The son begotten when?

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  • #203474
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,14:41)
    Hi MB,
    Being in the form of God is not being God is it?


    Not THE God Nick.

    But God is spirit, man is not. I take it to mean, “being in a spirit form, he emptied himself and became in a man's form”.

    mike

    #203478
    NickHassan
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    Hi MB,
    Jesus from the Jordan when filled with the Spirit was as God on earth.
    He had the same knowledge and powers and was given all authority.
    But he chose submission to His Father and was led by the Spirit

    #203480
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,15:02)
    Hi MB,
    Jesus from the Jordan when filled with the Spirit was as God on earth.
    He had the same knowledge and powers and was given all authority.
    But he chose submission to His Father and was led by the Spirit


    nick

    were does it say that Christ had ;He had the same knowledge and powers and was given all authority.

    was this after the Jordan or after his resurrection???

    Pierre

    #203482
    mikeboll64
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    Quote (terraricca @ July 13 2010,15:19)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,15:02)
    Hi MB,
    Jesus from the Jordan when filled with the Spirit was as God on earth.
    He had the same knowledge and powers and was given all authority.
    But he chose submission to His Father and was led by the Spirit


    nick

    were does it say that Christ had ;He had the same knowledge and powers and was given all authority.

    was this after the Jordan or after his resurrection???

    Pierre


    And not only that (which was after he was raised), when is it ever said Jesus had “the SAME” knowledge and power as God?

    goodnight,
    mike

    #203483
    NickHassan
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    Hi T,
    God works through His Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit detailed in 1 Cor 12 show the powers of God.

    Jesus demonstrated all of these gifts having been  given the Spirit without measure.[jn3]

    He demonstrated his authority at the start of his mission when he forgave sin.[mk2.10]

    Throughout his mission he showed his authority over all things and he spoke of it in mt28

    #203486
    JustAskin
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    Ha Ha,Nick…ha ha…
    (Laughter is the support of, or with the intent of uttering, statements of ridicule and/or sarcasm, the expulsion of negative pleasure.
    Smile, Joy, happiness,…are the expulsion of positive pleasure! Maybe)

    You are lost, poor sole.

    There is no Scripture to support your post.

    Every time Jesus did something outside of everyday man need and deeds he spoke to his Father and asked for guidance and support of the Holy Spirit. Jesus even says so, explicitly.

    #203490
    NickHassan
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    Hi JA,
    sole is a kind of fish or the underside of feet?

    Jesus never did anything without checking with his God.
    His words too came from his God.
    He walked in the Spirit.

    #203493
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Nick,

    So you do have some remnant of 'understanding'. work in it Nick, nuture it, it will come in useful, even though you lack the basic elements to know it as yet.

    Yes, 'a sole' as you yourself say.

    Nick:

    Seek the 'Head'
    True knowledge, instead.
    You will miss the goal
    If you remain a'sole

    #203496
    terraricca
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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,15:25)
    Hi T,
    God works through His Spirit and the gifts of the Spirit detailed in 1 Cor 12 show the powers of God.

    Jesus demonstrated all of these gifts having been  given the Spirit without measure.[jn3]

    He demonstrated his authority at the start of his mission when he forgave sin.[mk2.10]

    Throughout his mission he showed his authority over all things and he spoke of it in mt28


    hi nick

    so it is after his resurection;Mt 28:1 The Sabbath day was now over. It was dawn on the first day of the week. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
    Mt 28:2 There was a powerful earthquake. An angel of the Lord came down from heaven. The angel went to the tomb. He rolled back the stone and sat on it.

    Mt 28:18 Then Jesus came to them. He said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    Pierre

    #203501
    JustAskin
    Participant

    To all,

    All praise to Nick for his post that Terra just quoted.

    Jesus, indeed, demonstrated 'power and authority', even casting out demons, forgiving sins, healing the sick, bringing sight to the blind. Power over the elements: stemming the storm, walking on water, turning water into wine, etc.
    However, he was not God, nor did he have 'ALL' authority. The 'Authority' he had was 'From' his Father, through the Holy Spirit.
    Jesus says so himself….he was given the 'Authority' to exercise the 'Power'.
    And, in due course, he passed on that 'Authority to exercise the power', albeit in limited form, to his Disciples and later, the Apostles.

