The Trinity of The Urantia Revelation

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  • #371945
    GeneBalthrop
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    Mike………..Are you telling us you and Colter make a Match Brother. Follow him and you will really see what “gymnastics and rationalizations” of the “Urantia Revelations” are all about that is for sure.
    Colter has no idea what he is saying or talking about, if anything he is the most deceived person here IMO, Just Because he goes against me and others here why should you be so quick to jump on his band wagon ? Utilizing what others say about someone to help position yourself to the discredit others is not the way to be MIKE> IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………………………………………………gene

    #371946
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 15 2012,03:43)
    Wakeup………Why a “BOTTOMLESS” Pit?  The answer to that question will explain what a Satan (IS) . Remember the word “bottomless” means there is no end to (IT)> The term Satan is a term for an Evil Adversarial  “Spirit”  and becasue it is SPIRIT it can not Die but  (IT) be contained By GOD, And the reason it is portrayed in a “Bottomless” Pit is because there is not end to Evil existence (it) must be Mastered by the Spirit of GOD,  Good and Evil are both endless there is no end to either as long as there is life, Symbolism confuses man Wakeup. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours Wakeup………………………………………………………….gene


    Gene B.

    The beast that was, and is not, and yet is,he is the eight and will come out of the 7th ,and shall come out of the bottomless pit.
    Can you figure this one out? no you cant.

    The bottomless pit is satans mind;his thinking,his philosophy.
    The tower of babel (WAS) was satans idea,and that was stopped by God;(IS NOT) but is not killed, but preserved in satans mind(YET IS).
    And he will come out of the bottomless pit; satan will bring out his idea to life again. This world is working towards this today.

    wakeup.

    #371947
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make sens

    #371948
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter

    #371949
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter


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    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    but I am not brainwashed and I am not someone that trys to bring his own views into scriptures but bring out of scriptures what others do not see,

    big difference.

    you on the other hand seek indulgence to bring the UB into power and so leave the scriptures and declare them weak and less complete,

    sorry no sale ,I do not buy JUNK

    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible

    #371950
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,06:58)

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter


    Quote
    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    but I am not brainwashed and I am not someone that trys to bring his own views into scriptures but bring out of scriptures what others do not see,

    big difference.

    you on the other hand seek indulgence to bring the UB into power and so leave the scriptures and declare them weak and less complete,

    sorry no sale ,I do not buy JUNK

    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible


    Quote
    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible

    You know a lot about the devil, where did your learn that the divil quotes the Bible????

    Show me in the Bible[/B] where the devil has quoted the Bible.

    Colter

    #371951
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,06:58)

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter


    Quote
    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    but I am not brainwashed and I am not someone that trys to bring his own views into scriptures but bring out of scriptures what others do not see,

    big difference.

    you on the other hand seek indulgence to bring the UB into power and so leave the scriptures and declare them weak and less complete,

    sorry no sale ,I do not buy JUNK

    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible


    Quote
    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible

    You know a lot about the devil, where did your learn that the divil quotes the Bible????

    Show me in the Bible where the devil has quoted the Bible.

    Colter

    #371952
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,14:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,06:58)

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter


    Quote
    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    but I am not brainwashed and I am not someone that trys to bring his own views into scriptures but bring out of scriptures what others do not see,

    big difference.

    you on the other hand seek indulgence to bring the UB into power and so leave the scriptures and declare them weak and less complete,

    sorry no sale ,I do not buy JUNK

    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible


    Quote
    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible

    You know a lot about the devil, where did your learn that the divil quotes the Bible????

    Show me in the Bible[/B] where the devil has quoted the Bible.

    Colter


    MT 4:5 Then the devil *took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,
    MT 4:6 and *said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
    ‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’; and
    ‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
    SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’ ”
    MT 4:7 Jesus said to him, “ On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’ ”

    #371953
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,08:42)

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,14:08)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,06:58)

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,10:10)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 17 2012,02:59)

    Quote (Colter @ July 16 2012,13:27)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 16 2012,00:35)

    Quote (Colter @ July 14 2012,08:17)

    Quote (terraricca @ July 14 2012,00:25)
    do you think the devil should know ???


