The lord is the spirit

[Lightenup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,01:29)

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:19) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,00:56) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,16:46) Hi Nick, The Spirit, or Comforter, which Jesus sent from the Father to believers, is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us. Hi LU, Yes; And John 14:23 is in reference to “Pentecost”! (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi EdJ, But most of the disciples received the Holy Spirit the evening of the resurrection day. John 20:22 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” NASU Hi LU, AND; what is your point? Ed J

Edj,

John 14:23 happened to most of the disciples on the evening of the Resurrection Day and to others on Pentecost.

John 14:23
23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.
NASU

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,16:56)

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,16:46) Hi Nick, The Spirit, or Comforter, which Jesus sent from the Father to believers, is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us. Hi LU, Yes; And John 14:23 is in reference to “Pentecost”! (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

Edj

is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us.[/quote]
this is only true if you have the truth and proclaim it in all the things you do,

if not the spirit of the father and Christ does abide in you,

the spirit of God can not deny the truth

[Ed J]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:53)

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,01:29) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:19) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,00:56) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,16:46) Hi Nick, The Spirit, or Comforter, which Jesus sent from the Father to believers, is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us. Hi LU, Yes; And John 14:23 is in reference to “Pentecost”! (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi EdJ, But most of the disciples received the Holy Spirit the evening of the resurrection day. John 20:22 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” NASU Hi LU, AND; what is your point? Ed J Edj, John 14:23 happened to most of the disciples on the evening of the Resurrection Day and to others on Pentecost. John 14:23 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. NASU

Hi LU,

Do you also believe that we are to have our own personal “Pentecost”(John 14:23) as well?

Ed J

[kerwin]

I see a link between this thread and the one titled “Righteous in God's Eyes” also in the “Scripture $ Biblical Doctrine” forum. Here is a scripture I believe bears on both threads.

John 14:10(NIV) reads:

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Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work.

I have a question is God actually in scripture or is it just the Spirit of God that is in Jesus and Jesus' way of expressing that idea is to say “The Father is in me”?

[NickHassan]

Hi KW,
God as Spirit[Eph2]
God IS in heaven

[Ed J]

Quote (kerwin @ April 17 2010,20:32)

I have a question is God actually in scripture…

Hi Kerwin,

I hope this (to your satisfaction) answers the question you pose.

The Word(The Bible=63) came by being moved or inspired of God(YHVH=63). (2Pt:1:21 / 2Tm:3:16)

The Divine=63 Deity=63 of The Bible=63 is YHVH=63!
Metaphorically you can say: God(HolySpirit) is his word;
In John 1:1 that's exactly what the Apostle John did!

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Elizabeth]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,06:46)

The Lord is the Spirit.  What does that mean Quote 2 Cor 3 3 Are we beginning to commend ourselves again? Or do we need, as some, letters of commendation to you or from you? 2 You are our letter, written in our hearts, known and read by all men; 3 being manifested that you are a letter of Christ, cared for by us, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts. 4 Such confidence we have through Christ toward God. 5 Not that we are adequate in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our adequacy is from God, 6 who also made us adequate as servants of a new covenant, not of the letter but of the Spirit; for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. 7 But if the ministry of death, in letters engraved on stones, came with glory, so that the sons of Israel could not look intently at the face of Moses because of the glory of his face, fading as it was, 8 how will the ministry of the Spirit fail to be even more with glory? 9 For if the ministry of condemnation has glory, much more does the ministry of righteousness abound in glory. 10 For indeed what had glory, in this case has no glory because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if that which fades away was with glory, much more that which remains is in glory. 12 Therefore having such a hope, we use great boldness in our speech, 13 and are not like Moses, who used to put a veil over his face so that the sons of Israel would not look intently at the end of what was fading away. 14 But their minds were hardened; for until this very day at the reading of the old covenant the same veil remains unlifted, because it is removed in Christ. 15 But to this day whenever Moses is read, a veil lies over their heart; 16 but whenever a person turns to the Lord, the veil is taken away. 17 Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18 But we all, with unveiled face, beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from glory to glory, just as from the Lord, the Spirit. NASU I believe that this passage is comparing two different covenants with two different approaches to learning God's way for us to follow.   The Old Covenant's approach was to follow the written law that was written in stone.   The New Covenant approach is to follow what the Holy Spirit is writing on our hearts. So, which one will master you? The law written in stone, or the law written on our hearts by the Spirit.  Either the laws written in stone lord over you, or the laws written by the Spirit lord over you.  If you choose the laws written by the Spirit as lording over you, then the lord is the Spirit, not the written. That is what my understanding is of this matter.  Any thoughts? Kathi

The Law written in stone was the covenant God made with Israel.

