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Are all days equally sacred? (Ro 14:5,6)
No
These verses are parenthetical within a larger context concerning the controversy over food sacrificed to idols.
Note that no mention is made of the Sabbath.
Another controversy (regarding or not regarding certain days) is mentioned.
Another eating or not eating controversy (fasting) is linked to these days.
Thus, Paul mentions another needless controversy: fast days.
There is no command about regular fast days.
These days were based on the traditions of men. (Lk 18:12)
Note that the 4th commandment states that we are to work the first 6 days of every week.
If every day could be a Sabbath, then every day could be a work day for some and a rest day for others. This scheme would bring mass confusion to both corporate worship and corporate work. But God is a God of order. (1Co 14:33,40)
Does a salvation “rest” replace the Sabbath? (Heb 4:4,8-11)
No
Entering the promised land (which represents salvation) is referred to as entering into God's rest. (Heb 3:7-11)
The Sabbath rest is used here as symbolic of salvation by faith (without works). (Heb 4:4-6)
The people did not obtain salvation because of unbelief. (Heb 4:2,10,11)
The people practiced the letter of the law, but they did not internalize the law in their heart. (Heb 3:7-11, Heb 4:7) (compare Heb 8:10)
Another day (today) is being offered to everyone to receive salvation by faith. (Heb 3:12-15, Heb 4:7,8)
Salvation by faith has always been the only plan for salvation (since the foundation of the world). (Heb 4:3 compare Rev 13:8)
Rather than being replaced by salvation by faith, the Sabbath is a weekly reminder of our reliance on faith in Jesus, rather than works. (Ex 20:8-11, Ro 3:20,27,28)
Rather than being replaced by salvation by faith, the Sabbath provides one day each week to focus on and strengthen our faith. (Mk 2:27)
For what purpose are we to remember the Sabbath day?
Exodus 20:8, NIV. “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.”
When according to the Scripture does the Sabbath begin and end?
Leviticus 23:32, RSV. “From evening to evening shall you keep your Sabbath.”
When does evening begin?
Mark 1:32, RSV. “That evening, at sundown, they brought to Him all who were sick or possessed with demons.”
Work is not to be done on the Sabbath.
Exodus 20:9-10, NIV. “Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.”
What Sabbathkeeping counsel does Isaiah give?
Isaiah 58:13-14, TLB. “If you keep the Sabbath holy, not having your own fun and business on that day, but enjoying the Sabbath and speaking of it with delight as the Lord's holy day, and honoring the Lord in what you do, not following your own desires and pleasure, nor talking idly—then the Lord will be your delight, and I will see to it that you ride high, and get your full share of the blessings I promised to Jacob, your father. The Lord has spoken.”
What Sabbathkeeping counsel does Nehemiah give?
Nehemiah 13:15,19,22, NIV. “In those days I saw men in Judah treading winepresses on the Sabbath and bringing in grain and loading it on donkeys, together with wine, grapes, figs and all other kinds of loads. And they were bringing all this into Jerusalem on the Sabbath. Therefore I warned them against selling food on that day.
When evening shadows fell on the gates of Jerusalem before the Sabbath, I ordered the doors to be shut and not opened until the Sabbath was over. I stationed some of my own men at the gates so that no load could be brought in on the Sabbath day. Then I commanded the Levites to purify themselves and go and guard the gates in order to keep the Sabbath day holy. Remember me for this also, O my God, and show mercy to me according to your great love.
What evidence is there that the Sabbath was designed to be a day for public worship?
Leviticus 23:3, NIV. “There are six days when you may work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, a day of sacred assembly.”
Jesus suggested that the Sabbath hours be used for doing good deeds.
Matthew 12:11-12, NIV. “He said to them, 'If any of you has a sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will you not take hold of it and lift it out? How much more valuable is a man than a sheep! Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath.”
When and by whom was the Sabbath made?
Genesis 2:1-2, NIV. “By the seventh day God had finished the work He had been doing; so on the seventh day He rested from all His work. And God blessed the seventh day and made it holy, because on it He rested from all the work of creating that He had done.”
What is the reason for keeping the Sabbath day holy?
It is the memorial of creation.
Exodus 20:11, NIV. “For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but He rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy.”
For whom did Christ say the Sabbath was made?
