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Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,12:51) Hi KM,
ED has his own ideas here.
Keep studying where truth is found
Hi Nick,Do you now agree with bodhitharta? (Luke 12:10 / John 15:18-21)
Did you know the Pharisees said similar things of Jesus. (Mt.12:24)Ed J (Eccl.9:12-16 / Isaiah 27:4-5)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Nick Hassan @ July 06 2010,14:51) Hi KM,
ED has his own ideas here.
Keep studying where truth is found
Thankyou for that advice Nick.Much appreciated.
Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,14:48) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:49) No Ed thats not true. 1) Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)…
2) At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.
Hi Karmarie,You need to study a bit more, but NOT the 'systems of religion'!
The systems of religion and traditions of men do communicate…
distortions of truth, confusion of mind, and distractions of spirit.1) Just because you say it DOESN'T make it come true?
Where is 'your' Scriptural support? (Isaiah 5:18-21)2) What gets 'burned up' is the 'rudiments'! (2Peter 3:10-13)
Elements: Greek #4747 στοιχεῖον stoy-khi'-on:
the elements of knowledge, principally: Rudiments.
Rudiments: A fundamental skill, something uniformed,
an arrangement unable to perform it's normal function.God bless (Ecclesiastes 9:12-16)
Ed J (Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:14)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed,1) The bible says it not me.
2) Thats your theory. Not Peters.
Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,07:02) Hi Georg, Perhaps all these Scriptures will help you to
understand what the image of the beast really is?Psalm 73:20-22 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O
Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.
Thus my heart was grieved, and I was pricked in my reins.
So foolish was I, and ignorant: I was as a beast before thee.John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
In the beginning God created man (Mankind) in God's image. (Gen. 1:26-27)
Since Adams fall, Adam procreated Seth in his fallen nature image. (Gen.3:5)1Cor.15:49: And as we have borne the image of the earthy(Like Seth), (Rev. 13:15)
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly(Same as Christ!). (2Corinthians 4:3-4)God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Is not this thread about “the image of the beast”?
As usual, all your scriptures are nothing but a decoy to cover up your ignorance.Hi Georg,
God's image can't be used to show contrast?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (Ed J @ July 07 2010,08:08) Hi Georg, God's image can't be used to show contrast?
God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Who is talking about God's image?YOU ARE SUCH A FAKE! A PRETENDER, giving false witness.
Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,22:16) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, Hi.That Jesus was risen in the flesh and will come in the same way…
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” -2 John 7
“Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe” – John 20:27.
“Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” – Acts 1:11
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That at his return there will be destruction…
The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
The day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way what kind of people ought you to be?….
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat….
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
(2nd Peter 3…7,10,11 and 13)You say the 'image of the beast' is the return of Jesus in the flesh
You say he has already returned, and that there will be no destruction.
Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:49) No Ed thats not true. Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)… At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.
Let me just remind you what happened to Paul, when Jesus appeared to him in his glorified body.Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
There is no such thing as a glorified “flesh” body.
Quote (Arnold @ July 07 2010,22:17) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,09:49) No Ed thats not true. Jesus will return in the flesh in his new glorified body, every eye will see (No thats not 'spiritual eye' as the JWs say either)… At his return the world and the works on it will be burnt up, that hasnt happened yet.
Let me just remind you what happened to Paul, when Jesus appeared to him in his glorified body.Act 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
There is no such thing as a glorified “flesh” body.
Jesus was in the flesh after the resurrection, He told the disiples when he appeared to them, “Behold my hands and feet, that it is I myself, handle me and see, for a spirit hath not flesh and bones as you see me have” He ate fish and bread. His resurrected body was different though, it was glorified. It didnt have the limitations we have. Jesus appeared in rooms where doors were closed. He never did that before but only after the ressurection. He ascended to heaven. There is a natural body and a spiritual body. The spiritual body is the glorified. It is an incorrupt body, but it is a body.
Karmarie……………..Excellent post , i see it exactly that way also. We Will also have Bodies exactly as Jesus has, He is not an invisible Spirit floating around in space, but he was raised with a new Body that can not die. And it had flesh and bone, Good Post sis.
peace and love to you and yours……………………..gene
Quote (karmarie @ July 07 2010,20:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,22:16) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, Hi.That Jesus was risen in the flesh and will come in the same way…
1) “For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” -2 John 7
2) “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe” – John 20:27.
