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Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2010,04:57) Karmarie……………..Excellent post , i see it exactly that way also. We Will also have Bodies exactly as Jesus has, He is not an invisible Spirit floating around in space, but he was raised with a new Body that can not die. And it had flesh and bone, Good Post sis. peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
No , Thank YOU Gene, I used to believe as others, but then I read one of your posts, and I cheaked it out myself, and you were right I believe, so thankyou.Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2010,15:12) Ed J…………Jesus did not return at Pentecost, Your getting Jesus' resurrection mixed up with Pentecost. Pentecost means count fifty it was a feast day in ancient Israel and still is kept by Jew now. Jesus did not return at Pentecost brother. That is when GOD the Father poured forth His spirit upon all flesh as Peter said. We are told Jesus would return in like manner as He left, in the clouds of heaven. Why do you think Jesus returned at Pentecost. He told his disciples to wait for the Power from on high to be given them from the Father. He never said it would Himself that was coming back at that time. peace and love……………………….gene
Hi Gene,'Your' getting Pentecost 'confused' with “The Day of the LORD”
which is “THE THIRD” of the “Three” great feasts of YHVH !Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 08 2010,21:31) Ed, The scripture is there for us to grow in understanding. God reveals what he will when he will.
Hi Karmarie,Then why are you not open to it?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 08 2010,21:31) Ed, To read it for years, to perhaps not be satisfied with it…
Hi Karmarie,Are you not satisfied with it?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 08 2010,21:31) Ed, …to ask for 'a sign' as you said you did…
Hi Karmarie,What are you talking about?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 08 2010,21:31) Ed, But know this, that in the last days men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God – we are in the last days…
Hi Karmarie,It is the last days of Lucifer rule, that's why he's kicking
so hard in the hearts of men (and women).God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 08 2010,21:31) Ed, Ed, the sign that you need isnt hidden in scripture, its what is obviously there, nothing else needs to be found…
Hi Karmarie,Why aren't Atheists believing yet?
The offer is rock solid PROOF!Prov:18:13: He that answereth a matter before
he(or she) heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
Prob.25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing:
but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 08 2010,08:07)
Hi Karmarie,2Peter 3:10 But “the day of the Lord” will come as a thief in the night;
in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.Elements: Greek #4747 στοιχεῖον stoy-khi'-on:
(Gen.2:17) the elements of knowledge , principally: Rudiments.
What gets 'burned up' is the 'rudiments'! (2Peter 3:10)
Rudiments: A fundamental skill, something uniformed,
an arrangement unable to perform it's normal function.Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Luke 18:7-8)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Karmarie,Here are the 'elements' (Greek #4747) in 2Peter 3:10 that are BURNING UP!
Col.2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy (of a flesh return) and vain deceit (Hab.2:9-10),
after THE TRADITION OF MEN, after the 'RUDIMENTS' of the world (Greek #4747), and not after Christ.The systems of religion and traditions of men communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.Habakkuk 2:9-10 Woe to him that coveteth an evil covetousness to his house(Isaiah 5:18-21),
that he may set his nest on high (rapture), that he may be delivered from the power of evil! Thou
hast consulted shame to thy house by cutting off many people, and hast sinned against thy soul.Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 08 2010,08:07) Quote (karmarie @ July 07 2010,20:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,22:16) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, Hi.The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
The day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way what kind of people ought you to be?….
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat….
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
(2nd Peter 3…7,10,11 and 13)You say the 'image of the beast' is the return of Jesus in the flesh
You say he has already returned, and that there will be no destruction.
Hi Karmarie,2Peter 3:10 But “the day of the Lord” will come as a thief in the night;
in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.Elements: Greek #4747 στοιχεῖον stoy-khi'-on:
(Gen.2:17) the elements of knowledge , principally: Rudiments.
What gets 'burned up' is the 'rudiments'! (2Peter 3:10)
Rudiments: A fundamental skill, something uniformed,
an arrangement unable to perform it's normal function.Luke 21:34-35 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with
[pain], and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.Eccl.9:12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net,
and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men
snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.Luke 21:36: Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may
be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall
come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Luke 18:7-8)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Hi Karmarie,Isaiah 5:18-21 Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity (Habakkuk 2:9-10),
and sin as it were with a cart rope: That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work,
that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come,
that we may know it! Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put
darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!
Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!Ed J (Isaiah 27:4-5)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,02:01) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2010,15:12) Ed J…………Jesus did not return at Pentecost, Your getting Jesus' resurrection mixed up with Pentecost. Pentecost means count fifty it was a feast day in ancient Israel and still is kept by Jew now. Jesus did not return at Pentecost brother. That is when GOD the Father poured forth His spirit upon all flesh as Peter said. We are told Jesus would return in like manner as He left, in the clouds of heaven. Why do you think Jesus returned at Pentecost. He told his disciples to wait for the Power from on high to be given them from the Father. He never said it would Himself that was coming back at that time. peace and love……………………….gene
Hi Gene,'Your' getting Pentecost 'confused' with “The Day of the LORD”
which is “THE THIRD” of the “Three” great feasts of YHVH !Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J………..Don't need to Check there, I had Kept all of God's Feast-days for many years and full well know that the Day of Pentecost which given that name because it means count Fifty days after the Passover was the day the Isrealites Kept the feast. Some call it the feast of weeks . I know all seven of GOD'S HOLY DAYS days if you would like i can name them for you.The first is Passover
second is Days of unleavened bread
third is the feast of weeks or Pentecost same thing
fourth is the day of atonement
fifth is the day of trumpets
sixth is the Feast of tabernacles
seventh is the last great dayThese seven Holy days were commanded for Israel to Keep. And the Jews still do.
peace and love…………………….gene
If I may correct you, Passover, although commanded to be kept, is not a holy day; the first is “the first day of unleavened bread; the second is, “the seventh day of unleavened bread.”