Mark 2:27, NIV. “Then He said to them, 'The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.”
What does the fourth commandment require?
20:8-10, NIV. “Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to the Lord your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.”
What has God designated as a sign between Himself and His people?
Ezekiel 20:20, NIV. “Keep My Sabbaths holy, that they may be a sign between us. Then you will know that I am the Lord your God.”
The Sabbath is also a sign of sanctification.
Ezekiel 20:12, RSV. “Moreover I gave them my Sabbaths, as a sign between Me and them, that they might know that I the Lord sanctify them.”
In the new heaven and earth, how often will the redeemed worship the Lord?
Isaiah 66:22-23, NIV. “As the new heavens and the new earth that I make will endure before Me,” declares the Lord, “so will your name and descendants endure. From one New Moon to another and from one Sabbath to another, all mankind will come and bow down before Me,” says the Lord.”
While Christ was on earth, did He keep the Sabbath?
Luke 4:16, TLB. “When He came to the village of Nazareth, His boyhood home, He went as usual to the synagogue on Saturday, and stood up to read the Scriptures.”
What day immediately precedes the first day of the week?
Matthew 28:1, NIV. “After the Sabbath, at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.”
After the crucifixion, what day was kept by the women who followed Jesus?
Luke 23:56, NIV. “Then they went home and prepared spices and perfumes. But they rested on the Sabbath in obedience to the commandment.”
What day of the week is the Sabbath, “according to the commandment”?
Exodus 20:10, KJV. “But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.”
What was Paul's custom concerning the Sabbath?
Acts 17:2, NIV. “As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures.”
What did Christ say about the law of God of which the Sabbath commandment is a part?
Matthew 5:17-19, NIV. “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven.”
What kind of worship does the Savior call that which is not according to God's commandments?
Matthew 15:9, NIV. “They worship Me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.”
What are the characteristics of God's people at the end of time?
Revelation 14:12, NIV. “This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.”
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 02 2009,11:16) Quote (bodhitharta @ Nov. 01 2009,19:33) Quote (georg @ Nov. 01 2009,22:14) I read all of this in amazement because you all must be Jews.
Exodus 3:16 “Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath to observe it Sabbath throughout their generation as a perpetual covenant.verse 17 “It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever…
This is pretty clear tat the Sabbath is for the children of Israel. And they still keep it today.
Irene
One minute your Spiritual Israel and the next your not, which is it? I thought you were grafted in.
bodhitharta,You are already getting a picture of how georg seems to feel about Jew's, how you think georg feels about Muslim's, Arabians, Syrians, etc?
The “George” user name is used by two people so it is best to read the signature at the bottom to know whom you are speaking with.Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 02 2009,10:53) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 31 2009,21:42) MARTY………My point was Kerwin said they (the ten commandments) were not enforced and they were enforced . Law requires enforcement in order for it to be a LAW. This enforcement creates a Fear and respect for it. God's commandments were against our natures and their also. So Created a new Nature by transforming Us through His Spirit into a new creation that Naturally keep his commandments even if they were not written as in the case of the gentiles. But nothing is done away with in the ten commandments , they are fulfilled by the Spirit of GOD in Us. Not by the way (LAW) Works. IMO gene
So in this line of thought, does this mean at the judgment there will be NO ONE PUNISHED?
CT……….Judgment is for the every purpose of repentance, in order for us to see our lives were like apart from God's influencing (grace). Rev ” these loved (NOT) (THEIR) lives unto death” and again “not by power or by strength but by (MY) Spirit says the Eternal. Punishment does not change the heart, it can create fear which can control behavior, but that never changes the heart. The heart is changed by the SPIRIT of GOD, it is a creation GOD performs, no punishment can do that. WE are a (NEW) CREATION in GOD. Old things have passed away (old habits and ways we used to live) and replaced with a New and Living way. We are transformed by the renewing of our minds, through the works of the SPIRIT, not the (WORKS) of LAW. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………gene
Ct………………Your discourse on the Sabbath, is from the stand point of (LAW) it appears you do not see it in a SPIRITUAL perspective, I could be wrong but it does appear that way CT. It clearly say the Sabbath is a SIGN, what is that sign and in what way is it, what does the Sabbath symbolize as a whole. GOD is Spirit and we need to see what the Spirit is saying. Sabbath as well as all of GOD commandments are Spiritual and must be Spiritually perceived. All of GOD'S commandments are including the Sabbath. Viewing it from a physical 24 Hr sundown to sundown and all kind of Physical rituals was for the purpose of a spiritual principle for all mankind that shows the true principle of salvation of (ALL) mankind. It is by ceasing from our works and God working in us and this is not one 24 hour a week period but a eternal period time. IMO
peace and love
Constitutionalist,
Are these the days you are calling Sabbath celebrations?