    The devil is dead, he never was the God of this world, there is only one God.

    Colter


    colter

    yeah ,you are one of his servants ,Satan likes to work in the dark places ,undercover ,slimmy way,the father of lies,and so is best defence ,is “tell everyone that He does not exist “

    two ways exist ;the truth of God found in the scriptures.
           and              ; the lies of Satan found in men that reject the truth of God.

    no doubt were you stand,right


    Jesus knows what it is like to be so hated, they said all these mean things about him as well.

    Colter


    Colter

    Do not let your ego believe that you are like Jesus ,you deny him,

    You are funny with your UB. That not make  sens


    I don't deny Jesus, I deny book worship idolatry.

    Jesus himself spoke to those of us who defend his religion of Love and forgiveness.

    “Happy are they who are persecuted for righteousness’ sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Happy are you when men shall revile you and persecute you and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven.”

    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    Colter


    Quote
    Based on your arguments, had you been a scripture bound Jew, then you would have rejected Jesus because you have been brainwashed not to think for yourself.

    but I am not brainwashed and I am not someone that trys to bring his own views into scriptures but bring out of scriptures what others do not see,

    big difference.

    you on the other hand seek indulgence to bring the UB into power and so leave the scriptures and declare them weak and less complete,

    sorry no sale ,I do not buy JUNK

    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible


    Quote
    P.S.;the devil also quotes the bible

    You know a lot about the devil, where did your learn that the divil quotes the Bible????

    Show me in the Bible[/B] where the devil has quoted the Bible.

    Colter


    MT 4:5 Then the devil *took Him into the holy city and had Him stand on the pinnacle of the temple,
    MT 4:6 and *said to Him, “If You are the Son of God, throw Yourself down; for it is written,
    ‘HE WILL COMMAND HIS ANGELS CONCERNING YOU’; and
    ‘ON their HANDS THEY WILL BEAR YOU UP,
    SO THAT YOU WILL NOT STRIKE YOUR FOOT AGAINST A STONE.’ ”
    MT 4:7 Jesus said to him, “ On the other hand, it is written, ‘YOU SHALL NOT PUT THE LORD YOUR GOD TO THE TEST.’ ”


    That's a fair reply.

    I don't think Satan ever had the power to take Jesus around and do these things, Jesus never gave a sermon about what he was doing during the 40 days in the Bible.

    Satan: “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.”

    So there is really 2 Gods?

    Colter

    #371954
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ July 17 2012,02:45)
    Gene B.

    The beast that was, and is not, and yet is,he is the eight and will come out of the 7th ,and shall come out of the bottomless pit.
    Can you figure this one out? no you cant.

    wakeup.


    Hi Wakeup,

    I have. (Link)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #371955
    942767
    Participant

    Quote
    1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

    Love in Christ,
    Marty

    #371956
    Spock
    Participant

    There is soooooo much Faith in Satan here?

    #371957
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Colter @ July 17 2012,18:20)
    There is soooooo much Faith in Satan here?


    AND YOU ARE HELPING TO PUT IT HERE

    #371958
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    To All………….Colter “accused” us of worshiping our Bible but He worships his “Urantia Revelation” garbage , talking about the Pot calling the Kettle Black. He presents himself as an accuser of the Brethern which best matches the description of you know who.

    peace and love to you all……………………………………………………………..gene

    #371959
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 18 2012,01:28)
    To All………….Colter “accused” us of worshiping our Bible but He worships his “Urantia Revelation” garbage , talking about the Pot calling the Kettle Black. He presents himself as an accuser of the Brethern which best matches the description of you know who.  

    peace and love to you all……………………………………………………………..gene


    Gene,

    You're starting to get cranky; the UB wasn't written by God, I have NEVER said that, God doesn’t write Books. I simply pointed out how many people here think Satan is a God, the God of this world. You guys talk constantly about all the ways Satan does things. You have a lot of faith in this Satan and his power. You seem to think the real God is diminished, weak, in the background. You even implied in this post above that, if I were accusing you, which I am not, that it must be this Satan God. What a hypocrite! I've been repeatedly “accused” on this forum?

