THE MESSENGERS OF GOD

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  • #352305
    Ed J
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    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,20:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,04:50)
    Hi Pierre, and this verse seems to just get swept under the rug…

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Tim 2:5)

                   He asked what do you mean?      ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

    Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant?      …you think?   :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    The verse is very clear enough fro me to understand.  

    The problem is, “your wrong understanding and comprehension about the subjected verse”. (1 Tim 2:5)

    The verse is not helping us to find out who is the true preachers of God, and who is not?

    The word “mediator” is very different with the words of “true and false preacher.

    You have a habit of “negative presumptions and you should not be like that. Be polite and not an stupid one.


    Hi Limjunus,

    What do YOU mean by your use of the term  'negative presumptions'  ?
    Have I not always been polite to you or are you bearing false witness against me?

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)

    #352306
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Wakeup @ Nov. 12 2012,00:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,20:49)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:47)
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


    How about 1Peter 2:9-10?

    “ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
     that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his
     marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:” (1 Peter 2:9-10)


    Dear Ed J, Terraricca and David,

    It seem to me that you three are in common now? … so I will address my post to all of you.

    The 1 Tim. 2:5 has answered already. ..

    and now I gonna answer the 1 Peter 2:9-10

    Surely, you will be surprising with my respond. It will go back to the bottom line.

    For being the chosen people (true believers with the true gospel of Christ), a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;

    THAT YE SHOULD SHEW FORTH THE PRAISES OF HIM “CALLED YOU OUT OF DARKNESS INTO HIS MARVELOUS LIGHT: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God.

    In the past, the people are in the darkness; God wanted them to be His chosen people; a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; after CALLING them, they must shew the praises to Him.  

    To make it short and to make it very easy to understand, “the people need to be called first before they could become the chosen people of God.

    How the people from the darkness can be called by God and transfer them from darkness to light?

    Here is the answer of the Scared Scriptures: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV.

    9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

    14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    .

    Therefore, you need to hear the gospel through the true preachers sent by God.  (Romans 10:14-15, 17 NKJV)

    So, is your preachers or Pastor were the true “messengers” of God, to teach His words, is your preachers having the “divine credential from God, as their “divine identification?

    If your answer is “none”.   then you still in the darkness.[/quote]
    Limjunus.

    You mean these preachers,THAT WILL BE DUNG UPON THE GROUND?  ONLY GOOD FOR FERTILIZER.

    25:33   And the slain of the LORD shall be at THAT DAY from one end of the EARTH even unto the other end of the EARTH: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be DUNG upon the ground.

     Jeremiah 25:34   Howl, ye SHEPHERDS, and cry; and wallow yourselves in the ashes, ye PRINCIPAL of the flock: for the days of your SLAUGHTER and of your dispersions are accomplished; and ye shall fall like a pleasant vessel.

     Jeremiah 25:35   And the SHEPHERDS shall have no way to flee, nor the PRINCIPAL of the flock to escape.

     Jeremiah 25:36   A voice of the cry of the SHEPHERDS, and an howling of the PRINCIPAL of the flock, shall be heard: for the LORD hath spoiled their pasture.

     Jeremiah 25:37   And the peaceable habitations are cut down because of the FIERCE ANGER of the LORD.

     Jeremiah 25:38   He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is DESOLATE because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his *FIERCE ANGER*.

    You mean these shepherds that has caused desolation?
    You mean these shepherds that will be slaughtered?
    You can not go against prophecy; What has been prophesied most be fulfilled.

    wakeup.


    Dear Wakeup,

    The true prophesies written in the Bible should be past to come.

    I did not said the one you have post. You are and not me.

    Here is your post with your own conclusion by means of question:

    “You mean these shepherds that has caused desolation?
    You mean these shepherds that will be slaughtered?
    You can not go against prophecy; What has been prophesied most be fulfilled.”

    The verses you had posted are not helping you to determine who is the true messengers of God and who are not.

    We are discussing the authenticity of the divine credentials specified by the Bible to know who is the true preachers and who are the false preachers?.

    Do not go away with the subject matter.

    #352307
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 12 2012,04:23)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,17:08)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:53)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:47)

    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,07:45)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,23:50)
    Hi Pierre, and this verse seems to just get swept under the rug…

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Tim 2:5)

                   He asked what do you mean?      ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

    Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant?      …you think?   :D

    God bless
    Ed J


    eddy

    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


    How about 1Peter 2:9-10?