This is what is written about them in the 2 Chronicles history.
2 Chronicles 8:13(NIV) reads:
Quote according to the daily requirement for offerings commanded by Moses for Sabbaths, New Moons and the three annual feasts—the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Tabernacles.
Quote (Gene @ Nov. 03 2009,01:51) Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 02 2009,10:53) Quote (Gene @ Oct. 31 2009,21:42) MARTY………My point was Kerwin said they (the ten commandments) were not enforced and they were enforced . Law requires enforcement in order for it to be a LAW. This enforcement creates a Fear and respect for it. God's commandments were against our natures and their also. So Created a new Nature by transforming Us through His Spirit into a new creation that Naturally keep his commandments even if they were not written as in the case of the gentiles. But nothing is done away with in the ten commandments , they are fulfilled by the Spirit of GOD in Us. Not by the way (LAW) Works. IMO gene
So in this line of thought, does this mean at the judgment there will be NO ONE PUNISHED?
CT……….Judgment is for the every purpose of repentance, in order for us to see our lives were like apart from God's influencing (grace). Rev ” these loved (NOT) (THEIR) lives unto death” and again “not by power or by strength but by (MY) Spirit says the Eternal. Punishment does not change the heart, it can create fear which can control behavior, but that never changes the heart. The heart is changed by the SPIRIT of GOD, it is a creation GOD performs, no punishment can do that. WE are a (NEW) CREATION in GOD. Old things have passed away (old habits and ways we used to live) and replaced with a New and Living way. We are transformed by the renewing of our minds, through the works of the SPIRIT, not the (WORKS) of LAW. IMOpeace and love to you and yours……………gene
G,
Judgement is judgement.
It comes after all the opportunities of life.
Creation must be purified and the dross goes into the fire prepared for the devil and his angels.The rest is of man.
Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 02 2009,08:12) Constitutionalist, Are these the days you are calling Sabbath celebrations?
This is what is written about them in the 2 Chronicles history.
2 Chronicles 8:13(NIV) reads:
Quote according to the daily requirement for offerings commanded by Moses for Sabbaths, New Moons and the three annual feasts—the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Tabernacles.
There is the Weekly Sabbath, and then there are the Yearly Sabbaths, there is a Marriage Sabbath for newlyweds (1 year honeymoon basically) and there is the Seventh Year Sabbath.Hi CON,
Covenants are agreements.
When and with whom was this agreement made?'The sabbath was made for man' is not a covenant and neither does it state it is for all men forever.
Having said that I am sure Jesus will show how it is to be lived when he returns but for now legal observances are an impediment to following the Spirit.
NICK………..The Sabbath was made for man and not man for the sabbath, is what Jesus said, then he went on to say He ALSO (like us) was lord of the sabbath to, like we are. But the question here is why was the sabbath made for man in the first place, what does it show us, what does it picture and why in the ten commandments , it must have been important or GOD would not have put it in His eternal commandments, that is my point Here. If you will investigate further you will come ot see GOD have something important in mind for man to learn by the sabbath, this ceasing from OUR WORKS is a very important process of salvation, and it is and eternal point if (ONLY ONE WILL IS TO BE DONE) in the future. To me it shows that only one will will be done and that we all must cease from our works and enter into a rest state in order for GOD to work through Us, you see it fits the whole plan of salvation the sabbath is a Physical example of a Spiritual principle that has to occur in order fro us to Be saved. It is very important from a SPIRITUAL STAND POINT.
You must understand those Israelites were carnal and GOD had to work with them in carnal way , so the Sabbath Day was a carnal way to work with them to show a SPIRITUAL PRINCIPLE. When GOD said the Sabbath was a sign He really meant it it is the sign of salvation for everyone He is dealing with. IMO
gene
Quote (Constitutionalist @ Nov. 02 2009,23:47) Quote (kerwin @ Nov. 02 2009,08:12) Constitutionalist, Are these the days you are calling Sabbath celebrations?
