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- April 6, 2014 at 12:19 am#376478WakeupParticipant
Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,09:27) Hi WU,
God will still be in heaven. He will be on earth as He was with the Israelites34.Exodus 25:8
And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.35.Exodus 29:45
And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.36.Exodus 29:46
And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the Lord their God.
Nick.yes; and we will see him face to face.
But not at the coming.wakeup.
April 6, 2014 at 6:50 am#376547Ed JParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ April 06 2014,11:19) Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 06 2014,09:27) Hi WU,
God will still be in heaven. He will be on earth as He was with the Israelites34.Exodus 25:8
And let them make me a sanctuary; that I may dwell among them.35.Exodus 29:45
And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God.36.Exodus 29:46
And they shall know that I am the Lord their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the Lord their God.
Nick.yes; and we will see him face to face.
But not at the coming.wakeup.
“And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God
and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:
And they shall see his face; and his name shall be in their foreheads.” (Rev 22:3-4)April 6, 2014 at 3:07 pm#376599GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup……….. Rev 21:3-5 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming “DOWN” from God out of “HEAVEN” prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (3) and i heard a great voice “OUT OF HEAVEN” saying, Behold the tabernacle of God is with “MEN” and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (4) and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away. (5) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make “ALL THINGS NEW” ….>
Wakeup look up the word “NEW” there and you will see it means “to refresh” or make fresh. Also notice there are still tears from eyes present, and that can only be in human being with bodies. Your false assumption of us being changed to SPIRITS “BODIES” is not true. No such thing exists as a SPIRIT “BODY”.
Read the rest of those following scriptures and you will see it is talking about even the Kings of the “EARTH” do bring their glory and honor into the city of God, which shall be built in the earth.
God will regenerate this earth to its former Glory and human being will walk in it.
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
April 6, 2014 at 3:37 pm#376601WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ April 07 2014,02:07) Wakeup……….. Rev 21:3-5 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming “DOWN” from God out of “HEAVEN” prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. (3) and i heard a great voice “OUT OF HEAVEN” saying, Behold the tabernacle of God is with “MEN” and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. (4) and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain; for the former things are passed away. (5) And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make “ALL THINGS NEW” ….> Wakeup look up the word “NEW” there and you will see it means “to refresh” or make fresh. Also notice there are still tears from eyes present, and that can only be in human being with bodies. Your false assumption of us being changed to SPIRITS “BODIES” is not true. No such thing exists as a SPIRIT “BODY”.
Read the rest of those following scriptures and you will see it is talking about even the Kings of the “EARTH” do bring their glory and honor into the city of God, which shall be built in the earth.
God will regenerate this earth to its former Glory and human being will walk in it.
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Gene B.1. Jerusalem is coming down from heaven yes.
But you did not explain why, or how come.2.The kingdom suppose to be on earth,not in heaven.??
Explain!3.Flesh can not see God. Those are all the resurrected.
4. They are spirit,obviously no more tears and pain **AND DEATH**This would be after the second death.
5.Can you imagine God sitting on a pile of rubbish?
Do you know what men has build under ground?
There are hundreds of big cities with roads,busses and trains
under;Europe,Russia, China india,korea,japan,the Americas,
Usa, Mexico,australia,canada,and many more.6.The kings of the earth will be all the kingdoms of Gog and magog. Outside the kingdom of God.
7. You can not proof that there are no such as spirit bodies.
Just assumptions.opinion.8.You are not hearing Jesus words, He said: you are spirit; like the wind.
9. Peter said; the earth will melt;have you seen lava?
wakeup.
April 6, 2014 at 6:47 pm#376638NickHassanParticipantHi,
The renewed earth will have no Sea.
Was there sea before the waters of the deep rose up in the time of Noah?April 6, 2014 at 11:35 pm#376693WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 07 2014,05:47) Hi,
The renewed earth will have no Sea.
Was there sea before the waters of the deep rose up in the time of Noah?
Nick.Read Gen 1.
wakeup.
April 7, 2014 at 2:54 am#376738NickHassanParticipantQuite so WU thanks
April 7, 2014 at 3:29 pm#376776GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup………The word sea can in symbolism be referencing mankind, like the sea of humanity, that verse in Rev could be referencing that there will be no “MORE” human Berths any longer. I do not believe it means the literal oceans , it could be that but i don't think it is, we must remember Revelations was “Signified” or SYMBOLIZED, so we do need to be careful how we handle its writings. IMO
peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene
April 7, 2014 at 4:07 pm#376783WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ April 08 2014,02:29) Wakeup………The word sea can in symbolism be referencing mankind, like the sea of humanity, that verse in Rev could be referencing that there will be no “MORE” human Berths any longer. I do not believe it means the literal oceans , it could be that but i don't think it is, we must remember Revelations was “Signified” or SYMBOLIZED, so we do need to be careful how we handle its writings. IMO peace and love to you and yours……………………………………gene
GeneB.After the earth was melted;ther is no more sea.
Spirit creatures dont need sea.Revelation 21:1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.
wakeup.
April 11, 2014 at 10:14 pm#377398NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Does need come into it?April 15, 2014 at 2:31 am#378016NickHassanParticipantHi,
heb 4
The rest
Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7 Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
10 For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
11 Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
April 15, 2014 at 7:02 pm#378085NickHassanParticipantHi,
The seventh day rest=milleniumApril 16, 2014 at 11:55 pm#378203GeneBalthropParticipantNick………That is right on, for a day with God is as a thousand years, and for the people of God there remains a 1000 year rest. It is the Millennium period of time.
peace and love to you and yours………………………………………..gene
June 4, 2014 at 7:36 am#386876NickHassanParticipantHI,
Rev 20,
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
Hi,
This comprises the first resurrection. These have been taken up humanly live or dead into the millenial kingdom.
My thoughts
The apostles were promised they would sit on thrones and judge the tribes of Israel.The rest are beheaded [they submit to the head] for witnessing to the man Jesus and the Word he was joined as one with in the anointing at the Jordan.
They are dead in baptism so they can be raised by the Spirit in the first resurrection.
These matters are the same issues Peter and Paul spoke of in Acts. This is the everlasting gospel.
Then after 1000 years comes the judgement
June 4, 2014 at 11:31 pm#387012journey42ParticipantJune 5, 2014 at 1:44 am#387082journey42ParticipantJune 5, 2014 at 1:46 am#387083WakeupParticipantIt is best to play ostrich with the heads in the sand.
For they say:we are born again and saved;
no evil can come to us,for God is with us.wakeup.
June 5, 2014 at 1:47 am#387084NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes it would be better for you to be reborn.
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