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- June 23, 2012 at 5:04 pm#303782DevolutionParticipant
Psalm 25:14
The secret of the Lord is with them that fear Him; and He will shew them His covenant.Psalm 111:10
The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom; a good understanding have all they that do His commandments: his praise endureth for ever.Isaiah 5:13
Therefore My people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.Proverbs 14:6-7
A scorner seeketh wisdom, and findeth it not, but knowledge is easy to him that understandeth. Go from the prescence of a foolish man, when thou perceivest not in him the lips of knowledge.Proverbs 28:5
Evil men understand not judgement: but they that seek the Lord understand all things.Ecclesiastes 2:26
For God giveth to a man that is good in His sight wisdom, and knowledge, and joy: but to the sinner He giveth travail, to gather and to heap up, that He may give to him that is good before God.Hosea 4:6
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge; because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to Me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.Hosea 6:6
For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.Matthew 25:29
For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.Mark 4:23-25
If any man have ears to hear, let him hear. And He said unto them, Take heed what you hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given. For he that hath, to him shall be given: and he that hath not, from him shall be taken even that which he hath.1 Corinthians 1:4-5
I thank my God always on your behalf, for the grace of God which is given you by Jesus Christ; That in every thing ye are enriched by Him, in all utterance,and in all knowledge.Colossians 1:9-10
For this cause we also, since the day we heard of it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of His will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God.Colossians 1:26-28
> Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
> To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
> Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.Colossians 2:2-3
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.Colossians 3:10
And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:Ephesians 1:17-18
> That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him:
> The eyes of your understanding being enlightened; that ye may know what is the hope of his calling, and what the riches of the glory of his inheritance in the saintsEphesians 5:17
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.Philippians 3:8
Yea, doubtless, and i count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom i have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that i may win Christ.Philippians 1:9
And this i pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment.The knowledge of God shapes us, changes us, perfects us.
It doesn't happen overnight, but is a process like childhood to adulthood.
If we please the Lord, He will grace us with more knowledge at every spiritual growth spurt as we mature and change.
We can not mature if we don't change.
Knowledge without change is false knowledge…knowledge by our own wisdom…and that knowledge is faulty.Change is the result of obeying.
Obeying is the result of submitting.
Submitting is the result of agreeing.One can not obey if one does not agree, and if one does not agree, one will never change, and if one does not change, one has not submitted, and not submitting is rebellion, spirit will not grow in a rebellious soul.
Change is the key to all knowledge..changing is what pleases the Lord…when one changes for the Lord, one is agreeing with the Lord, and true knowledge will follow, slowly at first, line upon line, precept upon precept, measure by measure, here a little, there a little.
Without change, knowledge is stunted, (knowledge comes from feeding on the word which stimulates change which provides growth), and when knowledge is stunted, the spirit within slowly starves, and when one starves, one will eat anything to fill that growing hunger, hunger from a dying spirit, and here is where strange doctrines are consumed, consumed because one refused to submit, which is not obeying, which is not agreeing, which is not changing, which can never please God, who Himself will take back that knowledge bit by bit, line by line, precept by precept, which will drain that spirit within, which will begin to starve and die, which will cry out for food, any food, and one who experiences this thing, begins to eat strange flesh (doctrines), which pollutes what spirit is left, and what knowledge/spirit that one had before, even that will be taken away, and the end result is that one being tossed by the waves of many a erroneous doctrine, because such a one within his spirit, unknowingly or knowingly, did not agree, thus he could not submit, which made obeying impossible and change was left floundering in the shadows, and such a one will fall backwards and perish.
So he who truly has knowledge of God, is one who has been changing for God, and in that knowledge is woven love, compassion, humility, charity and all things fruitful to godliness in all wisdom and faith…
Change…change is the key…
Not universities, not studying Greek or Hebrew, playing the word game, comparing words and meanings in an never ending loop of confusion …words and meanings need no scrutinizing if one is given understanding from God to discern the message in the first place.It is what Jesus kept trying to tell us…
Keep sweeping out that house until the inside is clean, for those who obey and do as such, to those will He and His Father come and sup with.
It is not always easy, but as long as we keep trying, really trying, get up every time we stumble, endeavor to conquer all flaws in sincerity of Godly conscience, He will always be there to help us back on our feet until that stumbling block is cleared. Dusting us off as we prepare to leap the next hurdle…and the next…and the next!
Keep changing brothers and sisters…
We all have much cleaning to do…me included.
Praise the Lord who supplies freely.
Amen.June 23, 2012 at 6:24 pm#303787terrariccaParticipantdevo
well presented ,and the spirit from the knowledge of Gods word does his work ,because it make us move to apply our lives to that knowledge,this is the action of the words of live that Christ talked about ,if you are not drawn to God or Christ because of your knowledge of them then it is because you are already dead ,even if you are still walking,
June 23, 2012 at 8:08 pm#303799NickHassanParticipantHi D,
Knowing God is the aim.
Becoming an expert is not that helpfulJune 23, 2012 at 11:45 pm#303848WakeupParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,07:08) Hi D,
Knowing God is the aim.
Becoming an expert is not that helpful
Nick.Without any experts there can be no teachers.
It will be the experts that will be teaching the jews in the kingdom.Jesus is an expert in teaching the apostles.
wakeup.