This is what is written about them in the 2 Chronicles history.
2 Chronicles 8:13(NIV) reads:
Quote according to the daily requirement for offerings commanded by Moses for Sabbaths, New Moons and the three annual feasts—the Feast of Unleavened Bread, the Feast of Weeks and the Feast of Tabernacles.
There is the Weekly Sabbath, and then there are the Yearly Sabbaths, there is a Marriage Sabbath for newlyweds (1 year honeymoon basically) and there is the Seventh Year Sabbath.
I am confused as I do not see all these days in reading the Law of Mosses. I have found the seventh day Sabbath and the seventh year Sabbath but the rest are not so clear. It is possible you are referring to the Day of Atonement as the yearly Sabbath but I have no idea what you are calling the marriage Sabbath. Could you help me find them in the books of Law?Quote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 02 2009,10:24) Hi CON,
Covenants are agreements.
When and with whom was this agreement made?'The sabbath was made for man' is not a covenant and neither does it state it is for all men forever.
Having said that I am sure Jesus will show how it is to be lived when he returns but for now legal observances are an impediment to following the Spirit.
Do we not define a covenant as a mutual agreement between two parties?Is that not the description by which we recognize a covenant in the Bible?
Exodus 31:12-18, “And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, [the children of Israel here have the meaning of the blood descendants of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, the twelve tribes, literally], “saying, Verily My Sabbaths ye shall keep: FOR IT IS A SIGN BETWEEN ME AND YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR GENERATIONS….”
Between God and whom?
The twelve tribes, or descendants of Jacob-Israel, God's chosen earthly race.
“That ye may know that I am the Lord that doth sanctify you.” Sanctify — set apart.
The Sabbath, then is their national sign, setting them apart from other nations and peoples, identifying them as God's chosen race.
Now does Sabbath keeping set one apart?
You and I know that it does.
The rest of the world sets us apart mighty quick when we begin to keep it.
“Ye shall keep the Sabbath, therefore; for it is holy unto you; everyone that defileth it shall surely be put to death.”
Now death ordinarily means “cut off,” generally from God.
For whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off FROM AMONG HIS PEOPLE.”
Cut off from God?
No, it says cut off from his people — Israel.
Cut off from being considered one of God's chosen earthly race of people.
So, then, consider an Israelite.
And, as you know, there is ample scriptural evidence that an outsider can be GRAFTED IN, and considered an ADOPTED child of Israel.
And this passage I am discussing tells what cuts one off, and what the national sign is.
Why does violation of the Sabbath cut one off from Israel?
“To observe the Sabbath throughout their generations, FOR A .”
Get that word COVENANT.
The Sabbath, then, is a covenant, all by itself.
And THIS covenant is given as a PERPETUAL covenant.
A WHOLLY SEPARATE AND DISTINCT COVENANT IN ITSELF.
Entirely apart from the Ten Commandments.
That is, God here takes ONE of those Ten Commandments, and makes a separate and distinct and perpetual covenant out of it.
God, the party of the first part, agrees to be their God that doth set them apart as His chosen people, provided the children of Israel, party of the second part, keep His Sabbath command.
Failure on the part of the party of the second part to perform their side of the covenant agreement annuls God's promise to keep His part of the agreement of setting them apart as His chosen people.
Thus, failure to keep the Sabbath breaks the covenant and cuts one off from being of Israel.
The passage continues, “It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel FOREVER.”
The Sabbath, here is presented as the SIGN which God gave to Israel between Him and them.
It formed a new and separate covenant.
THIS covenant is a perpetual covenant, to be a sign FOREVER.
Isaiah 56:3-7, and see, that by keeping the Sabbath, the national sign of Israel, an outsider may become grafted in.
I know Paul in the new Testament has quite a little to say about Gentiles becoming adopted Israelites, but Paul gives other qualifications.
Suppose now, the whole law, the Ten Commandments and all, were abolished, as the vast majority of churches contend.
Will any contend that this separate Sabbath covenant, this everlasting, perpetual covenant, was PART OF THE LAW OF MOSES?
I think they cannot.
It is distinctly separate, here.
