The strangest thing of all

[Ed J]

Hi Tim,

That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference?

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,01:53)

Hi Tim, That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

So which part are you saying isn't true, as written?

Stuart

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,12:03)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,01:53) Hi Tim, That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org So which part are you saying isn't true, as written? Stuart

Hi Stuart,

What I'm saying is: that the impression of the king was written, which was…  
               'the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza'  
…rather than documenting that a catastrophic accident had actually occurred  –  like the tower of Siloam falling.      (see Luke 13:1-5)  

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,05:39)

You seem to have missed the point that the god character gets angry and then Uzzah dies.

The God of the universe set a rule: Don't touch the ark or you will die. Uzzah broke that rule and he died. End of story.

Romans 9:21
Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

I am but clay, and therefore don't question the potter.

[mikeboll64]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,06:18)

You claimed there were eyewitnesses accounts of Jesus, and you haven’t presented any.

Actually, I have.  You don't want to BELIEVE they're eyewitness accounts, but that really doesn't matter to me.

Stu, you are a joke.  Every time I shoot down one of your claims using scripture, you try to throw doubt into it with no good reason to do so.

I show you where Luke uses “we” in Acts, and you make some asinine claim that it is more likely he included himself into an old oral tradition?    

I show you a scripture that clearly implies there were only 13 at the last supper, and you suggest that there were others there who were not allowed to eat?    

Anyway, enough games.  You asked, I showed from scripture.  You lose.

[Stu]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,12:32)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,06:18) You claimed there were eyewitnesses accounts of Jesus, and you haven’t presented any. Actually, I have.  You don't want to BELIEVE they're eyewitness accounts, but that really doesn't matter to me. Stu, you are a joke.  Every time I shoot down one of your claims using scripture, you try to throw doubt into it with no good reason to do so. I show you where Luke uses “we” in Acts, and you make some asinine claim that it is more likely he included himself into an old oral tradition?     I show you a scripture that clearly implies there were only 13 at the last supper, and you suggest that there were others there who were not allowed to eat?     Anyway, enough games.  You asked, I showed from scripture.  You lose.

Perhaps you have still not realised the fact that “shooting down” using scripture doesn't actually work when the scripture is shown to be unreliable.

You seem ignorant of the meaning of the term “scholarship” and the differences between that and your “traditional” view, in which you just assume that the New Testament trumps anything.

I'm not playing a game with you, so I don't lose anything. It is you who loses by not appreciating the nature of the scripture you mindlessly assert.

I stand by everything I have posted, and I can't think of any reason you have given me to retract anything. “Scripture Sez…” doesn't cut it sorry.

No eyewitness accounts of Jesus. Your “we” attempt didn't even claim to be an eyewitness account of Jesus, and I gave you good reasons why the author of Luke-Acts was not a companion of Paul.

But reality doesn't seem to be very important to you.

Not sure who the loser is when reality is consigned to irrelevance and a fantasy conspiracy theory is asserted instead.

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,12:16)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,01:53) Hi Tim, That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference? God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org So which part are you saying isn't true, as written? Stuart Hi Stuart, What I'm saying is: that the impression of the king was written, which was…                  'the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza'   …rather than documenting that a catastrophic accident had actually occurred  –  like the tower of Siloam falling.      (see Luke 13:1-5)   God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

OK, so what is the point of the story of the death of Uzzah, according to you?

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,12:20)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,05:39) You seem to have missed the point that the god character gets angry and then Uzzah dies. The God of the universe set a rule:  Don't touch the ark or you will die.  Uzzah broke that rule and he died.  End of story. Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? I am but clay, and therefore don't question the potter.

So you are happy that the god you worship gets angry and kills your fellow humans for ethical reasons you don't understand.

I guess I couldn't rely on your help if it was down to the two of us to get rid of a violent dictator.

Unless you are a hypocrite, willing to apply different standards to humans compared to gods.

Why is it that gods always demand exemptions to human rights? And that there are spineless humans willing to grant them?

Stuart

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,18:01)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,12:16) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,01:53) Hi Tim, That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference? God bless Ed J So which part are you saying isn't true, as written? Stuart Hi Stuart, What I'm saying is: that the impression of the king was written, which was…                  'the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza'   …rather than documenting that a catastrophic accident had actually occurred  –  like the tower of Siloam falling.      (see Luke 13:1-5)   God bless Ed J OK, so what is the point of the story of the death of Uzzah, according to you? Stuart

Hi Stuart,

                     “The Ark”(63) of “YHVH”(63)

Dah, don't handle “The Ark” of “YHVH” without the proper training.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 09 2012,14:24)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,18:01) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,12:16) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,12:03) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 08 2012,01:53) Hi Tim, That was written by a scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.      …perhaps you do not know the difference? God bless Ed J So which part are you saying isn't true, as written? Stuart Hi Stuart, What I'm saying is: that the impression of the king was written, which was…                  'the anger of the LORD was kindled against Uzza'   …rather than documenting that a catastrophic accident had actually occurred  –  like the tower of Siloam falling.      (see Luke 13:1-5)   God bless Ed J OK, so what is the point of the story of the death of Uzzah, according to you? Stuart Hi Stuart,                      “The Ark”(63) of “YHVH”(63) Dah, don't handle “The Ark” of “YHVH” without the proper training. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want. It's your fantasy story.

Why does your god leave lethally dangerous holy objects in the possession of humans?

