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- November 20, 2012 at 4:24 pm#352505limjunusParticipant
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 21 2012,01:37) Hi linjunus, (re-post question #1) Are you suggesting “Half an Hour” = 20.83 years?
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 16 2012,00:06) The first world (*war) ended on November 11, 1918 and the outbreak of the second world war is on September 1, 1939.
1939 – 1918 = 21I get 20.872 once we minus 71 literal days difference (Sep.1 to Nov.11) …Everyone knows I'm a math guy here.
My question is: do you agree with my calculations, based on your posting of the dates between www1 to www2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*Note: I added the word “war” to limjunus' quote
Dear Ed J,I could agree with your own calculation. Because you did not specify it.
The calculation must be in accurate and must be equivalent ot the words ” about half an hour”
HERE IS THE COMPUTATION OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
(a.) 1,000 DIVIDED 24 =41 YEARS AND 8 MONTHS= equivalent of 1-hour with God.
(b.) The exact half an hour is 20 years, 10-months
(c.) The about half an hour is 20 years, 9-months and 20-days which was the interval between the 1st world war on November 11, 1918 and the 2nd world war on September 01, 1939
The messages is not saying the exact half an hour but “about half an hour” …. meaning very close to half an hour.
10-days short to the exact half hour is the accurate computation.
You have seen the different between the COC and with your own computation?
November 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm#352506limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 21 2012,01:37) Hi linjunus, (re-post question #1) Are you suggesting “Half an Hour” = 20.83 years?
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 16 2012,00:06) The first world (*war) ended on November 11, 1918 and the outbreak of the second world war is on September 1, 1939.
1939 – 1918 = 21I get 20.872 once we minus 71 literal days difference (Sep.1 to Nov.11) …Everyone knows I'm a math guy here.
My question is: do you agree with my calculations, based on your posting of the dates between www1 to www2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*Note: I added the word “war” to limjunus' quote
Dear Ed J,I could not agree with your own calculation. Because you did not specify it.
The calculation must be in accurate and must be equivalent ot the words ” about half an hour”
HERE IS THE COMPUTATION OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST.
(a.) 1,000 DIVIDED 24 =41 YEARS AND 8 MONTHS= equivalent of 1-hour with God.
(b.) The exact half an hour is 20 years, 10-months
(c.) The about half an hour is 20 years, 9-months and 20-days which was the interval between the 1st world war on November 11, 1918 and the 2nd world war on September 01, 1939
The messages is not saying the exact half an hour but “about half an hour” …. meaning very close to half an hour.
10-days short to the exact half hour is the accurate computation.
You have seen the different between the COC and with your own computation?
November 20, 2012 at 4:28 pm#352507limjunusParticipantTO ALL
That's for now. I am very sorry, I am having a short time allocated. But I'll be back to see more from you. Thank you.
Glory be to the Fathera nd God, of Christ Jesus forver and ever. Amen.
November 20, 2012 at 4:47 pm#352508Ed JParticipantHi linjunus,
Thank you for addressing my questions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 20, 2012 at 7:04 pm#352509WakeupParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47) TO ALL: Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.Revelation 8:1 KJV
1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.II Peter 3:8 KJV
8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.
Limjunus.I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.
The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
(rev.14:1).
Dear Wakeup,The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.
The church of Christ is the new “Israel” …. the new nation of God.
LImjunus.The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.
Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.wakeup.
November 21, 2012 at 3:28 am#352510jamminParticipantQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:03) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:59) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:40) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:20) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 17 2012,18:08) TO ALL That's for now and I'll be back soon.
Thanks a lot.
May all the praises be unto the Lord God and Father of Christ Jesus in heaven. Amen.
a demon is talking lies to this thread.why did manalo preach ?
you are not answering my question
Dear Jammin,who is demon?
You are out of topic.
the one who preach Christ is not GOD who became flesh.
here is what your favorite version says
Philippians 2:6-7New Living Translation (NLT)
6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,answer mine
why did manalo preach?
Dear Jammin,You are out of the topic. Please go back to your own thread John 1:1 and discuss it with Wakeup and Ed J.
I told you I am finished with you.
You know how to read. You know what is the thread or topic here in this thread?
Instead of diverting the issue with your own issue, better introduce here in this thread the proofs of your preachers/ teachers that they are the true preachers sent by God. Here is your chance to show the proofs to everyone here.
Do you have? Bring it out here.
im not out of the topc
you said the messenger of GODwhy did manalo preach?
November 22, 2012 at 9:26 am#352511limjunusParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 21 2012,01:37) Hi linjunus, (re-post question #1) Are you suggesting “Half an Hour” = 20.83 years?
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 16 2012,00:06) The first world (*war) ended on November 11, 1918 and the outbreak of the second world war is on September 1, 1939.
1939 – 1918 = 21I get 20.872 once we minus 71 literal days difference (Sep.1 to Nov.11) …Everyone knows I'm a math guy here.
