The saved? and born again? is it true?

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  • #783270
    Wakeup
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    Terra.

    You have not changed.
    Always avoiding questions, but like to ask many questions, and demand an answer.

    wakeup

    #783271
    terraricca
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    j42

    Pierre

    Christ does the choosing at the end of the race.
    He knows in advance who his sheep are.
    He feeds his sheep.
    The true sheep who follow the shepherd are the chosen.
    We all like to think we are chosen, but that is not what the scripture says.
    In the end Christ decides who are true and who are not.

    The fallen ones, are still amongst the true sheep.
    But the real sheep only hear the true shepherd.
    The sheep all look the same, you can’t tell the difference from the outside,
    But Christ knows his sheep.
    Those he has “chosen” to feed will be manifested at the end of the race.

    The kingdom has to be cleaned out when the harvest is ready.
    Because many say they are in the kingdom, but Christ knows the hearts.

    right from memory your first sentence does not seem right ,for is it not God that gives to his son the 11 apostles +1 and all 144k are they not given to Christ by his father to be with them in heaven ?

    but to all other yes it is Christ and the 144k that are sitting as judges ,at the second resurrection

    there are no fallen ones like John says they did not stay in the truth for they never where from us if so they would never have stopped being with us ,

    it is the love for the truth of God that make us different than others and so show who are the ones in Christ and those than really never where in Christ from the beginning ,just like to be in the circle of the righteous ,and because of the humility of heart of the righteous they try to dominate them and so show their real face and heart ,anyone with God love will not do a thing like that for it works against the love of Christ ,

    1Jn 1:5 This is the message we have heard from him and declare to you: God is light; in him there is no darkness at all.
    1Jn 1:6 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth.
    1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin.
    1Jn 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
    1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
    1Jn 1:10 If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.
    1Jn 2:1 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
    1Jn 2:2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world.
    1Jn 2:3 We know that we have come to know him if we obey his commands.
    1Jn 2:4 The man who says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
    1Jn 2:5 But if anyone obeys his word, God’s love is truly made complete in him. This is how we know we are in him:
    1Jn 2:6 Whoever claims to live in him must walk as Jesus did.

    1Jn 2:7 Dear friends, I am not writing you a new command but an old one, which you have had since the beginning. This old command is the message you have heard.
    1Jn 2:8 Yet I am writing you a new command; its truth is seen in him and you, because the darkness is passing and the true light is already shining.
    1Jn 2:9 Anyone who claims to be in the light but hates his brother is still in the darkness.
    1Jn 2:10 Whoever loves his brother lives in the light, and there is nothing in him to make him stumble.

    1Jn 2:11 But whoever hates his brother is in the darkness and walks around in the darkness; he does not know where he is going, because the darkness has blinded him.

    1Jn 2:15 Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
    1Jn 2:16 For everything in the world—the cravings of sinful man, the lust of his eyes and the boasting of what he has and does—comes not from the Father but from the world.
    1Jn 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.

    1Jn 2:18 Dear children, this is the last hour; and as you have heard that the antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. This is how we know it is the last hour.
    1Jn 2:19 They went out from us, but they did not really belong to us. For if they had belonged to us, they would have remained with us; but their going showed that none of them belonged to us.

    1Jn 2:28 And now, dear children, continue in him, so that when he appears we may be confident and unashamed before him at his coming.
    1Jn 2:29 If you know that he is righteous, you know that everyone who does what is right has been born of him.

    those scriptures will validate what i am saying to you

    #783283
    Wakeup
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    Terra.

    You are a fox hiding in his fox hole.

    wakeup

    #783286
    terraricca
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    wup

    Terra.

    You are a fox hiding in his fox hole.

    wakeup

    and if it is because i stick to the scriptures that you say those words to me ? you right then ,for the i cannot and will not move away from the truth of God ,i rather stay in my hole as you say ,for in God’s truth there his life out side of it is death .

    many chose death for they have not come to know Christ and his father so they are wanderers

    #783296
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    He went through the waters of baptism and the baptism of the Spirit.

    Many claim to follow him but refuse these important matters

    #783302
    GeneBalthrop
    Participant

    Wakeup……….baptism of the flesh washes or cleans the flesh, baptism of the spirit washes or cleans the spirit. There is a physical baptism and there is a spritual baptism also.

    Tit 3:5….” Not by works of rightiousnes which we have done,but according to his mercy he has saved us, by the “WASHING” OF “REGENERATION” and renewing of the HOLY SPIRIT; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our saviour; that being justified by “HIS” grace we should be made heirs according to hope of eternal life.”

    EPH 5:26…..”Christ also loved the church and gave himself for it; That he might santify and cleans it, with the “WASHING” of water by the WORD”.

    Jesus said clearly “it is the spirit that quickens (brings to life); the flesh contributes, or profits nothing: the words that i speak unto you THEY “ARE” SPIRIT, AND THEY “ARE” LIFE.

    But we must also remember Jesus himself is not the word, that he spoke unto us, those words are from God the Father, himself. Jesus plainly said the words he spoke to us were not his words but the words of the Father who sent him. Jesus caries the “title” of the word, because he was speaking God’s words to us, butthat in no way makes himself the word, God alone is the true words which he speaks, no matter who he speakes his words through,a prophet or a son, makes no difference it still is God’s words himself. IMO

    Peace and love to you and yours………………gene

    #783304
    terraricca
    Participant

    anyone that want a light

    Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless he is born of water and the Spirit.

    Jn 4:14 but whoever drinks the water I give him will never thirst. Indeed, the water I give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life.”

    Jn 4:24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    hope you will understand these scriptures

    #783999
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Hi Gene.

     

    What about this?  Many will say :Lord Lord—–.    There will be gnashing of teeth.

    They have all been baptised with water or not? This means that just being baptised with water does not mean that you have the passport to heaven.

    First you must follow the commandments, then you will be baptised by the Holy spirit.

    Must proof yourself worthy first.

     

    Jesus was the Word made flesh. No one can change that. And He is still the Word of God. See rev. 19.

     

    wakeup.

    #784945
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi,

    Being reborn from above makes us children of promise.

    God is faithful but all creation awaits the revelation of the sons of God.

    the sons of God are not all those who have been reborn but those who are LED BY the Spirit.

    #784949
    NickHassan
    Participant

    Hi WU,

    Yes those who presume to be invited to the wedding feast without being garbed through water baptism[gal3.27] will also be shocked when they are discarded.

    Test the spirits

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