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Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,20:04) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 22 2013,20:50) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 21 2013,21:17) I will keep praying though.
Why? Do you think your god forgets what you asked it and needs your reminders?Stuart
No, I was praying for the words to say to YOU!!
Let me know if your god gives you anything to quote to me. Presumably an omnipotent being would be able to come up with something so compelling it would end my objection.Stuart
The vinedresser picks the ripe grapes from the vine.
Leaves the green ones until they are ripe.
If some never mature, then those are useless.
Time to prune the vine, cut the branch, throw it into the fire. Let it make room for fruitful branches.
Of course the Atheist grape doesn't believe in the vinedresser.Quote (Stu @ Mar. 22 2013,22:59) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,20:04) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 22 2013,20:50) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 21 2013,21:17) I will keep praying though.
Why? Do you think your god forgets what you asked it and needs your reminders?Stuart
No, I was praying for the words to say to YOU!!
Let me know if your god gives you anything to quote to me. Presumably an omnipotent being would be able to come up with something so compelling it would end my objection.Stuart
Yes but it won't be coming from my mouth. I was only asking God what NOT to say, worried that I may say the wrong thing!Keep you “eyes” and “ears” open. God will show himself to you through something that happens around you in life, or through your mind (thoughts) or in some other way.
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2013,05:43) Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 20 2013,04:44) Hi Ed,
Did you really call out to Jupiter and he didn't reveal himself to you?You just don't have enough faith.
Tim
Hi Tim,It was a big failure. -Or-
dare I say the expected result.If Stuart calls out to YHVH: success is guaranteed!
(2Tim.2:13/Heb.6:18)
Expect about a 2-3 week window to see my God in action.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Stuart,So, when are you going to fulfill your part in our agreement?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You did 'renege' right?Quote (t8 @ Mar. 22 2013,21:17) The vinedresser picks the ripe grapes from the vine.
Leaves the green ones until they are ripe.
If some never mature, then those are useless.
Time to prune the vine, cut the branch, throw it into the fire. Let it make room for fruitful branches.
Of course the Atheist grape doesn't believe in the vinedresser.
And in fact he objects to the wanton disregard for humanity implicit in the nasty analogy. Your Calvanism is showing.Stuart
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,21:27) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 22 2013,22:59) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 22 2013,20:04) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 22 2013,20:50) Quote (2besee @ Mar. 21 2013,21:17) I will keep praying though.
Why? Do you think your god forgets what you asked it and needs your reminders?Stuart
No, I was praying for the words to say to YOU!!
Let me know if your god gives you anything to quote to me. Presumably an omnipotent being would be able to come up with something so compelling it would end my objection.Stuart
Yes but it won't be coming from my mouth. I was only asking God what NOT to say, worried that I may say the wrong thing!Keep you “eyes” and “ears” open. God will show himself to you through something that happens around you in life, or through your mind (thoughts) or in some other way.
You're so earnest about the actual possibility! Do you really think it is likely that I will interpret some commonplace event in my life as a communication from your god?Stuart
Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,22:23) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,19:57) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 20 2013,05:43) Quote (TimothyVI @ Mar. 20 2013,04:44) Hi Ed,
Did you really call out to Jupiter and he didn't reveal himself to you?You just don't have enough faith.
Tim
Hi Tim,It was a big failure. -Or-
dare I say the expected result.If Stuart calls out to YHVH: success is guaranteed!
(2Tim.2:13/Heb.6:18)
Expect about a 2-3 week window to see my God in action.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Stuart,So, when are you going to fulfill your part in our agreement?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
You did 'renege' right?
Silence is deafening.Quote (Stu @ Mar. 23 2013,10:43) You're so earnest about the actual possibility! Do you really think it is likely that I will interpret some commonplace event in my life as a communication from your god? Stuart
Stuart, it is up to you. Keep watching.Quote (bodhitharta @ Mar. 23 2013,13:22) Quote (Ed J @ Mar. 22 2013,16:11) Hi BD, How have you been?
Awesome! and you?
Hi BD, pretty Good.“God the Father” is truly awesome; isn't He?
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 23 2013,10:41) Quote (Stu @ Mar. 23 2013,10:43) You're so earnest about the actual possibility! Do you really think it is likely that I will interpret some commonplace event in my life as a communication from your god? Stuart
Stuart, it is up to you. Keep watching.