    “ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people;
     that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his
     marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:” (1 Peter 2:9-10)


    How about this one?

    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
     no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Terraricca, Ed J, and David,

    I gonna answer the verse of John 14:6

    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
     no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    .

    The question is how you can come to Jesus? He is now in heaven with God. … do we need to go to heaven and meet Jesus first before we can come to the Father?

    I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV.

    9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

    14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    .
    .

    Before we can go to the Father, we must go first to Jesus and before we can go to Jesus, we must bring us by the Father to Jesus. As what it was written.

    44No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
    .  (John 6:44)

    So, what is the meaning of verse 44? Jesus is in heaven. God, will bring us to heaven so that we can be draw with Jesus and have fellowship with him?

    Which place is appropriate that we could be delivered, then we can have the fellowship with His son?

    Let the Sacred Scriptures answer it. Acts 2:47 NKJV.

    praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.
    .

    Why God, need to add or bring the people into the church, why not in heaven where Jesus is in?

    Let the Bible answer it and not me. Ephessians 5:23 TEV.

    23For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body..

    Now, we have learned why the Father of Jesus, bringing the people to the church and not to heaven where Jesus is?  … the church is here on earth and she is the body of Christ and he is not only the head of the church, hJesus is the savior of the church. (Col. 1:18 / Eph. 5:23 NKJV).

    I am reminding you. The answers were comes from Bible and not from me.

    Peace.


    limj

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    I am reminding you. The answers were comes from Bible and not from me.

    we know the scriptures and we agree with them ;but it is your interpretation of those scriptures and the way you use them that we challenge,

    that is why you are a false messenger ,you are blind to your own words

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    The question is how you can come to Jesus? He is now in heaven with God. … do we need to go to heaven and meet Jesus first before we can come to the Father?

    your own answer;

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    I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV.

    9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

    14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    but both of those verses are referring to Christ being making the calls,and many have preached not out of love but out dispute ,and even so Paul says that Christ his preached


    Dear Terraricca, Wakeup, Ed J and David,

    Here is Terraricca post:

    “we know the scriptures and we agree with them ;but it is your interpretation of those scriptures and the way you use them that we challenge,”

    Can you prove that I am using the Scriptures the wrong way and my wrong interpretations of the Scriptural messages that forcing you to challenges it?

    I told you I am not the one to answer the questions. Read it again and you will find the meaning with the messages of the Bible by itself and not my interpretations.
    .

    Here is the last part of your post:

    but both of those verses are referring to Christ being making the calls,and many have preached not out of love but out dispute ,and even so Paul says that Christ his preached.

    Now, you are running away with the post that you have agreed with ED J, Here is your issue to rebut my stand:

    that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his
     marvellous light: Which i
    n time past were not a people, but are now the people of God:” (1 Peter 2:9-10)

    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
     no man cometh unto the Father, but by me..

    And here is my understanding to the verses you have post:

    The question is how you can come to Jesus? He is now in heaven with God. … do we need to go to heaven and meet Jesus first before we can come to the Father?

    I am not the one will answer it. Let the Holy Scriptures say something: ” 1 Cor. 1:9 and 2-Thess 2:14 NKJV.

    9God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord.

    14to which He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    .
    .

    Before we can go to the Father, we must go first to Jesus and before we can go to Jesus, we must bring us by the Father to Jesus. As what it was written.

    44No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.
    .  (John 6:44)

    So, what is the meaning of verse 44? Jesus is in heaven. God, will bring us to heaven so that we can be draw with Jesus and have fellowship with him?

    Which place is appropriate that we could be delivered, then we can have the fellowship with His son?

    Let the Sacred Scriptures answer it. Acts 2:47 NKJV.

    praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved.
    .

    Why God, need to add or bring the people into the church, why not in heaven where Jesus is in?

    Let the Bible answer it and not me. Ephessians 5:23 TEV.

    23For a husband has authority over his wife just as Christ has authority over the church; and Christ is himself the Savior of the church, his body..

    Now, we have learned why the Father of Jesus, bringing the people to the church and not to heaven where Jesus is?  … the church is here on earth and she is the body of Christ and he is not only the head of the church, Jesus is the savior of the church. (Col. 1:18 / Eph. 5:23 NKJV).

    Can you pin-point from the above mentioned phrases which is the wrong way and which is the wrong interpretation of mine?

