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  • #147504
    GeneBalthrop
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    The spirit in scripture is described as a MIND, let this mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Spirit relates to GOD himself “FOR GOD is a SPIRIT”  also if the “SPIRIT” that was (IN) the anointed Jesus be in You (IT) will quicken you mortal, bodies.

    For the SPIRIT Earnestly desires Us.  You can see it's a relationship by this , it's as if GOD wants a relationship with us much like a man and a women have a relationship with each other an eminent relationship.

    God  who is Spirit, considers us as temples He can indwell and live in.

    Spirit is expressed through WORDS. Jesus said the words I am telling you (ARE) Spirit and Life. You see words express Spirit that is in the person,  It is His thinking His intellect, so a man thinks so he is. That is why we can know the Spirit in a person by His words because the proceed from His thinking which shows his intellect or Spirit same thing.

    The  (HOLY) Spirit also defends Us and accuse us where? in our minds it corrects our thinking and gives us a higher Intellect , It reveals to us the MIND or thinking of GOD. In this way we are being (CREATED) unto good works, it all starts in the MIND by the HOLY INTELLECT or SPIRIT of GOD coming into us.

    Spirit in any form is not matter it is (Thought) “I (think) therefore I AM”>   When a man or women dies their thoughts Parish they no longer have Spirit in them and therefore can  not think. They cease to exist, and will remain that way for ever unless GOD brings them Back to Life again.  

    Job 32:8….> there is a (spirit) or Intellect in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty gives them understanding.  

    Job 33:4 The Spirit of GOD has made me, and the breath of the Almighty (divine Intellect) has given me life.

    JOB 34:14…> If He set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself His Spirit and His Breath; (ALL) flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

    Our life NOW and in the FUTURE is IN the HANDS OF GOD. IMO

    peace and love to you all…………….gene

    #147506
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    The cry of a lonely owl pleading for the acceptance of his own dogmas?
    Spirit gives life.

    You should not add to what is written should you?

    Intellect never appears in scripture but it has become your obsession.

    Do you have special gnostic inspiration?

    #147527
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Nick……….And you appear as one who can't put scripture together and make sense out of them. YOU still don't understand what a (WORD) is do you.> I gave what i think now Please tell us what you think SPIRIT is then, O Wise ONE, IF you Can.

    gene

    #147534
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    We do not need to paste verses together to find truth by filtration through your thoughts.
    Truth is written and supported .jn17

    #147547
    Not3in1
    Participant

    Gene,

    Here's a thought, if a person becomes brain-dead because of an accident – is their spirit dead also? Or is the spirit still alive but no longer has a mouthpiece to express itself from? Just trying to see your side of things.

    I love owls. :;):

    Love,
    Mandy

    #147555

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 27 2009,07:58)
    The spirit in scripture is described as a MIND, let this mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Spirit relates to GOD himself “FOR GOD is a SPIRIT”  also if the “SPIRIT” that was (IN) the anointed Jesus be in You (IT) will quicken you mortal, bodies.

    For the SPIRIT Earnestly desires Us.  You can see it's a relationship by this , it's as if GOD wants a relationship with us much like a man and a women have a relationship with each other an eminent relationship.

    God  who is Spirit, considers us as temples He can indwell and live in.

    Spirit is expressed through WORDS. Jesus said the words I am telling you (ARE) Spirit and Life. You see words express Spirit that is in the person,  It is His thinking His intellect, so a man thinks so he is. That is why we can know the Spirit in a person by His words because the proceed from His thinking which shows his intellect or Spirit same thing.

    The  (HOLY) Spirit also defends Us and accuse us where? in our minds it corrects our thinking and gives us a higher Intellect , It reveals to us the MIND or thinking of GOD. In this way we are being (CREATED) unto good works, it all starts in the MIND by the HOLY INTELLECT or SPIRIT of GOD coming into us.

    Spirit in any form is not matter it is (Thought) “I (think) therefore I AM”>   When a man or women dies their thoughts Parish they no longer have Spirit in them and therefore can  not think. They cease to exist, and will remain that way for ever unless GOD brings them Back to Life again.  

    Job 32:8….> there is a (spirit) or Intellect in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty gives them understanding.  

    Job 33:4 The Spirit of GOD has made me, and the breath of the Almighty (divine Intellect) has given me life.