My question is: do you agree with my calculations, based on your posting of the dates between www1 to www2 ?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
*Note: I added the word “war” to limjunus' quote
Dear Ed J,If your calculation of 20.83 years is the exact half hour with the Lord of 20 years and 10-months I will agree with you but if is not, I will not agree.
Focus your heart with the words “about half an hour it will be 20 years, 9-months and 20-days which was the interval between the 1st world war on November 11, 1918 and the 2nd world war on September 01, 1939
November 22, 2012 at 9:30 am#352512jamminParticipantlimjunus,
why did manalo preach?
November 22, 2012 at 9:41 am#352513limjunusParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47) TO ALL: Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.Revelation 8:1 KJV
1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.II Peter 3:8 KJV
8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.
Limjunus.I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.
The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
(rev.14:1).
Dear Wakeup,The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.
The church of Christ is the new “Israel” …. the new nation of God.
LImjunus.The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.
Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.wakeup.
Dear Wakeup,You have missed the point. The sealing of the servants of God, mentioned in Revelation 7:3 is the preaching of the gospel of Christ Jesus.
Here is the testimony of apostle Paul.
It is the same with you. You heard the true message, the Good News about the way God saves you. When you heard that Good News, you believed in Christ. And in Christ, God put his special mark on you by giving you the Holy Spirit that he promised.
You heard and believed the message of truth, the Good News that he has saved you. In him you were sealed with the Holy Spirit whom he promised. Ref: ERV and GW.
The time element concerned is not the 1st century time. The time element is concerning the eruption of the 1st world war and at the same time element is the preaching of the good news in the far east lead by a true messenger of God.
Look and check the world history with the events of world war and different christian religious flourishing around the world. The restoration of the Church of Christ and the 1st world war is in harmony with the time element of their events.
November 22, 2012 at 9:44 am#352514limjunusParticipantQuote (jammin @ Nov. 21 2012,13:28) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:03) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 20 2012,11:59) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:40) Quote (jammin @ Nov. 18 2012,22:20) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 17 2012,18:08) TO ALL That's for now and I'll be back soon.
Thanks a lot.
May all the praises be unto the Lord God and Father of Christ Jesus in heaven. Amen.
a demon is talking lies to this thread.why did manalo preach ?
you are not answering my question
Dear Jammin,who is demon?
You are out of topic.
the one who preach Christ is not GOD who became flesh.
here is what your favorite version says
Philippians 2:6-7New Living Translation (NLT)
6 Though he was God,
he did not think of equality with God
as something to cling to.
7 Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
he took the humble position of a slave
and was born as a human being.
When he appeared in human form,answer mine
why did manalo preach?
Dear Jammin,You are out of the topic. Please go back to your own thread John 1:1 and discuss it with Wakeup and Ed J.
I told you I am finished with you.
You know how to read. You know what is the thread or topic here in this thread?
Instead of diverting the issue with your own issue, better introduce here in this thread the proofs of your preachers/ teachers that they are the true preachers sent by God. Here is your chance to show the proofs to everyone here.
Do you have? Bring it out here.
im not out of the topc
you said the messenger of GODwhy did manalo preach?
Dear Jammin,You must read it back. From the beginning of this thread to the last, then you will satisfied with the answer to your question.
November 22, 2012 at 9:45 am#352515limjunusParticipantQuote (jammin @ Nov. 22 2012,19:30) limjunus, why did manalo preach?
Dear Jammin,You must read it back. From the beginning of this thread to the last, then you will satisfied with the answer to your question.
November 22, 2012 at 10:03 am#352516limjunusParticipantQuote (Wakeup @ Nov. 21 2012,05:04) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 21 2012,02:16) Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 20 2012,04:27) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 20 2012,00:47) TO ALL: Revelation 7:1-3 KJV
1And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. 2And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.Revelation 8:1 KJV
1. And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour.II Peter 3:8 KJV
8. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.The messages of the Revelation is giving us the knowledge to know the exact time and location of the events.
Limjunus.I dont know what you are trying to explain,but I know that you are mixing the 7seals and the sealing of the elect144000.
The Lamb opened the 7seals of the book.
The sealing of the elect was done by an angel,not the same seals. The elect were sealed with the name of the Father in their foreheads.
(rev.14:1).
Dear Wakeup,The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits or members of the church built by Jesus on the 1st century beside the other races from the Gentiles and the third group from a far place of the world.
The church of Christ is the new “Israel” …. the new nation of God.
LImjunus.The 144000 has to be alive in the last days,TO BE SEALED FOR PROTECTION,AGAINST THE HURTING OF THE EARTH.
Revelation 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.
Revelation 7:2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the SEAL of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to HURT the EARTH and the SEA,
Revelation 7:3 Saying, HURT NOT THE EARTH the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, TILL WE HAVE SEALED THE SERVANTS OF OUR GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS.
Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel.
