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TO ALL….We are told that there “are” Seven Spirits of GOD, IN REVELATIONS, JESUS is said to have the seven spirits of God Rev 3:1 and in REV 5:6.
JESUS also told us , he has an ear, let him hear what the SPIRIT (singular) says unto the churches (plural) , so this says that a singular spirit says to all the churches something, notice that there are seven churches mention inrevelations, but each church has its own single spirit speaking to it through JESUS, WHO HAS ALL SEVEN SPIRITS working in him. now why did GOD SELECT THOSE PATICULAR SEVEN CHURCHES TO USE HIS SEVEN SPIRITS TO ADDRESS, out of possibly hundredes of churches of GOD, that existed at that time. IT WAS BECAUSE THESE CHURCHES REPRESENTED THE TOTAL OF ALL SEVEN OF GOD’S SEVEN SPIRITS, each had its own paticular problem that each destinct spirit, of the seven spirits of GOD, addressed in THOSE SEVEN churches as a whole. THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD act as his eyes in bringing judgments to all churches and people of God. we are all being judge by these seven spirits of God. EVEN NOW.
WHAT SAY YOU?
peace and love to you all and yours. ………gene
Gene,
This idea that the Spirit is made of seven spirits is a hypothesis I had some time ago but I found no real support for it in Scripture.
Gene.
Seven is a number that may link to both the seven churches and the seven angels spoken of later.
Gene,
Sevenfold is a symbolic value in Scripture.
Psalm 79:12English Standard Version (ESV)
12
Return sevenfold into the lap of our neighbors
the taunts with which they have taunted you, O Lord!Gene,
There is a number of passages that use it in regards to vengeance and justice but here is one that goes with the context of Revelations better.
Isaiah 30:26English Standard Version (ESV)
26 Moreover, the light of the moon will be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun will be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day when the Lord binds up the brokenness of his people, and heals the wounds inflicted by his blow.
Hi Gene:
I believe that the following scripture will answer your question:
And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;Love in Christ,
Marty942767,
That passage only names three spirits at maximum though at least some of them are gifts of Spirit. It can be interpreted loosely to mean six but not seven. To get a seventh another passage is required and that makes it a very weak case.
kerwin…..Spirits are not angel. ANGELS are beings that require food to eat, manna, spirits do not require food. GOD makes their spirits they have just as he makes our spirits we have.
IN REVELATIONS, JESUS IS THE ONE SPEAKING AND HE HAS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD, THESE SEVEN SPIRITS ARE SPEAKING THROUGH HIM GIVING THEIR DESTINCT “TYPES” OF JUDGEMENTS, AND THAT IS WHY THOSE PATICULAR CHURCHES WERE CHOSE, EACH SPIRIT DEALS WITH A SPECIFIC PROBLEM THAT EXSISTS IN ALL CHURCHES, JESUS WILL USE THOSE SPECIFIC SPIRITS TO JUDGE ALL THE CHURCHES.
Remember we are told that “JUDGEMENT” begins with the house of GOD. It is those specific spirits that will judge all the churches, they represent THE FULLNESS OF GOD IN THE ANOINTED JESUS.
Notice also how they are individually spoken of, as “hear what the spirit (singular) say unto the churches (plural) ” you see that, that paticular spirit judges a paticular problem, but applies to “all” churches. JESUS HAS THOSE SEVEN SPIRITS IN HIM, and by them he is quilified to pass on their SEVEN DESTINCT JUDGEMENTS TO THE CHURCHES.
Did you notice how it is Jesus speaking, but tells us to hear what that spirit (singular) is judging about that main problem of “that paticular church, but he let us know that all seven spiits apply to all the churches. Those churches were destinct picked to show how the seven spirits will judge all church through Jesus Christ our lord. These seven destinct spirits are the eyes of GOD that go before the throne throne or power of GOD which He uses to Judge the whole world with, but judgement “beging” with the house (churches) of God, so it is nessary that the churches are judged by them, working through Jesus by the anointing on him.
He that has ears let him hear.
Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
NICK…..As i said, he that has an ear let him hear. YOUR belief that there is not seven “spirits” of God is contary to what scripture directly and “clearly” says, it is no wonder you are unable to comperhend what i have said and scripture also, it is your lack of understanding of what “SPRITS” are and what they produce in the person they are in, not mine.
ARE we to believe you false beiefs that Spirits are Angels, produce your scriptural support before you start to criticize me, show us a single scripture that says angels “are” spirits.