    If the things I say are not true, all the sharper will be your truth by the apologetics derived from our exchanges…..ooooh, that was clever, may have come from the Satan God.

    Colter

    #371960
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Colter……….Excuse me “your Guys” When did i ever say Satan was a GOD of anything or the REAL GOD was diminished, weak, in the background, Don't drag me into that, you obviously are confusing me with someone else> None of you Post has anything to do with the way I see a Satan at all. You need to be more direct and address you commit to those that do believe that way Not ME.

    And Colter that last statement did not come form a “SATAN GOD”, it came from an accusing “SPIRIT” (intellect)working (IN) your MIND, and That SPIRIT is a SATAN or the SPIRIT (intellect) of an ADVERSARY> IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene

    #371961
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,01:31)
    Colter……….Excuse me “your Guys” When did i ever say Satan was a GOD of anything or the REAL GOD was diminished, weak, in the background, Don't drag me into that, you obviously are confusing me with someone else>  None of you Post has anything to do with the way I see a Satan at all. You need to be more direct and address you commit to those that do believe that way Not ME.

    And  Colter that last statement did not come form a “SATAN GOD”, it came from an accusing “SPIRIT”  (intellect)working (IN) your MIND, and That SPIRIT is a SATAN or the SPIRIT (intellect) of an ADVERSARY> IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………………..gene


    Well then Ed your SATAN mind spirit has accused me.

    And I do realize that you have a different opinion about Satan. The Bible presents Satan as a personality reality, if he isn’t then it’s the Bible that misleads.

    Colter

    #371962
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Colter………I am not ED , and As for the Bible Presenting a Satan as a Personality Reality correct, and exactly what is a Personality , is it not a TRAIT found in different People or “BEINGS”. The Bible present Many Personality “Traits”, in a “Personification” Way, ie, Wisdom , Love , are called a She are we to believe that they are She “BEINGS” or are they Personality Traits that are found (IN) People this also applies to a Satan an (IT) is not a Person but a Personality there is a Big Difference. IMO

    peace and love……………………………………..gene

    #371963
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,01:57)
    Colter………I am not ED , and As for the Bible Presenting a Satan as a Personality Reality correct, and exactly what is a Personality , is it not a TRAIT found in different People or “BEINGS”. The Bible present Many  Personality “Traits”, in a “Personification” Way, ie, Wisdom , Love , are called a She are we to believe that they are  She “BEINGS” or are they Personality Traits that are found (IN) People this also applies to a Satan an (IT) is not a Person but a Personality there is a Big Difference. IMO

    peace and love……………………………………..gene


    oops, sorry Gene,

    The Bible presents the character of Satan as a proper name, not a mere presonality trait. Any objective reader of those areas of the Bible that use Satan as a proper name would agree. Your thesis is northing more then overlaying a doctrine onto the scripture for the purpose of gaining authentication of an idea that is not aparent to a common reading.

    God cured a negative personality trait??? that’s rich! :laugh:

    Colter

    #371964
    Spock
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 19 2012,01:57)
    Colter………I am not ED , and As for the Bible Presenting a Satan as a Personality Reality correct, and exactly what is a Personality , is it not a TRAIT found in different People or “BEINGS”. The Bible present Many  Personality “Traits”, in a “Personification” Way, ie, Wisdom , Love , are called a She are we to believe that they are  She “BEINGS” or are they Personality Traits that are found (IN) People this also applies to a Satan an (IT) is not a Person but a Personality there is a Big Difference. IMO

    peace and love……………………………………..gene


    oops, sorry Gene,

    The Bible presents the character of Satan as a proper name, not a mere presonality trait. Any objective reader of those areas of the Bible that use Satan as a proper name would agree. Your thesis is northing more then overlaying a doctrine onto the scripture for the purpose of gaining authentication of an idea that is not aparent to a common reading.

    God cursed a negative personality trait??? that’s rich! :laugh:

    Colter

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