Stuart

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34)

OK, … Why does your god leave lethally dangerous holy objects in the possession of humans? Stuart

Hi Stuart,

                “The ArK” of “YHVH”(63)

Asking questions is “Good”, that's how we learn.
Because it afforded the Children of Israel great power against their enemies.

“The Ark”(63) acted as a sound resonance amplifier to knock down a thick stone wall at Jericho.  (see Joshua 6:5)
“The Ark”(63) acted as radiation poisoning to the Philistines when they took it. They then gave it back.  (see 1Samuel 5)

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,18:58)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, … Why does your god leave lethally dangerous holy objects in the possession of humans? Stuart Hi Stuart,                 “The ArK” of “YHVH”(63) Asking questions is “Good”, that's how we learn. Because it afforded the Children of Israel great power against their enemies. “The Ark”(63) acted as a sound resonance amplifier to knock down a thick stone wall at Jericho.  (see Joshua 6:5) “The Ark”(63) acted as radiation poisoning to the Philistines when they took it. They then gave it back.  (see 1Samuel 5) God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Plus it acted as a highly electrically charged capacitor when
Uzzah touched it, proving this artifact had enormous power.

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34)

OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart

Hi Stuart,

God has brought you to this forum for that very reason.
For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning
false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,19:14)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart Hi Stuart, God has brought you to this forum for that very reason. For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

2 Timothy 3:16

Stuart

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,20:21)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,19:14) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart Hi Stuart, God has brought you to this forum for that very reason. For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org 2 Timothy 3:16 Stuart

Yes.

[bodhitharta]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,18:06)

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,12:20) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,05:39) You seem to have missed the point that the god character gets angry and then Uzzah dies. The God of the universe set a rule:  Don't touch the ark or you will die.  Uzzah broke that rule and he died.  End of story. Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? I am but clay, and therefore don't question the potter. So you are happy that the god you worship gets angry and kills your fellow humans for ethical reasons you don't understand. I guess I couldn't rely on your help if it was down to the two of us to get rid of a violent dictator. Unless you are a hypocrite, willing to apply different standards to humans compared to gods. Why is it that gods always demand exemptions to human rights?  And that there are spineless humans willing to grant them? Stuart

Su,

Why isn't violence ethical?

[Stu]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 12 2012,13:23)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 08 2012,18:06) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 08 2012,12:20) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 07 2012,05:39) You seem to have missed the point that the god character gets angry and then Uzzah dies. The God of the universe set a rule:  Don't touch the ark or you will die.  Uzzah broke that rule and he died.  End of story. Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? I am but clay, and therefore don't question the potter. So you are happy that the god you worship gets angry and kills your fellow humans for ethical reasons you don't understand. I guess I couldn't rely on your help if it was down to the two of us to get rid of a violent dictator. Unless you are a hypocrite, willing to apply different standards to humans compared to gods. Why is it that gods always demand exemptions to human rights?  And that there are spineless humans willing to grant them? Stuart Su, Why isn't violence ethical?

I think I imply in my post that it could be ethical.

Stuart

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,00:39)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,20:21) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,19:14) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart Hi Stuart, God has brought you to this forum for that very reason. For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org 2 Timothy 3:16 Stuart Yes.

So you agree it says in scripture that god gets angry and smites Uzzah, and you disagree that is a correct interpretation, but you agree with 2 Tim 3:16.

I still don't know why your Imaginary Friend leaves these lethally hazardous objects lying around.

Maybe it has wifi now and can destroy walls, poison people with radiation and perhaps smite people by remote control.

Stuart

[Ed J]

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 15 2012,07:25)

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,00:39) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,20:21) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,19:14) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart Hi Stuart, God has brought you to this forum for that very reason. For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion. God bless Ed J 2 Timothy 3:16 Stuart Yes. So you agree it says in scripture that god gets angry and smites Uzzah, and you disagree that is a correct interpretation, but you agree with 2 Tim 3:16. I still don't know why your Imaginary Friend leaves these lethally hazardous objects lying around. Maybe it has wifi now and can destroy walls, poison people with radiation and perhaps smite people by remote control. Stuart

Hi Stuart,

I told you already, that was written by the scribe of the king, not a prophet of God.

God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Stu]

Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 15 2012,07:57)

Quote (Stu @ Sep. 15 2012,07:25) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 11 2012,00:39) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,20:21) Quote (Ed J @ Sep. 10 2012,19:14) Quote (Stu @ Sep. 10 2012,18:34) OK, you can go against just about every apology on the internet regarding this story, and the Chronicles account if you want.  It's your fantasy story. Stuart Hi Stuart, God has brought you to this forum for that very reason. For you to learn “The Truth” about him, instead of you just learning false rudimentary worldly logic about him. I will help to remove your confusion. God bless Ed J 2 Timothy 3:16 Stuart Yes. So you agree it says in scripture that god gets angry and smites Uzzah, and you disagree that is a correct interpretation, but you agree with 2 Tim 3:16. I still don't know why your Imaginary Friend leaves these lethally hazardous objects lying around. Maybe it has wifi now and can destroy walls, poison people with radiation and perhaps smite people by remote control. Stuart Hi Stuart, I told you already, that was written by the scribe of the king, not a prophet of God. God bless Ed J (Joshua 22:34) http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

So you disagree with 2 Tim 3:16 then.

Stuart

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