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Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57) Dear Ed J, We are talking about “how to determine the true preachers and the false preachers (true messengers of God, to preach His words).
Hi linjunus,And we are still waiting patiently for you to tell us exactly how this is determined.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57)
If you can not stand with my presentations, you can go away and do not deal with me anymore, but please do not act like a newly born baby.
Hi linjunus,It is not your presentations that are the problem, but instead your presumptions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,20:47) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,20:31) Ed J, (1)The sole mediator between men and his God.
(2)Peace be upon us.
Hi linjunus,1) YOU keep saying this, but you offer no proof?
only YOUR assertions based on your opinions.2) And who is this “us” – YOU are referring to?
Me, David, Terraricca, Wakeup and YOU?Or Just YOU and the group you are aggrandizing for?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Did you read the 1 Tim. 2:5 NKJV.
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,.
“sole” mean one. … sole mediator. The true preachers sent by God, to preach the words of reconciliation between God and men is not claiming that they are the mediator but just teaching in behalf of the sole mediator, Christ Jesus. … the same with our preachers, they were preaching the words of reconciliation between God and men in behalf of Christ Jesus.
You missed the point Ed J.
Peace be with us … meant for us; You, David, Terraricca, me and Wakeup.
Why? you do not want me to wish it?
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:18) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,20:47) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,20:31) Ed J, (1)The sole mediator between men and his God.
(2)Peace be upon us.
Hi linjunus,1) YOU keep saying this, but you offer no proof?
only YOUR assertions based on your opinions.2) And who is this “us” – YOU are referring to?
Me, David, Terraricca, Wakeup and YOU?Or Just YOU and the group you are aggrandizing for?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,(A)The true preachers sent by God, to preach the words of reconciliation between God and men is not claiming
that they are the mediator but just teaching in behalf of the sole mediator, Christ Jesus.(B)Peace be with us … meant for us; You, David, Terraricca, me and Wakeup.
(C)Why? you do not want me to wish it?
Hi linjunus,A) Great, keep up the good work then!
B) Why thank you then, in behalf of “us”.
C) Yes, of course I do; why wouldn't “I”?
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,21:26) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:13) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,20:01) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,19:37) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,17:15) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:32) You need to show us that your “divine credential” (Josh 22:24-25) has been fulfilled… Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47) Dear Mr. Ed J, You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.
Got the point.
Peace.
“The LORD GOD of gods, the LORD GOD of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion,
or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) That we have built us an altar (called Ed)
to turn from following the LORD, or if to offer thereon burnt offering or meat offering, or if to offer peace
offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it; And if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing,saying, In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying,
What have ye to do with the LORD GOD of Israel?” (Josh 22:22-24)Is this not is fact what you are saying?
Dear ED J,What I am saying is “WE ARE NOT WITH THE SAME SPIRIT (doctrines/beliefs).
For many shall come in my name, saying, “i am”; and shall deceive many. (Mark 13:6)
Dear Ed J,Now, you are becoming a “twister”
Peace.
Did you – or did you not say: 'WE ARE NOT WITH THE SAME SPIRIT' ?
Dear Ed J,You did not read my point of clarification about it?
“we are not with the same spirit” mean: you and I are not in the same belief (doctrines).
To make more clear for you. I will tell it to you easily.
Your beliefs are not the same with my beliefs. or your religious group is not my religious group.
If the above phrases is still not clear with you? Sorry to say this: “you better buy another person to talk with you.”
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:31) Dear Ed J, Your beliefs are not the same with my beliefs.
Hi limjunus,That's what I'm working on rectifying.
Your brother
in Christ, Jesus.
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:31) Dear ED J, “you better buy another person to talk with you.”
Hi Wakeup,Are you going to start charging “us” for your time now?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:01) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57) Dear Ed J, We are talking about “how to determine the true preachers and the false preachers (true messengers of God, to preach His words).
Hi linjunus,And we are still waiting patiently for you to tell us exactly how this is determined.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,If you reading my posts and you have seen it but you can not understand it, the Scared Scriptures messages has been fulfilled with you. I hope you can have the thoughts with this verse and not by seeing it alone without understanding it.
10When Jesus was alone, some of those who had heard him came to him with the twelve disciples and asked him to explain the parables. 11″You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outside, hear all things by means of parables, 12so that, 'They may look and look, yet not see; they may listen and listen, yet not understand. For if they did, they would turn to God, and he would forgive them.' “
.12so that, 'They may look and look, yet not see; they may listen and listen, yet not understand.
.Read back, may the Lord God, open the eyes of your heart.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,21:28) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:13) I just making a point of clarification what I really want to say that you could not even easily to understand Ed?
Try me
Dear Ed J,You have been tried many times but you still in a shotcoming.
Hi limjunus,
I fully understand the meaning of Mark 4:11-12, but what is the point are you trying to make by posting it?