So this is a do-it-yourself revelation from your god. You promise the revelation but I have to pick the commonplace event in my life but pretend it's your god doing it. Is that how it works?Actually I know already that's how it works.
Stuart
Stuart,
You are looking for strange things happening which are not just coincidences, also, thoughts in the mind which seem to be not your own. Also, try asking God with all of your heart, to show himself to you, if he is real.
Try that, okay.
You will not “see God” but you can with your mind. Maybe that will come later though.
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 23 2013,19:59) Stuart, You are looking for strange things happening which are not just coincidences, also, thoughts in the mind which seem to be not your own. Also, try asking God with all of your heart, to show himself to you, if he is real.
Try that, okay.
You will not “see God” but you can with your mind. Maybe that will come later though.
So now you are telling the that just “Keep[ing] watching” isn't enough.If I was to ring for an ambulance, even though I am perfectly fine, that would count as something that is a strange happening but isn't a random coincidence. Is that the sort of think you mean for me to do?
Once again, how do you know Jupiter does not exist and answer prayers if you have not done the same as you are suggesting I do? As I recall you refused to do that as pointless, but yet you deny my claim that the same act is pointless in regards to your god.
Is it that I am wrong and you cannot be?
Stuart
Stuart,
No, you just have to seek, and pay attention.!Quote Once again, how do you know Jupiter does not exist and answer prayers if you have not done the same as you are suggesting I do? As I recall you refused to do that as pointless, but yet you deny my claim that the same act is pointless in regards to your god. Is it that I am wrong and you cannot be?
No. I just know that God, the creator of this world and the universe is there and is true. I have asked “Which God are you” at one point, not knowing for sure because I could not seem to reconcile some things in the bible with what I had seen and known, and that is a God of love.
So when I asked, I was shown that it is the same God of the scriptures….
So when you ask me to pray to another God (Jupiter) — I know nothing about that so called god “Jupiter”.
I only want to share the God who I do know with you.
Stu……..I was as much as a skeptic as you many years ago, I had been raised hearing much about God and going to a few churches over the years, I was even so convicted of my sins i thought i need to be forgiven for them and at the age of 21, i went to a baptist church and was baptized, I had come to a point in my life where i realized i of myself could not keep from sinning and i need the Spirit of God to help me remove sin that was in my life. I was Baptized expecting that i would receive this Spiritual help i was looking for, But i received nothing at all , Just got wet is all, and I never went back to that church again , My life was Just as it was before i was baptized so what was the point of even trying. about ten year later i decided to try again and began an intense bible study and even took a correspondence course, at home, I read all about God and what he can do and scripture describing him and who he enter acted with His servants. But none of that “HEAR SAY” Was present in my life as far as i could tell, I needed absolute PROOF of this unseen GOD everyone was talking about.
So i started a search in the Bible to see if there was a Place i could get my “OWN” PROOF, not someone else's proof, but my own. After a few weeks of searching i found it. God himself made a Challenge to Prove his existence. It was in the book of Malachi where God said to Prove him, by doing something , It was tithing , So i said there it is , i will test God to see if what he said is true or not , So I gave my first tithe to a church , and my wife through a fit and said we need all the money we had and could not afford to send that money to a church, i told her this was a one time deal if I did not receive back from God , then i would never do it again, So that same week i man came to me as ask if i were interested in buying a bailer machine i could get it for 50 Dollars , so i did , as i used to fix up thing and sell them for extra income . I brought it home and left it beside my home till i could get time to work on it , and a few days later a man came to my door and asked me if i wanted to sell it , i said i would but i had not had time to work on it , he said that was OK and he would take it as is, He offered me 250, Dollars for it and i solid it to him.
Needless to say that was a huge increase and within a week it all took place but my wife said that was just a coincidence and that was no real proof , so i agreed with her and said OK I will do it again and the same thing happened , over and over and over and over , it would take a book to list all the thing that happened as this Unseen God was revealing himself to me. So i did start to go to Church and Joined the WWCG and for seven years i was a member I had so many Prayers answered in my life as i said it would take a book to mention them all.
