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- March 31, 2014 at 5:06 am#375627GeneBalthropParticipant
Wakeup………..We will have physical bodies in the resurrection . Just as Jesus had and still has. IMO
The valley of dried bones in the book of Ezekiel proves what the resurection will be like, and it plainly say this is the whole house of Israel. Mankind is the Crown Jewel of GOD'S CREATION, there is no higher order then MAN, not even the Angels, For God has put “ALL THINGS” under the foot of MAN ,and in that HE say “ALL” thing , there is “NOTHING” that is not under MAN FEET.” The book of the Hebrews .Peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
March 31, 2014 at 5:16 am#375629NickHassanParticipantHi Gene,
Jesus was raised in the tattered and torn old body
We will be as he is when he returns
It will not be like that.March 31, 2014 at 5:45 am#375635WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Mar. 31 2014,16:06) Wakeup………..We will have physical bodies in the resurrection . Just as Jesus had and still has. IMO
The valley of dried bones in the book of Ezekiel proves what the resurection will be like, and it plainly say this is the whole house of Israel. Mankind is the Crown Jewel of GOD'S CREATION, there is no higher order then MAN, not even the Angels, For God has put “ALL THINGS” under the foot of MAN ,and in that HE say “ALL” thing , there is “NOTHING” that is not under MAN FEET.” The book of the Hebrews .Peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
Geneb.Dont ignore Jesus words.
Matthew 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Angels are spirit creatures.
We will be like them.
Micha'el is also a spirit creature.
The four beasts around God's throne
are also spirit creatures.Satan and his angels are also spirit creature.
The flesh will be done away with.
No more flesh;all will be spirit.
When you are born of the spirit; you are SPIRIT.
Dont degrade it to flesh again.wakeup.
March 31, 2014 at 5:52 am#375637WakeupParticipantPaul was blinded by the light.
The apostles and Mary were not.
See His coming rev19. His eyes as flames of fire.
The apostles and Mary did not see Him as He really is.wakeup.
March 31, 2014 at 3:34 pm#375648GeneBalthropParticipantWakeup………When Moses came down from the mountain His face Shined so that he had to put a vaiil over it, but he still was a Physical beings with a physical body, Our bodied can be glorified but still be Bodies , and Angels do have bodies according to scriptures they eat and drank. Pauls sia dour bodies will die in weakness but will be raised in Power and Glory, The word “IT” he used there was speaking of a Physical body becasue it was the It that dided in weakness, the Spirit does not die at all and is not weak, only the bodiy is. and It (the body is raised up to glory, the Spirit is not raised up, because the spirit goes back to God who gave it in the first place, when we die according to scripture. Spirit do not have bodies they are what is “IN” Bodies, and that is what makes a LIVING SOUL.
There would not even be the need for a resurrection, if it did not include a Physical body right?. for we look forward to the
Resurrection, that will witness the “REDEMPTION OF “OUR” BODIES. There is no such thing as a Spirit body of any kind . IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene
March 31, 2014 at 3:45 pm#375649GeneBalthropParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 31 2014,16:16) Hi Gene,
Jesus was raised in the tattered and torn old body
We will be as he is when he returns
It will not be like that.
Nick………..I was not trying to compare the types of bodies, Just that a Resurrection is about a physical body, howbeit a “glorified” Physical Body. But still Physical and none the less therefore, a physical body. That is what a RESURRECTION is all about right?For we looking forward to the Resurrection that will witness the “REDEMPTION OF “OUR BODIES” according to Paul.
peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene
March 31, 2014 at 6:03 pm#375656NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
Rom8
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.This does not say that 1Cor 15 is wrong and we will not rise in new bodies
March 31, 2014 at 8:50 pm#375674NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
1Cor 15
35 But some man will say, How are the dead raised up? and with what body do they come?36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
37 And that which thou sowest, thou sowest not that body that shall be, but bare grain, it may chance of wheat, or of some other grain:
38 But God giveth it a body as it hath pleased him, and to every seed his own body.
39 All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.
40 There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another.
41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory.