    Summary:

    We could not come directly to the Father, except we should come first to Jesus; and Jesus told us also that nobody could come to him except the Father draw us to him, then he said also that “I will raise him/ [them] up at the last day.”(John 6:44)”

    My very question is and not my interpretation, but a question.

    How we could go to Jesus, he is in heaven busy preparing the place for his true believers?

    … and how the Father could draw us to Jesus, do the Father need us to bring up in heaven where the place Jesus is?

    Categorically, there is a proper spiritual place here on earth where the so called people from the darkness could be gather together as one nation and be recognized as the chosen people of God.

    “…. who hath called you out of darkness into his
     marvellous light…..
    .

    Where is the place here on earth that the people could be bring forth and dwelling with the marvelous light?

    Here is the answer of the Scriptures: Col 1:13 NKJV.

    13He has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,
    .

    Christ Jesus, for being the Son of God, has a kingdom here on earth where the people has been brought or be added for the salvation of their souls and having the forgiveness of their sins.

    Here is the answer of the Bible:

    praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily those who were being saved..

    Which church is it? There were plenty of churches scattered in the world.

    Here is the answer of the Bible:

    . “Take heed therefore unto yourselves and to all the flock, over which the Holy Spirit hath made you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which He hath purchased with His own blood.” G. Lamsa

    The kingdom of the son of God, is the church …. that's why God, added to the church of Christ, daily such should be saved…”

    That's the truth Terraricca, Ed J, Wakeup and David. READ IT and do not tell that it is my teaching. … it is the preaching of the Sacred Scriptures.

    Next time, when you are going to accuses me with any wrong doing about the Scriptures,… you must be proved it or else you are hitting your fists to the air.

    Peace>

    #352308
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,12:35)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,17:30)

    Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47)
    Dear Mr. Ed J,

    You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.      Got the point.

    Peace.


    Hi limjunus,

    “we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying,
     In time to come your children might speak unto our children,
     saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the
     LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25)

    God bless
    Ed J


    Hi Limjunus,

    Here are my divine credentials,
    remember you asking me for them?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear ED J,

    Do you mean the “Josh 22:24-25 is the “divine credential” of your preachers cum founder?

    Quote: “we have not rather done it for fear of this thing, saying, In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying, What have ye to do with the LORD God of Israel? For the LORD hath made Jordan a border between us and you,” (Josh 22:24-25).

    Where is the essence of this presented divine credential of your preachers cum founder? …. where is the specified works, the commissioning task to be done?

    1.) John the Baptist, has been commissioned to prepare the road for the Lord, by preaching the repentance and the acts of baptism.

    2.) Christ Jesus, Preaching the good news and showing that the Spirit of the Lord God, is with him.

    3.) Apostles Paul and Barnabas is claiming the works for them is to preach the gospel to the Gentiles

    How about your preachers cum founder of your group, what can you tell about themselves?

    What Jordan-border God made between us (us and you refer to whom?) are you talking about?

    Every preachers cum founder can do what you have been presented. They just selected any Bible prophesies and then have used it, presented it as their “divine credential. Presto.

    You need to show us that your “divine credential” (Josh 22:24-25) has been fulfilled with your so called preachers cum founder of your group.

    Jesus Christ, shown us the preceding for being the true messengers of God, the task commissioned to them should be made by themselves. John 5:36 ERV.

    “But I have a proof about myself that is greater than anything John said. The things I do are my proof. These are what my Father gave me to do. They show that the Father sent me..

    #352309
    Ed J
    Participant

    Hi Limjunus,

    First you call David me,
    now you're quoting Terraricca with my name.
    Are you trying to bear false witness against me or what?

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,14:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:47)
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,07:45)
    eddy
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


                       what seems to be the problem?

    You also say that I haven't been polite and make 'negative presumptions'.
    Could you instead be seeing your own reflection when you *look at me?

    James 1:23-24 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer,
    he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]: For he
    beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

    Psalm 18:25-28 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) will save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
    * Reason for Edit: I mistakenly wrote “took” instead of “look”.

    #352310
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,12:46)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,22:08)
    Dear Terraricca, Ed J, and David,

    I gonna answer the verse of John 14:6

    “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life:
     no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
    .

    The question is how you can come to Jesus? He is now in heaven with God. … do we need to go to heaven and meet Jesus first before we can come to the Father?

    Peace.


