replace their earthly father and what he should have provided, with their heavenly father. Be careful of this, it is one matter that all women should resolve.
PoKdo you know why Paul said ;1Ti 2:15 But women will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety
One is accountable for their own.I do not teach my child to save my own. That is not the way, to think such is folly.
A bride to be once asked me to copy a few of my dishes she liked, she was not very skillful in the ways of cooking, she insisted that I be very specific in measurements, ingredients ect. and so forth. At the very end of the recipes, I added this, in every dish that you make add your love to it.
In everything we do, if we do not love then it is of no use to the Divine. Most can follow directions either written or verbal, if you do not love what you do, then it will be tasteless. No matter how much salt you add.
POKyou say;;I do not teach my child to save my own. That is not the way, to think such is folly.
doing it in that purpose is folly,
but doing it because they are Gods children ,they are not yours that is a false beleive.we are the costodians of our children.all things belong to God,even the people you meet on the street ,at work,we all belong to God ,but we all do not want recognise our father in heaven,
and having love for God will only be seen if you apply that love (deeds of the faith)
wen we have love we do not expect anything in return,our father in heaven will give us our reward.
love is never selve rewarding .
Hi KW,
Till we die and our spirit returns to God[Ecc12] it abides with the Spirit of God in us [Rom 8.16]IF we have been reborn from above. The NEW SPIRIT is the Spirit of God and after death those in Christ live eternally BY that Spirit.Nick,
I agree the new and righteousn spirit leads to eternal life.
Here are a couple of scriptures that mention the spirit of prostitution that you can consider.
Hosea 4:12 and Hosea 5:4
Isn't a spirit of prostitution an unclean spirit?
Hi KW,
There are many unclean spirits that can occupy men.
Jesus drove them out but warned they may returnNick,
Jesus drove demons out. Do you think Hosea is speaking of demons.
I did not think so but perhaps hearing your view may give me some insight I do not have without it.
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