Exd 34:28 And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments.

Exd 32:15 ¶ And Moses turned, and went down from the mount, and the two tables of the testimony were in his hand: the tables were written on both their sides; on the one side and on the other were they written.

Lev 27:34 ¶ These are the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses for the children of Israel in mount Sinai.

Meaning, the entire book of Leviticus.
If you want to know what applies to us, read Mat. 5, 6, and 7.

Georg

[NickHassan]

Hi,
The Lord is the Spirit.
It was true before he came, while he was with us and still true.

“Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever”

God visited His people as spirit in the vessel of His son.
But men want to build tabernacles to the vessels.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ April 18 2010,05:30)

Hi, The Lord is the Spirit. It was true before he came, while he was with us and still true. “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today and forever” God visited His people as spirit in the vessel of His son. But men want to build tabernacles to the vessels.

nick

you got it right,from the beginning God planted the seed of Christ trough out the scriptures ,that is why the apostles were waiting for Christ to show himself so they could go to him,

God and Christ spirit are all written in the scriptures,by us feeding and put them in our hearts the truth of the word if we live in accord with them ,we will received approval trough his spirit now within us.

[Lightenup]

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,02:21)

Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:53) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,01:29) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:19) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,00:56) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,16:46) Hi Nick, The Spirit, or Comforter, which Jesus sent from the Father to believers, is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us. Hi LU, Yes; And John 14:23 is in reference to “Pentecost”! (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi EdJ, But most of the disciples received the Holy Spirit the evening of the resurrection day. John 20:22 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” NASU Hi LU, AND; what is your point? Ed J Edj, John 14:23 happened to most of the disciples on the evening of the Resurrection Day and to others on Pentecost. John 14:23 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. NASU Hi LU, Do you also believe that we are to have our own personal “Pentecost”(John 14:23) as well? Ed J

Edj,
I believe all believers in Christ as Lord receive the Comforter at a time that is personal to them. Does that answer your question? I don't believe that the Bible refers to that time as our own “personal Pentecost.”

[NickHassan]

Hi LU,
No need for repentance and water baptism or even seeking the blessing?
Most assume they have the Spirit as they indulge in false religion.

[Ed J]

Quote (Lightenup @ April 18 2010,18:42)

Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,02:21) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:53) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,01:29) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,17:19) Quote (Ed J @ April 17 2010,00:56) Quote (Lightenup @ April 17 2010,16:46) Hi Nick, The Spirit, or Comforter, which Jesus sent from the Father to believers, is both the spirit of the Father and the Son which abide in us and we have fellowship with them through the Spirit within us. Hi LU, Yes; And John 14:23 is in reference to “Pentecost”! (Click Here) God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org Hi EdJ, But most of the disciples received the Holy Spirit the evening of the resurrection day. John 20:22 22 And when He had said this, He breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit.” NASU Hi LU, AND; what is your point? Ed J Edj, John 14:23 happened to most of the disciples on the evening of the Resurrection Day and to others on Pentecost. John 14:23 23 Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. NASU Hi LU, Do you also believe that we are to have our own personal “Pentecost”(John 14:23) as well? Ed J Edj, I believe all believers in Christ as Lord receive the Comforter at a time that is personal to them.  Does that answer your question?  I don't believe that the Bible refers to that time as our own “personal Pentecost.”

Hi LU,

Yes; thanks.

People need: “BIBLE PERCEPTION“=151, to understand “BIBLE TRUTH“=117 ! (AKJV Eph.4:22-24)
“The Savior”=117 is [117=יהוה האלהים](JEHOVAH GOD); Known as “GOD The Father”=117! (Isaiah 43:11)
“The God Numbers”=151 (26, 63, 74, 117 & 151) helps corroborate “Bible Truth”=117!

