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The second death, after the second resurrection, that of the nations, is for souls not found righteous and in the flock of Christ.Revelation 19:20
And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.Revelation 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.Revelation 20:14
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.Revelation 20:15
And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.It was not made for men but angels, as Mt 25 shows.
Men should listen to the voice of Christ now.
The door is still open to eternal life.Hi,
In the gospels it is referred to as gehenna.[ylt]
Matthew 5:22
but I — I say to you, that every one who is angry at his brother without cause, shall be in danger of the judgment, and whoever may say to his brother, Empty fellow! shall be in danger of the sanhedrim, and whoever may say, Rebel! shall be in danger of the gehenna of the fire.
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Matthew 5:29
`But, if thy right eye doth cause thee to stumble, pluck it out and cast from thee, for it is good to thee that one of thy members may perish, and not thy whole body be cast to gehenna.Matthew 5:30
`And, if thy right hand doth cause thee to stumble, cut it off, and cast from thee, for it is good to thee that one of thy members may perish, and not thy whole body be cast to gehenna.Matthew 10:28
`And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.Matthew 18:9
`And if thine eye doth cause thee to stumble, pluck it out and cast from thee; it is good for thee one-eyed to enter into the life, rather than having two eyes to be cast to the gehenna of the fire.Matthew 23:15
`Wo to you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye go round the sea and the dry land to make one proselyte, and whenever it may happen — ye make him a son of gehenna twofold more than yourselves.Matthew 23:33
`Serpents! brood of vipers! how may ye escape from the judgment of the gehenna?Mark 9:43
`And if thy hand may cause thee to stumble, cut it off; it is better for thee maimed to enter into the life, than having the two hands, to go away to the gehenna, to the fire — the unquenchable —Mark 9:45
`And if thy foot may cause thee to stumble, cut it off; it is better for thee to enter into the life lame, than having the two feet to be cast to the gehenna, to the fire — the unquenchable —Mark 9:47
And if thine eye may cause thee to stumble, cast it out; it is better for thee one-eyed to enter into the reign of God, than having two eyes, to be cast to the gehenna of the fire —Luke 12:5
but I will show to you, whom ye may fear; Fear him who, after the killing, is having authority to cast to the gehenna; yes, I say to you, Fear ye Him.Hi,
Chosenone thinks this could just be figurative, a figure of speech.
That would make everything so much easier.Hi,
CO presented another novel idea about the lake of fire in another thread.“The judgment of unbelievers takes place in the interval between the passing of this present earth and the creation of the new. Every tie which bound them to the earth has been burned up. They are the subjects of the most astounding miracle ever wrought, having been raised from the dead. They are in the presence of the Divine Majesty. Their secrets are bared to His awful gaze. The character of their judgment, being adjusted to their acts, not simply as to severity but so as to correct them, will reveal God’s purpose to save and reconcile them to Himself. This, followed by their death in the lake of fire and subsequent vivification at the consummation, is the basis of their reconciliation through the blood of the cross “
So now the second death is just another sort of prgatory where sinners are cleaned up ready for another crack at becoming righteous.
Mt10
28`And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna.
Sounds a little foregn to what Jesus taught in Mt10.Quote (Samuel @ Mar. 16 2008,20:25) Are you having a conversation with your self here? 
There is nothing wrong with having a conversation with yourself…as long as there are no arguments
Quote 2 Co. 11:13. For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.The lake of fire was prepared for the devil and his angels (messengers).
Quote Matthew 25:41 NIV
“Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,08:25) Hi 94,
Which means it was not originally intended for men…. but they chose to follow Satan.
Hi Nick:God has forseen everything from the beginning to the end. The lake of fire was prepared for those who wilfully choose to follow Satan. The devil and his angels or messengers. There does appear to have been angelic beings who chose to follow Satan (Jude 1).
God is not willing that any man should perish but that all may come to repentance.
I thought the following chapter of 2 Peter also will shed some light relative this subject.
Quote 1. But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of .
3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4. For if God spared not the angels that sinned , but cast them down to hell , and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5. And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6. And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly ;
7. And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8. (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;)
9. The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished :
10. But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not ; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13. And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and
13. And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14. Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15. Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray , following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16. But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome , of the same is he brought in bondage .
20. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome , the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again ; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mireHi 94,
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.So those who follow and worship the murderer from the beginning, the father of lies, the source of occult powers and who have no faith such as to live for God will meet here.
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 17 2008,10:02) Hi 94,
Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.So those who follow and worship the murderer from the beginning, the father of lies, the source of occult powers and who have no faith such as to live for God will meet here.
Amen. So be it.I have a question. It says that the earth is being reserved for the destruction of the wicked. Is that not the Lake of fire? You know after the Millenium and Satan will be loosed a multitude of Human beings that will follow Satan. Don't they all receive the Lake of fire?
Peace and Love IreneHi Irene,
I have never seen that. Where is it written?Rev20
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.10And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
11And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
12And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
13And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
It seems that the lake of fire is not on earth because heaven and earth have fled at the time of the final judgement
Nick…..how can you cast death and hell into a lake of fire, you have to learn to see these things in a Spiritual and symbolic sense.
Hi GB,
No problem,
Hades is a place.
Sheol is a scriptural place
So can one meaning of DEATH be.Proverbs 5:5
Her feet go down to death,Her steps take hold of Sheol.Proverbs 7:27
Her house is the way to Sheol,Descending to the chambers of death.Isaiah 38:18
“For Sheol cannot thank You,Death cannot praise You;Those who go down to the pit cannot hope for Your faithfulness.Hosea 13:14
Shall I ransom them from the power of Sheol?Shall I redeem them from death? O Death, where are your thorns?O Sheol, where is your sting? Compassion will be hidden from My sight.Hi,
Matthew 25:41 NIV
“Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.So the fire is eternal.
Are angels immortal?Nick….it's obvious you don't know the word eternal is not even in scripture, because the Greek language contains no such word, it should be translated aeon, or (AGE). Check out the word. The scripture you quoted has to do with (NATIONS) not individual people. You should learn not to infuse your own desires into scripture. imo
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