A separate covenant by itself.
The national sign of Israel.
This covenant, surely, was not abolished at the Cross.
This covenant, surely, is still binding today.
Of course that involves the question of who, today is Israel?
Just the Jews?
The Jews who are the remnant of the house of Judah, plus the Ten Lost Tribes, who were a separate nation called the House of Israel.
Shall we say that Israel today is the saved people who keep the Sabbath, the national sign?
Paul appears to specify salvation and acceptance of Jesus Christ and His teachings as the requisite to becoming one of Israel.
According to this: Jewish Sabbath keepers who do not accept Jesus are cut off.
Further, according to Exodus 31:12-18, “converted” people who are not Jews, and who keep Sunday and not Sabbath, are not of Israel, because they have been cut off from Israel by rejecting Israel's national sign.
According to this, then, the body of Israel, today, becomes those who accept Jesus, observe His teachings and keep the Sabbath.
When we consider Israel in this light, ONLY Israel can be saved.
Hi CON,
We do not become Jews and steal their laws.
The body of Christ is joined with the Lord of the Sabbath.Con The Covenant that God made with Israel is not for the Gentles. Unless you are a Jew you are not under that Covenant. We now have the New Covenant in Jesus Blood, which was shed for us. You seem to forget that.
Luke 22:20…This cup is the new covenant in My Blood, which is shed for you.And Jesus gives us the Commandment of that Covenant in
Math. 22:37 Jesus said to him:” You shall love the LORD your God with all of your heart, and with all of your soul, and with all of your mind.”
verse 38
“This is the first and great commandment.
verse 39
“And the second is like it:” You shall love your neighbor as yourself.”
verse 40
“On these two commandments hang all of the Law.The only thing that is not like the old covenant is the Sabbath. And let me bring that up because the Sabbath was a sign between God and Israel.
Exodus 31:16
Therefore the children of Israel shall keep the Sabbath, to observe the Sabbath throughout their generation as a perpetual covenant.
verse 17
“It is a sign between Me and the children of Israel forever;….There you have it.
Peace and Love IreneCon………That you may Know that (I) am the LORD that does Sanctify You. Notice what it says, GOD is the Sanctifier and in order for them to understand that they must enter into rest. Other wise they would be working their own sanctification (setting apart) themselves. The Sabbath is made for (MAN) Jesus said He did not say for Israel only as you seem to think. I contend that the Sabbath is the sign of the salvation work of GOD for (ALL) mankind. Anyone who is going to be a son or daughter of GOD must keep the (Spiritual) SABBATH, that is not just a 24 hr period it is every day we must let GOD work in US through His Spirit. We must learn to submit to the WILL of GOD every day and in so doing we are keeping the Sabbath rest, which was given for a sign to all people. IMO
gene
The law is written in reference to works not faith.
Everyman is rewarded in heaven or condemned in hell based on his works…
His place of choosing is based on his faith in Jesus Christ and The Father.
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If you keep the sabbath you will be rewarded for it in heaven, or your punishment in hell will not be as bad as some others.If you do not keep the sabbath…there will be no “sabbath reward” in heaven…and in hell it'll be counted against you.
This is my belief…
Remebe in revelations, the center court is reserved for Jews…the outer court is for the gentiles.
This shows that even in the new earth, God will seperate Jew from Gentile.
There has to be a reason why there is still a segregation…and I think the laws define what that reason is.
Quote (Gene @ Nov. 04 2009,01:56) Con………That you may Know that (I) am the LORD that does Sanctify You. Notice what it says, GOD is the Sanctifier and in order for them to understand that they must enter into rest. Other wise they would be working their own sanctification (setting apart) themselves. The Sabbath is made for (MAN) Jesus said He did not say for Israel only as you seem to think. I contend that the Sabbath is the sign of the salvation work of GOD for (ALL) mankind. Anyone who is going to be a son or daughter of GOD must keep the (Spiritual) SABBATH, that is not just a 24 hr period it is every day we must let GOD work in US through His Spirit. We must learn to submit to the WILL of GOD every day and in so doing we are keeping the Sabbath rest, which was given for a sign to all people. IMO gene
G,
So you will only teach according to scripture now?
You will rest from your own ideas and let the Spirit of Christ remind us of what is written?Good.
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