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them(his Apostles), Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and
hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:52) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,21:28) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:13) I just making a point of clarification what I really want to say that you could not even easily to understand Ed?
Try me
Dear Ed J,You have been tried many times but you still in a shotcoming.
Hi limjunus,Are you referring to your fake stories at the beginning of this thread?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgTO ALL:
here is the continuation of my post No. 779.
Now, look and check the missionary works of the Church Of Christ from the far east (Philippines) since July 27, 1914? From a very humble beginning. God, hath fulfilled His promised written in the Book of Prophet Isaiah 43:5-7 NKJV.
5. Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, And gather you from the west; 6. I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!' Bring My sons from afar, And My daughters from the ends of the earth 7. Everyone who is called by My name, Whom I have created for My glory; I have formed him, yes, I have made him.
10Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.' Isaiah 41:10
Since July 27, 1914 with the expand of 98 years. From the very humble reviving of the true church of Christ. Besides of so many persecutions from the huge and so called christian religious organization Catholic and Protestant denominations (the North and the South: Isaiah 43:6) The “poor man” chosen by God, to be His true preachers in our times; lack of worldly materials, lack of proper educations, lack of friends with power and influences. What he just holding is the “divine credential made and assigned for him by the Lord God. He was bravely faces all the obstacles in performing his divine tasks given to him by the Lord God, in these last day. He was helped by God of Jesus Christ and been rewarded by triumphs after triumphs for the glory of the name of God's son.
With the full support, guidance and help from the Creator of everything, The missionary works of the Church Of Christ is getting works well in all aspect her endeavors. From zero milestone to a very grandstanding accomplishments; From one man to the millions of people, the gospel of Christ has been planted to their foreheads; Before they were serving and worshiping the false gods; before they had been jailed in the deepest darkness; performing the demons doctrines; living with the worldly style; their former Pastors/Priesthoods suppose to be the “the good shepherds of their spiritual nourishment, did not really care about their souls; they let the people live not according to the will of God;Killers, Lavish life style, corrupted, doing adulterous, cheater, dis-honest, wilds, envy, killing each other and the love to one another no more, and etc., etc., .
Before the believers (Church of Christ members) are gathering in a very miss-chief houses of services; facing the worst persecutions done by other christian groups, stoning the house of worship; killing the gospel workers; raping the women and cast them away from their so called “society”. calling the true believers of many different bad names; accusing them the craziest people they have ever met and many many more false accusations against the chosen people of God, in these last day.
But, look and check what is the status of the Church of Christ nowadays in this earth? Performing magnificently her divine given task by the Father, not only to the very corners of the Philippines (far East) but to all the corners of the world in behalf of His Son, Christ Jesus and to the glory of his name; and for the fulfillment of the prophesied “missionary works for as the testimony to all the antions” at the ends of the earth, then the end shall come.
14And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
. Matthew 24:14 NKJV.Glory be to the Father and God of our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:04) Hi limjunus, I fully understand the meaning of Mark 4:11-12, but what is the point are you trying to make by posting it?
Mark 4:11-12 And he said unto them(his Apostles), Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God:
but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and
hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed J,Now, you have been caught red handed. Why did you added the words “his apostle”?
You even did not prove here that your preachers has the divine credential from God” … and now you had a gut to give your conclusion that the “mystery of the kingdom of God, is just given to the apostles of Christ? you are trying to twisted the true meaning of the words of Christ.
Read it again “twister”.
11″You have been given the secret of the Kingdom of God,” Jesus answered. “But the others, who are on the outsidehear all things by means of parables, 12so that, 'They may look and look, yet not see; they may listen and listen, yet not understand. For if they did, they would turn to God, and he would forgive them.' “
So you really do not know the true meaning of the messages, instead you have tried to twisted it. The apostles, together with all the believers were inside the church of Christ; the outsiders meant for not inside the church.
Jesus, said: “whoever come into the fold (church) through me shall be saved. John 10:9
Those people outside the church shall be judged by God. Read this Ed J, 1- Cor. 5:13 NLV.
God will judge those outside the church. So you must put that sinful person out of your church..
So, the people inside the church and not only the apostles can have the knowledge of the mystery of the kingdom of God.
Because you are not belong to the people inside the church of Christ, you will be one among the people outside the church and shall be judged by God, unless you have change your mind and be part of the body of Christ., the church. … then you have the part in getting the true knowledge about the mystery of the kingdom of God.
Glory be to the Father and God of Christ Jesus forever and ever.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,23:06) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,22:52) Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,21:28) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:13) I just making a point of clarification what I really want to say that you could not even easily to understand Ed?
Try me
Dear Ed J,You have been tried many times but you still in a shotcoming.
Hi limjunus,Are you referring to your fake stories at the beginning of this thread?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,Do not just lay down the plain accusation,.. you must prove that my presentation is a fake story.