42 So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
43 It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy; the second man is the Lord from heaven.
48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
This is the redemption of the body
March 31, 2014 at 11:17 pm#375691WakeupParticipantQuote (Gene Balthrop @ April 01 2014,02:34) Wakeup………When Moses came down from the mountain His face Shined so that he had to put a vaiil over it, but he still was a Physical beings with a physical body, Our bodied can be glorified but still be Bodies , and Angels do have bodies according to scriptures they eat and drank. Pauls sia dour bodies will die in weakness but will be raised in Power and Glory, The word “IT” he used there was speaking of a Physical body becasue it was the It that dided in weakness, the Spirit does not die at all and is not weak, only the bodiy is. and It (the body is raised up to glory, the Spirit is not raised up, because the spirit goes back to God who gave it in the first place, when we die according to scripture. Spirit do not have bodies they are what is “IN” Bodies, and that is what makes a LIVING SOUL. There would not even be the need for a resurrection, if it did not include a Physical body right?. for we look forward to the
Resurrection, that will witness the “REDEMPTION OF “OUR” BODIES. There is no such thing as a Spirit body of any kind . IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………………….gene
GeneB.The dead bodies(flesh) has turned to dust.
It is the spirit in us that will be given a spirit body,
just like the angels.There is a body of flesh; and there is a body of spirit.
Jesus will come in his spirit body,not in His flesh body.
A spirit body can manifest itself into flesh.
The angels have done it,and Jesus has done it.There is no such as flesh in heaven.
Heaven itself is not flesh.
God is not flesh.The spirit that is in man is spirit,not flesh.
The flesh is the temple of God.All will be IN CHRIST,AND CHRIST IN GOD.
If all will be flesh, that would be a bit crowded.wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 2:53 am#375765NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
When we die we lose our own spirit[ecc 12]
Only those reborn from above can live eternallyApril 1, 2014 at 7:50 am#375776WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,13:53) Hi WU,
When we die we lose our own spirit[ecc 12]
Only those reborn from above can live eternally
There are many strange doctrines spread during the ages.
Very.very strange doctrines,because of lack of knowledge.
And the seeds has grown amongst the good seeds.
The enemy has sown the bad seeds during the night.wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 8:17 am#375785NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Let the knowledge be soundly based on scripture.
Otherwise it has no valueApril 1, 2014 at 8:40 am#375790WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 01 2014,19:17) Hi WU,
Let the knowledge be soundly based on scripture.
Otherwise it has no value
Nick.This is a true saying;but have to check first,
or we can not tell if it is truly false.
We can not wipe any doctrine with one brush.
Most will NOT SEE because of love for own doctrine.wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 5:45 pm#375816NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Test all things.April 1, 2014 at 10:06 pm#375855WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,04:45) Hi WU,
Test all things.
Nick.Test all things, is not judge all things.
Judge only with scriptures,and judge after the evidence
has been thoroughly examined.wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 10:09 pm#375856NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
SEEing only comes after rebirth. jn3False teachers care little for revealed truth as they have a mission to promote their own ideas
April 1, 2014 at 11:07 pm#375875WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,09:09) Hi WU,
SEEing only comes after rebirth. jn3False teachers care little for revealed truth as they have a mission to promote their own ideas
Nick.You dont realise that the doctrine you have received and
accepted is of men. Yes,but you dont know that do you?
Therfore are there many churches: and all teaching their own thing.We have one Holy Spirit;we have one TRUE CHURCH.
And you are not in that church. You are in one of the many.
There were seven in the early days,and all are blemished.
There are thousands today,and all are severely blemished.
Only one is the true church, and that church is in the hearts
of the true seekers.wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm#375876NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
To be judged by you to not be in the false church based on speculation and deception is fine by me.April 1, 2014 at 11:25 pm#375882WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ April 02 2014,10:13) Hi WU,
To be judged by you to not be in the false church based on speculation and deception is fine by me.
Nick.The words that was spoken by Jesus, judged you;not me.
Meaning the scriptures do the judging.There are thousands of denominations today: This is true.
All have fallen short: This is true.
You are of one of them: This is true.
There will be a falling away: this is true.This is not my opinion.
wakeup.
April 1, 2014 at 11:36 pm#375884NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Lack of understanding often causes folks to cast others aside
The lack may be in you. - AuthorPosts
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