Judging me as self reliant is “your” opinion OF ME, without any foundation of proof by you, except “your” own mind. You have no idea of my past or present reliance on GOD THE FATHER, AND JESUS . I HAVE MY PROOFS OF MY RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM BOTH PAST AND PRESENT, DO YOU?
peace and love to you and yours. ……gene
Gene,
Spirits are not angel. ANGELS are beings that require food to eat, manna, spirits do not require food. GOD makes their spirits they have just as he makes our spirits we have.
I am afraid I do not understand Koine Greek enough to know whether or not the word spirit parallels the English word spirit in such a way as to cover beings that have physical bodies and eat food. I know the word daemon does so though I know of nowhere in Scripture where it is used that way.
I have looked in lexicons but the ones I have checked are too vague.
On the other hand I have heard the teaching that the seven eyes of God that roam to and fro throughout the earth are angels. I believe that is based on the fact that Satan and the angels that came before God in Job had gone too and fro throughout the earth and then came back to report to God.
In English they are spirits but then spirit does not mean immaterial in that case.
Kerwin……JESUS’ DEFINATION OF SPIRIT SHOWS, IT IS ARE NOT MATERIAL, AS THE WIND, spirit cannot be seen, but their effects can be seen. Also when he spoke of the unclean spirits leaving a man, and going about in “arid” or dry places, seeking rest, this shows that they seem to need bodies containing water to dwell in, in order to find rest. Also remember what JESUS SAID, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN OF SPIRIT “AND” WATER. NOT JUST SPIRIT BUT ALSO WATER, I BELIEVE HE WAS SAYING THAT WE MUST BE BORN AGAIN OF SPIRIT AND A BODY FOR THE SPIRIT TO DWELL IN.
Another point is that if angels being are spirits, how small are they because a man had a whole legion in him scripture tells us and they did not have bodies of their own, or why would they have intreated him to let the go into the swines. KERWIN scripture say Angels are Spirits, theywellhave spirits “in” them but they themselves are not just spirits but have bodies with spirits given them by God in them, just as we have bodies with spirits in us GIVEN BY GOD ALSO.
peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene
Gene,
As you say Jesus used a non material definition of spirit after he arose from the dead.
In English we more than one definition for the word spirit and the context determines the actual meaning of it.
kerwin…..I BELIEVE JESUS, DEFINATION IS BEST APPLIED TO ALL SCRIPTURES, WHAT I HAVE POSTED HAS SOLID SCRIPTURAL support, imo, and there is not a single scripture that even hints at Angels being spirits, as some here assume. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. ………gene
Gene,
If I knew Koine Greek better or had a good source of knowledge I could give a firm answer of it but Lexicons leave something to be desired. The only real link I have between the seven spirits and the seven angels is the number, the book, and the fact there is a teaching that there is a teaching that the seven eyes are seven angels. In addition the letters to the seven churches are addressed to seven angels. Of course angels translated from the Koine Greek word that means messengers and therefore the spirits may also be called messengers and not be angels at all.
Hi Gb,
Having cut loose the anchor you are now sailing according to your own fickle opinions.
Beware the rocks lest you make a shipwreck of your faith.
NICK…..That is your opinion, based on your “own” lack of understanding of what “some” scriptures are saying. should you make such judgemental calls, just because you lack the knowledge of what spirits are, THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD ARE “NOT” SEVEN ANGELS AS YOU “FALSELY” ASSUME NICK. If they were scripture would have said they were. it’s, not my fault you haven’t given us any clue as to what YOU BELIEVE spirits are, BUT JESUS HAS , AND HE NEVER SAID SPIRITS WERE ANGELS NOW DID HE NICK? Perhaps you have cut your anchor from you, NICK, all the while accusing others of.
LOOK if you can’t add to the topics we are talking about why try to derail them, if you have imput, them post it, personal attacks about our faith is not your position here nor ever was, and as far as our relationship with God the FATHER, and Jesus goes, each prson shall give an account of his own words and actions, who made you our accuser, just try to stick to the subject matter for a change, BROTHER ?
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
Nick…..Do spirits eat food, angels do, according to scriptures. Can we mix spirit up with flesh and blood or flesh and bone, as Jesus was raised with, Jesus said after he was resurected, and said it clearly, he was not a spirit as they supposed he was. Flesh is flesh and spirit is spirit they are not the same are they? Flesh can beget flesh, but Spirit begets spirit, but GOD CAN BEGET BOTH. Now if the “SPIRIT” OF HIM (GOD THE FATHER) that raised Jesus from the grave abide IN you, HE shall also quicken or bring to life, your “MORTAL” (BODY). SEEMS WE SHALL ALL NEED BODIES WITH SPIRITS IN THEM EVEN IN THE FUTURE,
Peace and love to you and yours………gene
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