Without proving your accusation, meaning you are just making a big sound but empty with the truths.
FYI: In my whole life in sharing the truth of God, I have encountered so many people with the same attitude like yours ED J.
So, your kind is not new to me, but I will be patient until the right time to leave you.
Glory be to the Father and God of Christ Jesus, forever and ever.
Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,22:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,21:57)
If you can not stand with my presentations, you can go away and do not deal with me anymore, but please do not act like a newly born baby.
Hi linjunus,It is not your presentations that are the problem, but instead your presumptions.
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Dear Ed J,My presentation is accompany by my presumptions and you can not set aside and branded it as the problem.
Show me which presumptions of mine that you have concluded as the problems, do you?
You are having the great habit of telling something without emphasizing it specifically.
Be specific with your comments and do not let the readers to do the guessing?
Praise be to God and Father of Christ Jesus.
TO ALL:
My time is running out for today and I should go for a while. I am thanking you very much for being patient with my Bible sharing. All the glories be with the Creator of heaven and earth and all the things therein. …
Praises be to the Lord God, almighty and to His Son Christ Jesus.
.Limjunus.
Isaiah 32:6 For the vile person will speak villany, and his heart will work iniquity, to practise HYPOCRISY, and to utter ERROR against the LORD, to make EMPTY THE SOUL OF THE HUNGRY, and he will cause the drink of the thirsty to FAIL.
Isaiah 32:7 The instruments also of the churl are EVIL: he deviseth WICKRD DEVICES to destroy the poor with LYING WORDS, even when the needy speaketh right.
Isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.
Isaiah 32:9 Rise up, ye women that are at ease; hear my voice, ye careless daughters; give ear unto my speech.
Isaiah 32:10 MANY DAYS AND YEARS shall ye be troubled, ye CARELESS women: for the vintage shall fail, the GATHERING shall not come.
wakeup.
limj
Quote I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV. 9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.
14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
..Before we can go to the Father, we must go first to Jesus and before we can go to Jesus, we must bring us by the Father to Jesus. As what it was written.
2Th 2:13 But we ought always to thank God for you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you to be saved through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth.
2Th 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
2Th 2:15 So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.see the last words of Paul;””;whether by word of mouth or by letter.”” and Paul does not talking about his personal gospel but the one he recieved from Christ ;Gal 1:6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel—
Gal 1:7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervert the gospel of Christ.2CO 11:14 No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
GAL 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we(apostles) have preached to you, he is to be accursed!1JN 2:22 Who is the liar but the one who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the one who denies the Father and the Son.
it seems you are still a liar and a fake and so his your church ;so I stand behind my words,
limj
Quote 10Fear not, for I am with you; Be not dismayed, for I am your God. I will strengthen you, Yes, I will help you, I will uphold you with My righteous right hand.' Isaiah 41:10 you do not even know who his the right hand
Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,19:25) Quote (david @ Nov. 11 2012,04:09) Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 10 2012,17:59) Quote (david @ Nov. 10 2012,13:14) Limjunis, can you speak plainly? Can you plainly tell us what YOUR credentials are? I am not asking for a long confounded paragraph, but a simple explanation that a 5 year old could understand:
How do we know that YOU are from God? What are YOUR credentials? (No need to explain a process or start from the beginning. Start at the end and please, just tell us what you consider YOUR credentials to be.)
Thank you in advance.
Dear David,My “divine credential” is, I heard the words of God, from the genuine messenger/ preachers sent by God. I had been with them since I have believing for what the messages of God, has been commissioned to be speak by and through them..
I am sharing with you guys, the true gospel of Christ, that I had been heard from them (messengers of God).
Since and then I have my holy and noble obligation to my neighbors to share it with them … for my compliance to one of the commandments of the Lord. “LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS THE LOVE TO YOURSELF”.
Limjunis, here is the Problem:What if I or someone else said the exact same thing?
“I heard the word of god from the true messengers…”
Anyone can say that. But my question is: how do you know THEY are the true messengers?
It seems the reason you say you are a true messenger of god is because you heard a message from THEM, who you say are true messengers.
So, HOW DO WE KNOW THEY ARE THE TRUE MESSENGERS OF GOD?
If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.
How are the ones that told you the message different? Why are they true, while others are false?
Dear David,I've thought you had read my post about it.
Will you please go and read it back from the start with this thread so that I will not posting again and again the same post.
The “divine credential” of the true preachers sent by God, is not the one you have post. Quote:
“If you say: “because they heard the message from true messengers” this won't answer the question. A lot of groups could say the same thing. Catholics could just as easily be saying what you are saying.”
It is better for you read the whole thread then you will find the answer to your question.
Limjunis,We are simply looking for any facts that back up what you say. If I understand this, You say that you are a true messenger because you heard the message from the true messengers.
Well, couldn't anyone say that? where is the proof?
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