    Hi Limjunus,  (Link)

    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost(117).  

     “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea,
       though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now
       henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear ED j,

    The verse you have post is not helping you to determine which is the true preachers sent by God, and which is not the true preachers.?

    Be specific with the issue “The Messengers of God”. How we could know the true preachers?

    #352311
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,15:48)
    Dear Terraricca, Wakeup, Ed J and David,

    Now, you are running away with the post that you have agreed with ED J,    Here is your issue to rebut my stand:

    Peace>


    Hi Wakeup,

    Now he's got you connected to Pierre and David and me.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352312
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:32)
    Dear ED J,

    Do you mean the “Josh 22:24-25 is the “divine credential” of your preachers cum founder?


    No

    #352313
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,14:36)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,20:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,04:50)
    Hi Pierre, and this verse seems to just get swept under the rug…

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Tim 2:5)

                   He asked what do you mean?      ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

    Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant?      …you think?   :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    The verse is very clear enough fro me to understand.  

    The problem is, “your wrong understanding and comprehension about the subjected verse”. (1 Tim 2:5)

    The verse is not helping us to find out who is the true preachers of God, and who is not?

    The word “mediator” is very different with the words of “true and false preacher.

    You have a habit of “negative presumptions and you should not be like that. Be polite and not an stupid one.


    Hi Limjunus,

    What do YOU mean by your use of the term  'negative presumptions'  ?
    Have I not always been polite to you or are you bearing false witness against me?

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Dear Ed J,

    Here the one have post.

    He asked what do you mean? ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

    Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant? …you think? .

    You should not post it because you have no proofs for what you have says so.

    If I have offended you. I am no hesitation to give my “personal apology” for what I had said or post addressed to you.

    Peace.

    #352314
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,16:33)
    Hi Limjunus,

    First you call David me,
    now you're quoting Terraricca with my name.
    Are you trying to bear false witness against me or what?

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,14:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:47)
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,07:45)
    eddy
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


                       what seems to be the problem?

    You also say that I haven't been polite and make 'negative presumptions'.
    Could you instead be seeing your own reflection when you took at me?

    James 1:23-24 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer,
    he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]: For he
    beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

    Psalm 18:25-28 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) will save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    It seem to me that you, Terraricca and David are in common, so If addressed my post to any one of you, it will goes also to another two or three, including Wakeup.

    Therefore do not capitalized the miss-addressing to dragging away the topic with the main issue and I am advising you to focus your mind what we really discussing of.

    Is your preachers cum founders having the “divine credential” from God?

    You have post the verses “Josh 22:24-25

    But you have failed to prove it. How come the Josh 22:34-35 could be the divine credential of your preachers cum founder of your group?

    Without proving it is too dangerous. Because every preachers cum founder can do the same.

    Show me the convincing power of the Josh 22:34-35 that is their “divine credential made and issue to them by God, before they could be born in this world.

    You know what I mean “too dangerous preceding?

    Peace.

    #352315
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:32)
    You need to show us that your “divine credential” (Josh 22:24-25) has been fulfilled…


    Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47)
    Dear Mr. Ed J,

    You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.

    Got the point.

    Peace.

    “The LORD GOD of gods, the LORD GOD of gods, he knoweth, and Israel he shall know; if it be in rebellion,
    or if in transgression against the LORD, (save us not this day,) That we have built us an altar (called Ed)
    to turn from following the LORD, or if to offer thereon burnt offering or meat offering, or if to offer peace
    offerings thereon, let the LORD himself require it;  And if we have not rather done it for fear of this thing,

    saying, In time to come your children might speak unto our children, saying,
    What have ye to do with the LORD GOD of Israel?” (Josh 22:22-24)

    Is this not is fact what you are saying?

    #352316
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 10 2012,19:39)

    Quote (limjunus @ Oct. 26 2012,13:47)

    Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 25 2012,23:44)

    limjunus,Oct. wrote:

    Dear Ed J,

    I called you brother in Christ, even though we are not with us.  Just for the courtesy of our discussion in Christ words, I am presuming even for a moment that you are my brother in Christ. .. and to avoid the mis-understanding, from now on I will address you as Mr. Ed J.

    God bless you.


    Hi limjunus,

    Have you changed your mind about me being your brother now?
    Necessity dictates that I remind you of Jesus' words to John…
    “he that is not against us is on our part.” (Mark 9:40)

    You are being like John was to the one casting out devils in Mark 9:38


    Dear Mr. Ed J,

    You have missed the point again.  I stop calling you my brother in Christ not because of John reporting to Jesus, but instead because you have asked me “who are my brothers in Christ, David, Ed J,?

