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Hi all,
This list is some of the things that Jesus is NOT THE SOURCE OF and therefore not the Most High God who MUST BE the source of ALL GOOD THINGS…i.e. His Father. I do believe that Jesus is the begotten God however, just not the Most High God who brought Him forth in the beginning. Some credit Jesus as the Most High God but how can that be if He is NOT the source of so many things.
All these things were GIVEN to Jesus which means He was not the ultimate source of these things:
Authority
All things
All judgment
Works to accomplish
Those that will come to Him which He will raise up on the last day
The good works that He showed the Jews
A commandment as to what to say and what to speak
Authority over all flesh
The work, which the Father had given Him to do
The words “which You gave Me”
The Father ‘s name
The glory
The cup “which the Father has given me”You can find these things in these verses:
Matt 28:18
18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, “All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
NASU
John 3:35
35 “The Father loves the Son and has given all things into His hand.
NASU
John 5:22
22 “For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son
NASU
John 5:36
36 “But the testimony which I have is greater than the testimony of John; for the works which the Father has given Me to accomplish — the very works that I do — testify about Me, that the Father has sent Me.
NASU
John 6:32-33
32 Jesus then said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven.
33 “For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and gives life to the world.”
NASU
John 6:37-39
37 “All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.
38 “For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
39 “This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.
NASU
John 10:25-32
25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father's name, these testify of Me.
26 “But you do not believe because you are not of My sheep.
27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;
28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.
29 “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand.
30 “I and the Father are one.”
31 The Jews picked up stones again to stone Him.
32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?”
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John 12:49-50
49 “For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.
50 “I know that His commandment is eternal life; therefore the things I speak, I speak just as the Father has told Me.”
NASU
John 13:3-4
3 Jesus, knowing that the Father had given all things into His hands, and that He had come forth from God and was going back to God,
4 got up from supper, and laid aside His garments; and taking a towel, He girded Himself.
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John 17:2-3
2 even as You gave Him authority over all flesh, that to all whom You have given Him, He may give eternal life.
3 “This is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
NASU
John 17:4
4 “I glorified You on the earth, having accomplished the work which You have given Me to do.
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John 17:7-8
7 “Now they have come to know that everything You have given Me is from You;
8 for the words which You gave Me I have given to them; and they received them and truly understood that I came forth from You, and they believed that You sent Me.
NASU
John 17:9-12
9 “I ask on their behalf; I do not ask on behalf of the world, but of those whom You have given Me; for they are Yours;
10 and all things that are Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine; and I have been glorified in them.
11 “I am no longer in the world; and yet they themselves are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep them in Your name, the name which You have given Me, that they may be one even as We are.
12 “While I was with them, I was keeping them in Your name which You have given Me; and I guarded them and not one of them perished but the son of perdition, so that the Scripture would be fulfilled.
NASU
John 17:22-24
22 “The glory which You have given Me I have given to them, that they may be one, just as We are one;
23 I in them and You in Me, that they may be perfected in unity, so that the world may know that You sent Me, and loved them, even as You have loved Me.
24 “Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.
NASU
John 18:11
11 So Jesus said to Peter, “Put the sword into the sheath; the cup which the Father has given Me, shall I not drink it?”
NASUNever the less, we are to honor the Son as we honor the Father. I am happy to honor the Son…He is worthy!
God bless,
KathiQuote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 01 2009,09:47) Hi ev,
She is no surrogate but the true mother of the Son of man, Jesus Christ.
He was The Son of Man, yet also The Son of God.I believe he was a man, yet also God.
Hi Lighten up,
You said, “Never the less, we are to honor the Son as we honor the Father.”
Being that Jesus did nothing by himself, but received all power, knowledge and authority from His Father YHWH, and that Jesus was sent that we may come to KNOW the One True God the Father, doesn't that give them different glory for DIFFERENT reasons? As well, doesn't that give the Father glory ABOVE Jesus, since without the Father Jesus would be NOTHING?
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Sep. 03 2009,13:51) Hi LU,
God expected his prophets to be honored too.
See the vineyard owner parable
Except Jesus is to be honored EVEN AS the Father is honored. This is why all judgment has been committed to Him (John 5). None of the other prophets had all judgment committed to them.thinker
TO All………..Jesus does (NOT) Share the (SAME) position as the FATHER DOES, NOW or ever Will. Or why would He turn His KINGDOM over to the FATHER and BE SUBJECT to HIM?. It is because He will rule by the (AUTHORITY) of GOD the FATHER, Not because HE IS GOD. GOD gives him His Seven SPIRITS with POWER to exercise His Authority on EARTH, during the Millennial Reign of Christ. But after the Jesus turns it back over to the FATHER, (“that God may be (ALL) and in (ALL”). ONE GOD in ALL things>ONE WILL working in ALL things, Not some triune GOD'S, Just ONE GOD> IMO
peace and love to you all………………………………gene
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