Quote (karmarie @ July 07 2010,21:20) Quote (Arnold @ July 07 2010,22:17) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:49) No Ed thats not true. Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)… At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.
Let me just remind you what happened to Paul, when Jesus appeared to him in his glorified body.Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
There is no such thing as a glorified “flesh” body.
Jesus was in the flesh after the resurrection, He told the disiples when he appeared to them, “Behold my hands and feet, that it is I myself, handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see me have” He ate fish and bread. His resurrected body was different though, it was glorified. It didnt have the limitations we have. Jesus appeared in rooms where doors were closed. He never did that before but only after the ressurection. He ascended to heaven. There is a natural body and a spiritual body. The spiritual body is the glorified. It is an incorrupt body, but it is a body.
Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.Jesus was raised with the body he had before he became man, spirit.
Jhn 17:4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2010,16:29) Quote (Ed J @ July 09 2010,02:01) Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 08 2010,15:12) Ed J…………Jesus did not return at Pentecost, Your getting Jesus' resurrection mixed up with Pentecost. Pentecost means count fifty it was a feast day in ancient Israel and still is kept by Jew now. Jesus did not return at Pentecost brother. That is when GOD the Father poured forth His spirit upon all flesh as Peter said. We are told Jesus would return in like manner as He left, in the clouds of heaven. Why do you think Jesus returned at Pentecost. He told his disciples to wait for the Power from on high to be given them from the Father. He never said it would Himself that was coming back at that time. peace and love……………………….gene
Hi Gene,'Your' getting Pentecost 'confused' with “The Day of the LORD”
which is “THE THIRD” of the “Three” great feasts of YHVH !Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
ED J………..Don't need to Check there, I had Kept all of God's Feast-days for many years and full well know that the Day of Pentecost which given that name because it means count Fifty days after the Passover was the day the Isrealites Kept the feast. Some call it the feast of weeks . I know all seven of GOD'S HOLY DAYS days if you would like i can name them for you.The first is Passover
second is Days of unleavened bread
third is the feast of weeks or Pentecost same thing
fourth is the day of atonement
fifth is the day of trumpets
sixth is the Feast of tabernacles
seventh is the last great dayThese seven Holy days were commanded for Israel to Keep. And the Jews still do.
peace and love…………………….gene
Hi Gene,You should know that they have “Spiritual meanings” to them!
“The Trinity”=148 represents the three main feasts. (Click Here)
There are “Seven” feasts unto The LORD in all is true. (Click here)God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everybody,
I pulled this from Here as it is on topic here.
Quote (Gene @ Jan. 04 2010,15:57) Ed J………..I also believe that Jesus being Portrayed as GOD or the “I AM”, Is the great LIE Spoken of in 2Ths2, It is the False image portrayed by Trinitarians that Jesus is GOD and where it say he will destory it ( that word should be (abolish it) (the LIE) by Jesus' own mouth at His return. There is no real man of Sin (it is a (FALSE) Image of Jesus being a GOD. A LIE. Good Post, IMO peace and love to you and yours………………gene
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Everybody,
2Thess.2:1-4 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ,
and by our gathering together unto him, That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be
troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of
Christ is at hand. Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come,
except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of
perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is
worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.According to these verses we can only gather together after
son of perdition is named; I identify who he is for you Here.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi ED,
Yes the apostasy has occurred so he can come back any time.
Will he find faith on the earth?
Or deception?Hello Ed,
I noticed in your post that I'd like help with in regards to your numbering system, ok?
This man (beast) has a number 666. Who is this by your system?
The Professor
Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 26 2010,15:29) Hi ED,
Yes the apostasy has occurred so he can come back any time.
Will he find faith on the earth?
Or deception?
Hi Nick,Apparently it will be hard for him to find faith on the earth or he wouldn't have asked the question, no?
Ed brought up a good verse in Mk 3:24 about a kingdom divided can't stand.
If you look at heaven.net and see us as a kingdom, wouldn't you say that we are divided?
Hi David,
If we can't get agreement on the issue of this thread, (And Here)
how can we get Christian agreement on all issues? (2Thess.2:1-4)Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
יהוה האלהים (JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgEd,
You have an excellent point.
I don't think anyone is wanting or trying to come to a mutual understanding.
It seems that Nick is in the position to do this but he wants to instigate dissention versus harmony and seldom addresses what is really addressed and side-tracks others.
Until you get a moderator that will back up his comments with verses and a logical purpose it is just someone mouthing off, trying to piss people off.
Which is possibly his purpose, no? Devil's advocate.
Unfortunately, we take the bait and respond. (Jude 12)
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