                God's Name [יהוה] translates DIRECTLY into English as “YHVH”=63
                The “Divine”=63 “Deity”=63 of “The Bible”=63 is “YHVH”=63 !
Hosea 6:3 Then shall we know, if we follow on to know the LORD: his going forth
                is prepared as the morning; and he shall come unto us as the rain, as
                [“The Latter Rain“=151 and “former rain“=117] unto the earth.

I added “Color”=63 to help grasp the “Ideas” God has put forth in His Word!
THE “THREE” MAIN “FEASTS OF GOD” (also called: “The Trinity”=148) are…

1) “The Passover”=148              “The Passover”: made possible “Pentecost”=117
    “Messiah: Jesus”=148                 “JESUS CHRIST“=151 was the “Testator”=151!

2) “Pentecost”=117                     Started  the “God Spirit”=117(Holy Spirit), which      
   “Former Rain”=117                   is “GOD THE FATHER”=117 reigning in Mankind!

3) “Feast of Booths”=151            begins The “HOLY SPIRIT”=151(The LORD JEHOVAH=151)
    “The Latter Rain”=151             “Tabernacles Feast”=151 is the culmination of all “THREE”!

          A Personal Pentecost for ALL Believers!

Jesus now sits at (the head of the corner) the right hand of “GOD The Father”=117;
Geometry(Block Geomttry=151) and Gematria(The God Numbers=151) can CLEARLY ILLUSTRATE this!
“The Large Box”=117 represents “GOD The Father”=117, “The Box”=74 inside represents “Jesus”=74!

                 

Psalm 110:1-2 The LORD (יהוה YÄ-hä-vā) said unto my Lord (יהשוע YÄ-shü-ă),
     Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.
     The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength (“HolySpirit“)
     out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies. (Psalm 124:7-125:1)

The “Day of The LORD” is the LAST of the “THREE” great feasts; which we are NOW in!
GOD is indeed ruling: even in the midst of his enemies! (Eccl.9:12-16 / Daniel 11:18)

                            “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of… (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Indeed God will make the enemies of King Jesus His footstool.
He now rules in the remnant, the few.
He will return AS HE LEFT
Kiss the Son.

[NickHassan]

Hi,
Because the Lord is the Spirit and has no life without of the Spirit we know our hope.
When we who are in Christ die we will know only the life of the Spirit.
No conflict with our own desires but united in Christ in God.

[GeneBalthrop]

ED J……….YOU would be far more effective if you would loose the numbers. IMO

peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
NOW the Lord is the Spirit.
Now that Jesus has been raised in the Spirit both he and His Father can be known in that Spirit.

Know the Spirit.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2010,09:40)

Hi T, NOW the Lord is the Spirit. Now that Jesus has been raised in the Spirit both he and His Father can be known in that Spirit. Know the Spirit.

nick

Christ is in heaven and is now living in the spirit he is a spirit being.

but before he left,he showed his Godly spirit mind to is apostles so that they written down how to follow him in that spirit ,and so we can benefit from there written word,guided by that same spirit and mind.

it is all about others not us

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
Seek first the kingdom and everything else will be added to you.
First all must be joined to his body and then receive his Spirit.

Then the Spirit will teach men from within according to the sacred word.

[terraricca]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 05 2010,17:03)

Hi T, Seek first the kingdom and everything else will be added to you. First all must be joined to his body and then receive his Spirit. Then the Spirit will teach men from within according to the sacred word.

nick

you can not become a member of Christ church unless Christ chose you,and those are numbered 144k
we are invited to the wedding as guests for the faith in Christ and the grace of God,

in reality there is no wedding this is a parable to mark the reunion of all Christ brothers and apostles in Gods kingdom.

I personally will take anything Christ and God give me i am only a grain of sand.

anyone who put is faith in Christ and follow is word is seeking the kingdom

[NickHassan]

Hi T,
The bridegroom says a lot about the wedding.
I will bring up the thread.

Demons believe but servants obey.
You must be born again.

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