    Therefore, to avoid confusion, I decided not to call you my brother in Christ anymore.

    You are not with me or in our's group, so you are not our brother.

    Got the point.

    Peace.


    Hi limjunus,

    Here is further “Proof” and why I made the comparison of you to Mark 9:38.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352317
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:37)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,12:46)

    Hi Limjunus,  (Link)

    Jesus returned (in spirit form) on “Pentecost(117).  

     “Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea,
       though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now
       henceforth know we him no more.” (2 Cor 5:16)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear ED j,

    The verse you have post is not helping you to determine which is the true preachers sent by God, and which is not the true preachers.?

    Be specific with the issue “The Messengers of God”. How we could know the true preachers?


    Hi Likjunus,

    I was responding to what you said here:

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,22:08)

    The question is how you can come to Jesus? He is now in heaven with God. … do we need to go to heaven and meet Jesus first before we can come to the Father?

    Peace.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352318
    Wakeup
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,17:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,16:33)
    Hi Limjunus,

    First you call David me,
    now you're quoting Terraricca with my name.
    Are you trying to bear false witness against me or what?

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,14:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,08:47)
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


    Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 11 2012,07:45)
    eddy
    yes ,thanks ,and there still more but I want it to be short  :D


                       what seems to be the problem?

    You also say that I haven't been polite and make 'negative presumptions'.
    Could you instead be seeing your own reflection when you took at me?

    James 1:23-24 For if any be a hearer of the word, and not a doer,
    he is like unto a man beholding his natural face in a [mirror]: For he
    beholdeth himself, and goeth his way, and straightway forgetteth what manner of man he was.

    Psalm 18:25-28 With the merciful thou(YHVH) will show thyself merciful;
    with an upright man thou(YHVH) will show thyself upright; With the pure
    thou(YHVH) will show thyself pure; and with the froward thou(YHVH) will
    show thyself froward. For thou(YHVH) will save the afflicted people; but wilt bring down high looks.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    It seem to me that you, Terraricca and David are in common, so If addressed my post to any one of you, it will goes also to another two or three, including Wakeup.

    Therefore do not capitalized the miss-addressing to dragging away the topic with the main issue and I am advising you to focus your mind what we really discussing of.

    Is your preachers cum founders having the “divine credential” from God?

    You have post the verses “Josh 22:24-25

    But you have failed to prove it. How come the Josh 22:34-35 could be the divine credential of your preachers cum founder of your group?

    Without proving it is too dangerous. Because every preachers cum founder can do the same.

    Show me the convincing power of the Josh 22:34-35 that is their “divine credential made and issue to them by God, before they could be born in this world.

    You know what I mean “too dangerous preceding?

    Peace.


    Limjunus.

    Jeremiah 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and SCATTER the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

    Jeremiah 23:2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the PASTORS that feed my people; Ye have SCATTERED my flock, and DRIVRN THEM AWAY, and have not visited them: behold, I will VISIT UP ON YOU the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

    Jeremiah 23:3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them AGAIN to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

    Jeremiah 23:4 And I will set up SHEPHERDS over them which shall FEED them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be LACKING, saith the LORD.

    Jeremiah 23:5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King SHALL REIGN and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.

    The so called anointed pators you are talking about,has caused nothing but desolation.
    They will be dung upon the earth:Gods own words.

    wakeup.

    #352319
    limjunus
    Participant

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,16:45)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:32)
    Dear ED J,

    Do you mean the “Josh 22:24-25 is the “divine credential” of your preachers cum founder?


    No


    Dear Ed J,

    So, then. What is the divine credential of your preachers cum founder of your group?

    As we have aware and had agreed. Plenty of false preachers roaming around the words cheating many people by claiming that they were the preachers of the words of God?

    The most very important with us to do is to determine which are the false preachers and which are the true one?

    By asking them to present their divine credential issued to them by God, through the written prophesies thousand years ago. Categorically and specifically for them as their divine identification as the true preachers sent by God.

    Is your preachers cum founders have it? ….. Bring it out here and let everybody knows.