    But notice this: The Olive Tree defied his authority. It did not produce its fruit, even if it wasn't its season, when Jesus passed by. The Tree should have acknowledged Jesus and produced its fruit in reverence to him. But it did not, so Jesus cursed it. And it immediately withered and died. Jesus removed the support that is given to all living entities, just as man dies because tne support of the Holy Spirit was removed because man sinned.
    Could the Tree have defied God Almighty?
    None the less, the defiance echoed the defiance of the generations that did not produce its fruit when they were sent the prophets, and even the current generation and so also they were cursed.

    #203504
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi JA,
    Your personal attacks are poor fruit.

    #203516
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Nick,
    Nothing to say. Good, keep it like that till you learn sense.

    #203518
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi JA,
    You boast of your sense?
    Is that wise?

    #203528
    Proclaimer
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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2010,14:57)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,14:41)
    Hi MB,
    Being in the form of God is not being God is it?


    Not THE God Nick.

    But God is spirit, man is not.  I take it to mean, “being in a spirit form, he emptied himself and became in a man's form”.

    mike


    Yes that is an obvious take. I tend to think this view is a contender.

    #203531
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Nick, still nothing to say… Good, you are learning.

    #203532
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Have we been debating this long and it still has not been established who believes what or even baselevel Scriptures.

    Or is Mike right. That, like Tolkien's Hobbits, some just like repeatedly going over what they already know and shun anything new.

    Just in case anyone doesn't know: The 'Hobbits' that Tolkien wrote about were based on the 'polite society' people of his time (Particularly a certain 'Gender') who seemed only to be able to talk about things they already knew and prided themselves in being able to repeat it to others, who, themselves, already knew that thing, especially, gossip about gossips, speculations about speculations, history about family. They never left their 'homeland', 'the Shire' and therefore knew nothing of the greater(good or bad) things going on in the world around them…that is, until the Wizard Galdolf took Bilbo Baggins on an adventure and later on, Frodo Baggins and a few 'immature but adventurous' friends came to the fore.

    Such, i see this forum.

    Who are our 'adventurous Hobbits' here?

    Who will break out of the mindless repetition of 'Scriptural Gossip' and start on the road of 'Scriptural Adventure'? Any takers, who knows a road, cross 'farmer Gile's field', lodge at the 'prancing pony' for a sup of spiritual ale, and rest in the bed of peace and righteouness, knowing that the perils of the 'the nine horses of Sin' will forever be galloping behind you as you seek the fires of Mount Life, in which to cast your ring of truth.
    Who?

    #203551
    Lightenup
    Participant

    Quote (t8 @ July 13 2010,05:38)

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 13 2010,14:57)

    Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 13 2010,14:41)
    Hi MB,
    Being in the form of God is not being God is it?


    Not THE God Nick.

    But God is spirit, man is not.  I take it to mean, “being in a spirit form, he emptied himself and became in a man's form”.

    mike


    Yes that is an obvious take. I tend to think this view is a contender.


    t8,
    Do you think that the angel's are also found in the form of God then?

    #203552
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Buy the way, Nick, I just noticed you misspelt “PURE” at the top of the page:

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    Hi JA,
    Your personal attacks are [PURE] fruit.

    Why, thank you nick, good for you to have notice…

    #203569
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi JA,
    Is it good form to change posts?
    Why do you command the stage and block truth?

    #203576
    JustAskin
    Participant

    Nick,

    The change is CLEARLY signposted – and is indicated as a mockery – THIS COUNTS…

    Beside, If you look to the light you will see truth – Your one liners are empty of point, purpose, value, sense, context, and meaning at most times.

    What do you get out of it – Some people say you are amusing – Others even challenge you back on your post as if to dispute with you – Ha! – They have the time… and the inclination for dealing with nonesense.

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