    JOB 34:14…> If He set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself His Spirit and His Breath; (ALL) flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

    Our life NOW and in the FUTURE is IN the HANDS OF GOD.  IMO

    peace and love to you all…………….gene


    Gnosticism

    #147610

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 26 2009,22:25)
    Gene,

    Here's a thought, if a person becomes brain-dead because of an accident – is their spirit dead also?  Or is the spirit still alive but no longer has a mouthpiece to express itself from?  Just trying to see your side of things.

    I love owls.  :;):

    Love,
    Mandy


    Mandy

    Good question!

    If Spirit is “Intellect” or “Thoughts” as Gene claims then a brain dead person who has no brain waves or thoughts would not be alive.

    WJ

    #147614
    Proclaimer
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 27 2009,14:25)
    Gene,

    Here's a thought, if a person becomes brain-dead because of an accident – is their spirit dead also?  Or is the spirit still alive but no longer has a mouthpiece to express itself from?  Just trying to see your side of things.

    I love owls.  :;):

    Love,
    Mandy


    Nice question.

    :)

    #147626
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Not3in1 @ Sep. 27 2009,14:25)
    Gene,

    Here's a thought, if a person becomes brain-dead because of an accident – is their spirit dead also?  Or is the spirit still alive but no longer has a mouthpiece to express itself from?  Just trying to see your side of things.

    I love owls.  :;):

    Love,
    Mandy


    Wow good questin, lets see what Gene has to say about that.
    Love Irene

    #147628
    Tim Kraft
    Participant

    Gene: Excellent post! Beautifully exprssed. A breath of fresh air/spirit. I certainly enjoyed it. No arguing, just beautiful, flowing Truth!
    As to a question that was presented by Mandy: IMO the brain is the physical organ that acts as a computer. Mind/Spirit information comes into the brain and is analysed and processed. If the brain is dead or not working properly neither will the rest of the body function correctly.Machines can keep one alive but it is a very low form of life, barely existence! Spirit is God, it is eternal. I believe you are correct when you say spirit is still alive but information or thoughts cannot be processed for comprehension and awareness. Bless you all, TK

    #147637
    georg
    Participant

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 27 2009,07:58)
    The spirit in scripture is described as a MIND, let this mind be in you as was in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    Spirit relates to GOD himself “FOR GOD is a SPIRIT”  also if the “SPIRIT” that was (IN) the anointed Jesus be in You (IT) will quicken you mortal, bodies.

    For the SPIRIT Earnestly desires Us.  You can see it's a relationship by this , it's as if GOD wants a relationship with us much like a man and a women have a relationship with each other an eminent relationship.

    God  who is Spirit, considers us as temples He can indwell and live in.

    Spirit is expressed through WORDS. Jesus said the words I am telling you (ARE) Spirit and Life. You see words express Spirit that is in the person,  It is His thinking His intellect, so a man thinks so he is. That is why we can know the Spirit in a person by His words because the proceed from His thinking which shows his intellect or Spirit same thing.

    The  (HOLY) Spirit also defends Us and accuse us where? in our minds it corrects our thinking and gives us a higher Intellect , It reveals to us the MIND or thinking of GOD. In this way we are being (CREATED) unto good works, it all starts in the MIND by the HOLY INTELLECT or SPIRIT of GOD coming into us.

    Spirit in any form is not matter it is (Thought) “I (think) therefore I AM”>   When a man or women dies their thoughts Parish they no longer have Spirit in them and therefore can  not think. They cease to exist, and will remain that way for ever unless GOD brings them Back to Life again.  

    Job 32:8….> there is a (spirit) or Intellect in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty gives them understanding.  

    Job 33:4 The Spirit of GOD has made me, and the breath of the Almighty (divine Intellect) has given me life.

    JOB 34:14…> If He set his heart upon man, if he gather unto himself His Spirit and His Breath; (ALL) flesh shall perish together, and man shall turn again unto dust.

    Our life NOW and in the FUTURE is IN the HANDS OF GOD.  IMO

    peace and love to you all…………….gene


    Gene

    I agree with Tim, excellent post.

    Also, Tim made a good point answering Mandy, by bringing up the computer. Let me go a step further; consider the computer being your brain, and the electricity being your mind, both are needed to work to gether, you destroy the computer/brain, your mind/electricity is useless.