For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.wakeup.
Dear Wakeup,Post by Wakeup: “THESE ARE ALL SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. not the old israel. For they are all dead,and therefore needs NO sealing for protection.
The 144,000 Jews race, were the first fruits of the good news hath preached by Jesus on the 1st century, the total numbers is 144,000 Jews. the second group in addition to the 1st century church of Christ are the Gentiles, apostle Paul is the leading evangelist to their nations.
The third group is the Gentiles from the far east to the far west and spreading it to the whole world in our times and not in the time of the Apostles and Christ Jesus (33 A.D.)
One of the proof of the fulfillment of that prophesies (Rev 7:1-3 ? Isa. 43:5-7, 10 / Isa. 46:11-13) is, the news in Yahoo Finance dated 22 November 2012.
Glory be to the merciful God and Father of our Lord and Sa vior Jesus Christ. Amen
November 22, 2012 at 10:09 am#352517limjunusParticipantTO ALL
DO NOT FORGET. TO DISTINGUISH THE TRUE PREACHER OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS, HE MUST BE SENT BY GOD, SUPPORTED BY THE PROPHESIES WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE AS HIS DIVINE TESTIMONY (divine credential) AND TO DETERMINE THE FALSE PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS, HE HAS NO DIVINE TESTIMONY OR PROPHESIES FROM THE BIBLE.
GLORY BE TO THE ONLY TRUE AND MERCIFUL GOD AND FATHER OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR CHRICT ESUS FOREVER AND EVER.
AMEN!
November 22, 2012 at 2:17 pm#352518Ed JParticipantHi linjunus,
Claim #1: Iglesia ni Cristo is the only true Church of Christ (C0C).
Claim #2: There is no salvation outside the Iglesia ni Cristo (C0C).
Unfortunately, YOU have shown 'no evidence' for either of these claims.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 22, 2012 at 4:31 pm#352519davidParticipantQuote DO NOT FORGET. TO DISTINGUISH THE TRUE PREACHER OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS, HE MUST BE SENT BY GOD, SUPPORTED BY THE PROPHESIES WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE AS HIS DIVINE TESTIMONY (divine credential) AND TO DETERMINE THE FALSE PREACHERS OF THE GOSPEL OF CHRIST IS, HE HAS NO DIVINE TESTIMONY OR PROPHESIES FROM THE BIBLE Well then. How about we try this:
Ed fits that criteria.
Or, I fit that criteria.
If neither of us fit this criteria, why? Why SPECIFICALLY do you fit the criteria? Why specifically doesn't ED?
November 22, 2012 at 4:37 pm#352520davidParticipantQuote Church of Christ 1914 meant for the time of the restoration of the true Church Of Christ Where can I find more information about this? Is there a website that explains it?
You know limjunis, there is another group that says the last days began in 1914.
November 22, 2012 at 5:09 pm#352521Ed JParticipantQuote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,02:37) Quote Church of Christ 1914 meant for the time of the restoration of the true Church Of Christ Where can I find more information about this? Is there a website that explains it?
You know limjunis, there is another group that says the last days began in 1914.
Hi David,I was waiting for you to pick up on that.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgNovember 22, 2012 at 6:28 pm#352522davidParticipantQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 23 2012,03:09) Quote (david @ Nov. 23 2012,02:37) Quote Church of Christ 1914 meant for the time of the restoration of the true Church Of Christ Where can I find more information about this? Is there a website that explains it?
You know limjunis, there is another group that says the last days began in 1914.
Hi David,I was waiting for you to pick up on that.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
I was the first one to mention it. I remember my response was:“what the”?
I would have explored it further but find this to be the most frustrating of threads. Lots being said, yet I still haven't a clue what he believes. (Although I haven't really read last ten pages)
November 22, 2012 at 7:27 pm#352523WakeupParticipantHi David.
study these scriptures carefully.
John 6:26 Jesus answered them and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Ye seek me, not because ye saw the miracles, but because YE DID EAT OF THE LOVES, and were filled.
THEY ONLY FOLLOWED JESUS TO FILL THEIR BELLY,NOT FOR HIS TEACHINGS.
John 6:27 LABOUR NOT for the MEAT WHICH PERISHETH, but FOR THAT MEAT which endureth unto everlasting life, WHICH THE SON OF MAN SHALL GIVE UNTO YOU:
*** FOR HIM HATH GOD THE FATHER*SEALED***ANYONE TRULY FEEDING ON THE WORD OF GOD;ARE THE ONES SEALED BY THE FATHER.FOR THESE ARE THE TRUE WORSHIPPERS.
MOST WORSHIP GOD FOR THEIR OWN BELLY ONLY,SUCH AS BLESSINGS, AND A BETTER LIFE.
Just tell me if I have misinterpreted those scriptures.
wakeup.
November 22, 2012 at 8:44 pm#352524davidParticipantWAKEUP, not sure, but you may think you are in another thread.
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