But Stu , this is the way it is , no man “FAITH” can be YOUR FAITH, you must acquire it on you own , Just as it says have you “faith” have it unto “YOURSELF”. Every man Faith is his own , just as it says, God has given unto everyone a “MEASURE” of Faith So you faith will be unique unto yourself Just as Mine is unique unto me , but what i do like about you is that you are holding out for you own Personal Faith , and that is all i or 2besee or anyone else can do is pray as ask God to reveal himself unto you brother.
peace and love to you and your Stu……………………………………………….gene
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 23 2013,22:18) Stuart,
No, you just have to seek, and pay attention.!Quote Once again, how do you know Jupiter does not exist and answer prayers if you have not done the same as you are suggesting I do? As I recall you refused to do that as pointless, but yet you deny my claim that the same act is pointless in regards to your god. Is it that I am wrong and you cannot be?
No. I just know that God, the creator of this world and the universe is there and is true. I have asked “Which God are you” at one point, not knowing for sure because I could not seem to reconcile some things in the bible with what I had seen and known, and that is a God of love.
So when I asked, I was shown that it is the same God of the scriptures….
So when you ask me to pray to another God (Jupiter) — I know nothing about that so called god “Jupiter”.
I only want to share the God who I do know with you.
I only want to share Jupiter with you. I have no concerns for your false god.Stuart
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 24 2013,04:13) Stu……..I was as much as a skeptic as you many years ago, I had been raised hearing much about God and going to a few churches over the years, I was even so convicted of my sins i thought i need to be forgiven for them and at the age of 21, i went to a baptist church and was baptized, I had come to a point in my life where i realized i of myself could not keep from sinning and i need the Spirit of God to help me remove sin that was in my life. I was Baptized expecting that i would receive this Spiritual help i was looking for, But i received nothing at all , Just got wet is all, and I never went back to that church again , My life was Just as it was before i was baptized so what was the point of even trying. about ten year later i decided to try again and began an intense bible study and even took a correspondence course, at home, I read all about God and what he can do and scripture describing him and who he enter acted with His servants. But none of that “HEAR SAY” Was present in my life as far as i could tell, I needed absolute PROOF of this unseen GOD everyone was talking about. So i started a search in the Bible to see if there was a Place i could get my “OWN” PROOF, not someone else's proof, but my own. After a few weeks of searching i found it. God himself made a Challenge to Prove his existence. It was in the book of Malachi where God said to Prove him, by doing something , It was tithing , So i said there it is , i will test God to see if what he said is true or not , So I gave my first tithe to a church , and my wife through a fit and said we need all the money we had and could not afford to send that money to a church, i told her this was a one time deal if I did not receive back from God , then i would never do it again, So that same week i man came to me as ask if i were interested in buying a bailer machine i could get it for 50 Dollars , so i did , as i used to fix up thing and sell them for extra income . I brought it home and left it beside my home till i could get time to work on it , and a few days later a man came to my door and asked me if i wanted to sell it , i said i would but i had not had time to work on it , he said that was OK and he would take it as is, He offered me 250, Dollars for it and i solid it to him.
Needless to say that was a huge increase and within a week it all took place but my wife said that was just a coincidence and that was no real proof , so i agreed with her and said OK I will do it again and the same thing happened , over and over and over and over , it would take a book to list all the thing that happened as this Unseen God was revealing himself to me. So i did start to go to Church and Joined the WWCG and for seven years i was a member I had so many Prayers answered in my life as i said it would take a book to mention them all.
But Stu , this is the way it is , no man “FAITH” can be YOUR FAITH, you must acquire it on you own , Just as it says have you “faith” have it unto “YOURSELF”. Every man Faith is his own , just as it says, God has given unto everyone a “MEASURE” of Faith So you faith will be unique unto yourself Just as Mine is unique unto me , but what i do like about you is that you are holding out for you own Personal Faith , and that is all i or 2besee or anyone else can do is pray as ask God to reveal himself unto you brother.
peace and love to you and your Stu……………………………………………….gene
Nope, I still haven't received the money from your god yet. And I think it has been a whole week now.Stuart
Quote (2besee @ Mar. 24 2013,07:45) Good post Gene:)
So when do I get the money from your god that Gene is promising?Stuart
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