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- November 18, 2008 at 9:04 pm#112159NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
The sons of God are the sons of the resurrection. This is the first resurrection. They are raised in the same way as the Son of God, by the faithful Spirit of God indwelling them from the moment of their rebirth and despite their physical death, unto forever. Those who do not share that Spirit cannot be raised in the first resurrection into the Millenial kingdom.November 18, 2008 at 10:52 pm#112168chosenoneParticipant15 For this we are saying to you by the word of the Lord, that we, the living, who are surviving to the presence of the Lord, should by no means outstrip those who are put to repose,
16 for the Lord Himself will be descending from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the Chief Messenger, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ shall be rising first,
17 Thereupon we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds, to meet the Lord in the air. And thus shall we always be together with the Lord.
18 So that, console one another with these words.Notice: “Thereupon we, the living who are surviving, shall at the same time be snatched away together with them in clouds”
Are the living part of the first reurrection? You need to study scripture more ernestly.
November 18, 2008 at 10:59 pm#112171NickHassanParticipantCO,
There is only one group that God calls THE LIVING and those are the ones who are ALIVE IN HIS SPIRIT.This includes many great men of the OT
Matthew 22:32
I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.November 18, 2008 at 11:03 pm#112173chosenoneParticipantSame question, “are the living resurrected?”
November 18, 2008 at 11:15 pm#112176NickHassanParticipantCO,
All rise but in order.
Christ first.
Then the living.
Then the hopefulNovember 19, 2008 at 1:01 am#112177chosenoneParticipantCan't find scripture in my bible that says that.
November 19, 2008 at 10:06 pm#112201NickHassanParticipantCO,
Speaking to the saved in Corinth Paul said of the first resurrection.
1Cor 15
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
The END includes the second resurrection and the judgement of the nations.
November 19, 2008 at 11:31 pm#112205chosenoneParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2008,09:06) CO,
Speaking to the saved in Corinth Paul said of the first resurrection.
1Cor 15
22For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.23But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
The END includes the second resurrection and the judgement of the nations.
The correct translation for verse 24:24 thereafter the consummation, whenever He may be giving up the kingdom to His God and Father, whenever He should be nullifying all sovereignty and all authority and power.
An incorrect translation that you use says …”Then cometh the end,”
There will be no “END”, only the “consummation” the completeing of Gods “creation”, then He (God) will be “All in all”.
November 20, 2008 at 12:10 am#112208NickHassanParticipantCO,
The holy residue.November 20, 2008 at 1:26 am#112216chosenoneParticipantNick. ?
November 20, 2008 at 1:31 am#112220NickHassanParticipantCO,
The remnants of the crucible purification of creation.November 20, 2008 at 1:35 am#112224chosenoneParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Nov. 20 2008,12:31) CO,
The remnants of the crucible purification of creation.
Meaning?November 20, 2008 at 1:38 am#112227NickHassanParticipantCO,
Luke 12:49
“I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!Hebrews 12:29
For our God is a consuming fire.That fire is of purification.
2 Peter 3:7
But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.2 Peter 3:12
Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?November 20, 2008 at 1:39 am#112229chosenoneParticipantTo the Jews.
November 20, 2008 at 1:40 am#112231NickHassanParticipantCO,
If you say so.
God does not force feed anyone.March 25, 2014 at 4:02 am#374803NickHassanParticipantHi,
Christ Jesus has been raised.
We who are in him will be taken up to meet with himThe first resurrection
March 25, 2014 at 7:10 am#374819WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 25 2014,15:02) Hi,
Christ Jesus has been raised.
We who are in him will be taken up to meet with himThe first resurrection
Nick.The We: are the minority.
The rest are the majority.
Will also be resurrected; after gone through the fire.
After their robes have gone through the washing machine.
And made white.wakeup.
March 25, 2014 at 12:21 pm#374825GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup……..Good point Fire indeed in scriptures can mean “INTENSE JUDGEMENT” , which can cause the dross to come to the surface so it can be removes leaving what is left pure. Even our Law function as a fire to bring to surface the evil even in this world.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gernr
March 25, 2014 at 4:39 pm#374837WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 25 2014,23:21) Wakeup……..Good point Fire indeed in scriptures can mean “INTENSE JUDGEMENT” , which can cause the dross to come to the surface so it can be removes leaving what is left pure. Even our Law function as a fire to bring to surface the evil even in this world. peace and love to you and yours………………………………….gernr
GeneB.Yes; but there are only a few with no dross.
They are the ones that follow the Lamb wheresoever He goes.wakeup.
March 25, 2014 at 7:50 pm#374853NickHassanParticipantHi,
Rev 7
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
They came OUT OF the great tribulation.
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