    Georg

    #147644
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Mandy and Tim and Irene and Georg and T8………….thanks for your kind response, Mandy fact is If you are  in a Hospital with sever brain damage they check for brain waves and if none is fond you are ruled  brain dead, and they will pull all life support systems from you. Being brain dead is dead. Like Georg said the electricity is cut off The thinking process have ceased and you are considered deceased.  There are cases where all the Brain is not dead, Your Madella amlingata, (don't know if i spelled it right) the automatic part of you brain that keeps you heart beating and you repertory systems going can still be functioning, and if they intravenously feed you your body will still function in part, but if not attended to you will die by starvation or dehydration. Without thoughts being processed in you mind you can not animate or express yourself. We are in some way like a computer we collect information and process it and act on it. A computer can control as complete process line in a factory. By saying that please don't think i am saying we are computers or robots, we are (MUCH MUCH) MORE THAN THAT. We have (EMOTIONS) which computers  don't have.

    The Idea that Spirit is (intellect) should not be surprising to any one , JESUS SAID THE WORD I AM TELLING YOU (ARE) SPIRIT AND LIFE, we just need to think about what a WORD is, it is the EXPRESSION OF INTELLECT, that is (ALL) a WORD IS. There are words of Man (lower form of intellect) and there are Words of GOD (higher form of intellect) (BOTH) are Spirit and express who and what a  person is.  GOD give His intellect in some form to all his creation, read what GOD said to JOB, He even withholds it from some creatures and gives more to others, Read it you should all enjoy it.  IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………gene

    #147655
    NickHassan
    Participant

    G,
    Do you think determination to tell everyone your novel idea will make it true?

    #200995
    terraricca
    Participant

    hi all

    some more inside on the spirit ,questions but no answers

    Pierre

    #201002
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Quote (Gene @ Sep. 28 2009,03:10)
    The Idea that Spirit is (intellect) should not be surprising to any one , JESUS SAID THE WORD I AM TELLING YOU (ARE) SPIRIT AND LIFE, we just need to think about what a WORD is, it is the EXPRESSION OF INTELLECT, that is (ALL) a WORD IS. There are words of Man (lower form of intellect) and there are Words of GOD (higher form of intellect) (BOTH) are Spirit and express who and what a  person is.  GOD give His intellect in some form to all his creation, read what GOD said to JOB, He even withholds it from some creatures and gives more to others, Read it you should all enjoy it.  IMO

    peace and love to you all……………………gene


    Terriccia……….there is you answer.

    #201006
    terraricca
    Participant

    all

    Pr 15:4 The tongue that brings healing is a tree of life,
    but a deceitful tongue crushes the spirit.

    Pr 16:19 Better to be lowly in spirit and among the oppressed
    than to share plunder with the proud

    Pr 18:14 A man’s spirit sustains him in sickness,
    but a crushed spirit who can bear?

    Ecc 3:21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?”

    Isa 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.

    Isa 11:2 The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him—
    the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding,
    the Spirit of counsel and of power,
    the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD—
    Isa 19:14 The LORD has poured into them
    a spirit of dizziness;

    Isa 29:24 Those who are wayward in spirit will gain understanding;
    those who complain will accept instruction.”

    Isa 30:1 “Woe to the obstinate children,”
    declares the LORD,

    to those who carry out plans that are not mine,
    forming an alliance, but not by my Spirit,

    SO THE SPIRIT IS “INTELLECT” ???? THINK AGAIN FRIEND.

    Pierre

    #201034
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi T,
    The spirit of a man gives him life[jas2]

    #201064
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terricca……….So you don't believe where it say “so a man think so he is” right?. So your Spirit is void of intellects well that does seem to fit you. No wisdom, No understandings, no knowledge. Well as you quoted maybe God has pored out on you a spirit of dizziness. O that would be in you intellect to right? Seem you keep going around in circles most of the time. The self Willed “FREE WILLER'S” ride the same Ship of Pride You and your bunch ride. IMO

    peace and love………………………….gene

    #201075
    terraricca
    Participant

    Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 01 2010,08:17)
    Terricca……….So you don't believe where it say “so a man think so he is” right?.  So your Spirit is void of intellects well that does seem to fit you. No wisdom, No understandings, no knowledge. Well as you quoted maybe God has pored out on you a spirit of dizziness.  O that would be in you intellect to right? Seem you keep going around in circles most of the time. The self Willed “FREE WILLER'S”  ride the same Ship of Pride You and your bunch ride. IMO

    peace and love………………………….gene


    gene

    “so a man think so he is” let see now lets break it up;

    so a man think ? what does this imply??
    so he is ;what does this imply??

    Pierre

    #201087
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Terraricca………. The word think means he is using his (INTELLECT) that is what he thinks with. :D :D :D

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