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- December 14, 2008 at 6:23 pm#114074NickHassanParticipant
Hi,
The sons of the resurrection rule and reign with Christ over the nations.
But there are no more found as sons till the second resurrection.February 9, 2009 at 1:52 am#120868NickHassanParticipantHi,
WE must be overcomersRevelation 2:26
' He who overcomes, and he who keeps My deeds until the end, TO HIM I WILL GIVE AUTHORITY OVER THE NATIONS;1 John 5:5
Who is the one who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?February 9, 2009 at 2:55 am#120869GeneBalthropParticipantNick…. why don't you quote ” He that overcomes (even as i Have)”. Is it because you want to separate us from Jesus' exactness? Interesting you choice of scriptures. Ask yourself why did you leave this one out.
peace……………..gene
February 9, 2009 at 3:02 am#120870NickHassanParticipantGB,
You make unwarranted implications.
Rev3
20Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.21To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
22He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.
These are things written to the saved.
They have to get off their couches and learn to be overcomers in the bountiful grace of God.February 9, 2009 at 3:16 am#120875GeneBalthropParticipantNick………I thought it was(WE) will, the FATHER and Christ. You again leave the Father out, why is that Nick. Can't you see what you are doing Brother. Your making it all about Jesus and leaving the FATHER out, this Jesus (NEVER) did. Nick i think you still have some of the Catholic teachings still in you brother. It's not about Jesus is About the WILL of the FATHER and if Jesus were here He would tell you the same thing, Brother. The son of Man can do nothing of Himself. You need to remember that Nick, neither can you or I.
peace……………………gene
March 30, 2009 at 3:42 am#125929NickHassanParticipantHi,
This is the kingdom hope of those who follow Jesus.
To reign and rule with him for 1000 years.March 30, 2009 at 6:36 am#125938CindyParticipantNick
What exactly will happen during the 1000 years?
Who will Christ rule over?
What happens after the 1000 years, I mean, after he turns the kingdom over to the Father?Georg
March 30, 2009 at 9:21 am#125947NickHassanParticipantHi Georg,
Read Lk 19 and you will see sons appointed to rule over cities.
Others will be priests unto our God and others as judges[Rev19].The King of Kings will rule the earth and his Father through him.
The kingdom once restored to order and cleansed of sin and death will become the Father's kingdom.March 30, 2009 at 9:52 am#125957CindyParticipantNick
Have you ever wondered what this scripture means?
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
I mean, especially this part, (“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end,”).
Georg
March 30, 2009 at 2:34 pm#125964KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Cindy @ Mar. 30 2009,21:52) Nick Have you ever wondered what this scripture means?
Isa 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.
I mean, especially this part, (“Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end,”).
Georg
Georg,
This scripture does not teach that the Son's rule is endless in time. Paul said that the Son would yield the kingdom to the Father. So His reign cannot be endless in time.An earthly king's reign was limited in its SCOPE, that is, it was limited to a certain geographical area and limited to a certain people. But this is not the case with Christ's reign. His reign extends to all geographical areas and He reigns over all peoples. This is what is meant in the saying “of the INCREASE of His rule there shall be NO END.
It was referring to the SCOPE of His reign. Christ's reign is endless in reference to the boundaries and the subjects under Him.
thinker
March 30, 2009 at 6:17 pm#125980NickHassanParticipantHi Georg,
There is no end to the rule of God on earth, begun two thousand years ago and now all over the world, to be made complete under the reign of Jesus as King in Jerusalem and then handed back to the Father.March 30, 2009 at 6:36 pm#125985GeneBalthropParticipantNick………So tell us why all the world comes against Jesus and the Sataints at the end of the 1000 year Period then, as soon as EVIL is reintroduces back into the earth?. Why is that Nick seeing all the earth have been taught by Jesus and the Saints about GOD and Have been obeying all his commandments for a 1000 years. God the Father is proving a point do you know what it i?. It will clearify much if you do. IMO
love and peace to you and yours brother……………………………………………………gene
March 30, 2009 at 6:55 pm#125990NickHassanParticipantG,
There will be more than the saints present during this time.
Natural men shall survive the tribulation.March 30, 2009 at 8:22 pm#126000KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,06:55) G,
There will be more than the saints present during this time.
Natural men shall survive the tribulation.
Nick,
What Bible are you reading man? The tribulation came to pass in Jesus' own generation. He told His disciples that THEY would see it. There is no millennium.thinker
March 30, 2009 at 8:40 pm#126005NickHassanParticipantHi tt,
We have yet to see Is 24.
The 1000 year reign is well shown in sacred scripture-Rev20.March 30, 2009 at 8:54 pm#126009KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,08:40) Hi tt,
We have yet to see Is 24.
The 1000 year reign is well shown in sacred scripture-Rev20.
Nick,
The word is “thousands of years” in Revelation 20.thinker
March 30, 2009 at 9:05 pm#126010NickHassanParticipantHi TT,
The day of the Lord is a thousand years[Ps90, 2 Peter]Rev20
2And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
It is the sabbath seventh day of rest.
Heb4
3For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.4For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
Six thousand years have passed, two thousand since the Messiah.
The day of the Lord approaches.March 30, 2009 at 10:49 pm#126038KangarooJackParticipantNick said:
Quote The day of the Lord is a thousand years[Ps90, 2 Peter] So the thousand years is not literal and there is no millennium. Jesus reigned (or will reign) for only one day. You make things too easy for me Nick.
thinker
March 30, 2009 at 10:52 pm#126039NickHassanParticipantHi tt,
Do you not claim to be a thinker?
Ps 90
4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.March 30, 2009 at 11:44 pm#126043KangarooJackParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2009,10:52) Hi tt,
Do you not claim to be a thinker?
Ps 90
4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
Nick,
Do you believe in a literal thousand year reign or not?thinker
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