June 24, 2012 at 12:18 am#303853mikeboll64BlockedJohn 17:3
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.I take in knowledge of God and the one whom He sent forth by asking for spiritual guidance while reading the Bible again and again and again (I'm in Hebrews on my 4th time through right now). In this way, I hope to become as “expert” as I possibly can in things pertaining to my Creator.
But some here fault others for using their God-given brains – as if scriptural truth and logical sense are for some reason antitheses. I hold that scriptural truth should, and does, make perfect sense to human beings. After all, the scriptures are there for us, not angels.
June 24, 2012 at 12:41 am#303854WakeupParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2012,11:18) John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.I take in knowledge of God and the one whom He sent forth by asking for spiritual guidance while reading the Bible again and again and again (I'm in Hebrews on my 4th time through right now). In this way, I hope to become as “expert” as I possibly can in things pertaining to my Creator.
But some here fault others for using their God-given brains – as if scriptural truth and logical sense are for some reason antitheses. I hold that scriptural truth should, and does, make perfect sense to human beings. After all, the scriptures are there for us, not angels.
Mike B.You seem to be truly seeking,all you need to do is ask questions.For there are many questions unanswered in the christian world.Ask,why this and why that.why is it so?
wakeup.
June 24, 2012 at 4:26 am#303869terrariccaParticipantwu
Quote You seem to be truly seeking,all you need to do is ask questions.For there are many questions unanswered in the christian world.Ask,why this and why that.why is it so? wakeup.
do you know of any question unanswered ?
June 24, 2012 at 4:47 am#303877NickHassanParticipantHi WU,
Yes we must KNOW our God.
About Him too.June 24, 2012 at 5:25 pm#303904DevolutionParticipantQuote (terraricca @ June 24 2012,05:24) devo well presented ,and the spirit from the knowledge of Gods word does his work ,because it make us move to apply our lives to that knowledge,this is the action of the words of live that Christ talked about ,if you are not drawn to God or Christ because of your knowledge of them then it is because you are already dead ,even if you are still walking,
Thanks Pierre,That was well said…and with far less words
Cheers.
June 24, 2012 at 5:45 pm#303905DevolutionParticipantQuote (mikeboll64 @ June 24 2012,11:18) John 17:3
This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.I take in knowledge of God and the one whom He sent forth by asking for spiritual guidance while reading the Bible again and again and again (I'm in Hebrews on my 4th time through right now). In this way, I hope to become as “expert” as I possibly can in things pertaining to my Creator.
But some here fault others for using their God-given brains – as if scriptural truth and logical sense are for some reason antitheses. I hold that scriptural truth should, and does, make perfect sense to human beings. After all, the scriptures are there for us, not angels.
Hi Mike,Nicely put. And agreed. I like hebrews too…alot of jewels in that book.
I agree on your second statement too…After all, God does ask us to be able to answer every man…i guess logic dictates that to answer every man, one would need be an expert for sure…Cheers.
June 24, 2012 at 5:49 pm#303906DevolutionParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,07:08) Hi D,
Knowing God is the aim.
Becoming an expert is not that helpful
Hi Nick,Thanks for your input, yes, knowing God is the aim.
And if you really really knew someone, then you'd surely be considered an expert character witness if ever called to cout on their behalf.cheers.
June 24, 2012 at 5:51 pm#303907DevolutionParticipantQuote (Devolution @ June 25 2012,04:49) Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 24 2012,07:08) Hi D,
Knowing God is the aim.
Becoming an expert is not that helpful
Hi Nick,Thanks for your input, yes, knowing God is the aim.
And if you really really knew someone, then you'd surely be considered an expert character witness if ever called to cout on their behalf.cheers.
Oops…Quote Thanks for your input, yes, knowing God is the aim.
And if you really really knew someone, then you'd surely be considered an expert character witness if ever called to cout on their behalf.Sorry, typo, i meant court
cheers.
June 24, 2012 at 5:56 pm#303909terrariccaParticipantQuote (Devolution @ June 25 2012,11:25) Quote (terraricca @ June 24 2012,05:24) devo well presented ,and the spirit from the knowledge of Gods word does his work ,because it make us move to apply our lives to that knowledge,this is the action of the words of live that Christ talked about ,if you are not drawn to God or Christ because of your knowledge of them then it is because you are already dead ,even if you are still walking,
Thanks Pierre,That was well said…and with far less words
Cheers.
June 24, 2012 at 6:52 pm#303917NickHassanParticipantHi D,
Yes.
But theology is what most are about.
Trying to describe what they do not and cannot know. [jn 5.37-38]June 24, 2012 at 7:00 pm#303918mikeboll64BlockedAnd what is it that YOU do here, Nick?
June 24, 2012 at 7:08 pm#303924terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2012,12:52) Hi D,
Yes.
But theology is what most are about.
Trying to describe what they do not and cannot know. [jn 5.37-38]
Nfor a man that does not believe the words of Christ in scriptures ,and believe the theologian you have guts to say what you here said
June 24, 2012 at 7:15 pm#303929NickHassanParticipantHi GB,
I point to Christ Jesus as the way to God.June 24, 2012 at 7:16 pm#303930NickHassanParticipantHi T,
Still judging?
Is that wise?June 24, 2012 at 7:24 pm#303936terrariccaParticipantQuote (Nick Hassan @ June 25 2012,13:16) Hi T,
Still judging?
Is that wise?
NI just point out what I know,
June 24, 2012 at 7:25 pm#303937NickHassanParticipantHi T,
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