    #352320
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:51)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,14:36)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 11 2012,20:07)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 11 2012,04:50)
    Hi Pierre, and this verse seems to just get swept under the rug…

    “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Tim 2:5)

                   He asked what do you mean?      ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

    Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant?      …you think?   :D

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org


    Dear Ed J,

    The verse is very clear enough fro me to understand.  

    The problem is, “your wrong understanding and comprehension about the subjected verse”. (1 Tim 2:5)

    The verse is not helping us to find out who is the true preachers of God, and who is not?

    The word “mediator” is very different with the words of “true and false preacher.

    You have a habit of “negative presumptions and you should not be like that. Be polite and not an stupid one.


    Hi Limjunus,

    What do YOU mean by your use of the term  'negative presumptions'  ?
    Have I not always been polite to you or are you bearing false witness against me?

    עד (Joshua 22:34) Ed (Witness)


    Dear Ed J,

    Here the one have post.

           “He asked what do you mean?      ..as if the Scripture is not clear enough.

            Maybe he needs to go and ask the organization he is aggrandizing for to find out what Shaool meant?      …you think?.”

    You should not post it because you have  no proofs for what you have says so.

    If I have offended you. I am no hesitation to give my “personal apology” for what I had said or post addressed to you.

    Peace.


    Hi linjusus,

    If you are apologizing for –   falsely accusing me of being impolite to you   – then I accept your apology.
    But NO, you have not offended me, because I have killed the 'ego' a long time ago.

         Proof of what?   …what are you talking about?
    You mean YOUR aggrandizing for your organization?    
    that is what this thread is about, is it not?

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352321
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,17:07)
    Dear Ed J,

    You know what I mean “too dangerous preceding?

    Peace.


    Hi linjunus,

    No I don't, spell it out clearly brother.

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352322
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,17:23)

    Quote (Ed J @ Nov. 12 2012,16:45)

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,16:32)
    Dear ED J,

    Do you mean the “Josh 22:24-25 is the “divine credential” of your preachers cum founder?


    No


    Dear Ed J,

    So, then. What is the divine credential of your preachers cum founder of your group?


    Huh?

    #352323
    Ed J
    Participant

    Quote (limjunus @ Nov. 12 2012,17:23)
    Dear Ed J,

    The most very important with us to do is to determine which are the false preachers and which are the true one?


    Hi Limjunus,

    Who is the “us” – YOU are referring to?   …do you have a mouse in your pocket?
    “I” have the gift of discerning of spirits, so it is very easy for “me.” (1Cor.12:10)

    God bless
    Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
    http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

    #352324
    limjunus
    Participant

    TO ALL:

    The reason of my sharing concerning the words of God, is almost the same with the Samaritan Girl when she heard the gospel of Christ.

    Here is the Bible record:

    25 The woman said, “I know that the Messiah is coming.” (He is the one called Christ.) “When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”

    26 Then Jesus said, “He is talking to you now—I am the Messiah.”

    27 Just then Jesus’ followers came back from town. They were surprised because they saw Jesus talking with a woman. But none of them asked, “What do you want?” or “Why are you talking with her?”

    28 Then the woman left her water jar and went back to town. She told the people there,. John 4:25-29 ERV.

    What the Samaritan Lady do after hearing the words of Christ?

    Here is the answer of the holy documents.

    39 Many of the Samaritan people in that town believed in Jesus. They believed because of what the woman had told them about him. She had told them, “He told me everything I have ever done.”.

    The same acts of the Samaritan lady is my activity before you Terraricca, Ed J, Wakeup and David.

    But I often have mentioned on you that should not believe on me if I am spoken the matters only comes from my own made ideas. You should believe into what I had heard from the true messengers of God, with the divine credentials the same with John the Baptist, Christ Jesus and the Apostles.

    Like what has been recorded in the Bible. John 4:42 ERV.

    The people said to the woman, “First we believed in Jesus because of what you told us. But now we believe because we heard him ourselves. We know now that he really is the one who will save the world.”.

    It means: Believing for what I have shared with you not because of my own words but because the words of God, I had heard from His messenger. …. but it is better for you to heard the words of God, to those who really having the direct divine credential from God, then your beliefs shall be justified by your hearts.

    Seek and find the true preachers sent by God, and heard the gospel of Christ Jesus. … then you would find the right to serve and worship God, and you hath the place to rest your souls.

    ' 7 All of you together are the body of Christ. Each one of you is a part of that body

    Part of the meant for “and members in particular.” 1 Cor. 12:27 NKJV.

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