3) “Men of Galilee, why do you stand looking into heaven? This Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will come in the same way as you saw him go into heaven.” – Acts 1:11
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HI Karmarie,1) Yes; Jesus came in the flesh, to say otherwise is 'antichrist'!
2) Yes; Jesus was resurrected, and that verse illustrates this Fact!
3) Luke 24:13-34 is an example of what the two were speaking of in your point #3!
At Pentecost Jesus had returned, but there were some that their eyes were holden that they should not know him!Luke 24:13-34 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus,
which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs. And they talked together of all these
things which had happened. And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned,
Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him.
And he said unto them, What manner of communications are these that ye have one to another, as ye walk,
and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger
in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? And he said unto them,
What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word
before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death,
and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this,
to day is the third day since these things were done. Yea, and certain women also of our company made us
astonished, which were early at the sepulchre; And when they found not his body, they came, saying,
that they had also seen a vision of angels, which said that he was alive. And certain of them which were
with us went to the sepulchre, and found it even so as the women had said: but him they saw not.
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses
and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further.
But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went
in to tarry with them. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake,
and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 07 2010,20:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,22:16) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, Hi.That at his return there will be destruction…
The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
The day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way what kind of people ought you to be?….
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat….
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
(2nd Peter 3…7,10,11 and 13)
Hi Karmarie,Your getting the feasts mixed up. “The day of The Lord”
is the third feast, Jesus returned it the second!“The Passover“=148
[74+74=148]
Jesus=74 + cross=74 = (פסח=148) “The Passover”=148“Pentecost“=117
“Former Rain”=117
(Jesus was alive on day FOUR)
63=”YHVH” RAISED BACK TO LIFE,
+54 days after the 'cross': STARTED…
117=”Pentecost” [63+54=117]
“The Latter Rain”=151
“Feast of Booths“=151
(Feast [of] Tabernacles=151)
“Jesus is Lord”=151, because
“HolySpirit”=151 (Jesus' Father) is…
“The LORD JEHOVAH”=151
Click Here for moreGod bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgQuote (karmarie @ July 07 2010,20:08) Quote (Ed J @ July 06 2010,22:16) Quote (karmarie @ July 06 2010,19:38) Ed, The bible says it not me.
Hi Karmarie,Please do show where?
We can reason together; right? (Isaiah 1:18)
Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD…God bless
Ed J (Joshua 22:34)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
Ed, Hi.The present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
The day of the Lord will come like a thief.
The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.
Since everything will be destroyed in this way what kind of people ought you to be?….
That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat….
But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth,
(2nd Peter 3…7,10,11 and 13)You say the 'image of the beast' is the return of Jesus in the flesh
You say he has already returned, and that there will be no destruction.
Hi Karmarie,2Peter 3:10 But “the day of the Lord” will come as a thief in the night;
in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise,
and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth
also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.Elements: Greek #4747 στοιχεῖον stoy-khi'-on:
(Gen.2:17) the elements of knowledge , principally: Rudiments.
What gets 'burned up' is the 'rudiments'! (2Peter 3:10)
Rudiments: A fundamental skill, something uniformed,
an arrangement unable to perform it's normal function.Luke 21:34-35 And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with
[pain], and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares.
For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.Eccl.9:12 For man also knoweth not his time: as the fishes that are taken in an evil net,
and as the birds that are caught in the snare; so are the sons of men
snared in an evil time, when it falleth suddenly upon them.Luke 21:36: Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may
be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall
come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man.Ed J (Daniel 11:18 / Luke 18:7-8)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.orgHi Ed,
There will be terrible times before Jesus stands again on earth.
Even the elements will be burned up
Is 24Ed J…………Jesus did not return at Pentecost, Your getting Jesus' resurrection mixed up with Pentecost. Pentecost means count fifty it was a feast day in ancient Israel and still is kept by Jew now. Jesus did not return at Pentecost brother. That is when GOD the Father poured forth His spirit upon all flesh as Peter said. We are told Jesus would return in like manner as He left, in the clouds of heaven. Why do you think Jesus returned at Pentecost. He told his disciples to wait for the Power from on high to be given them from the Father. He never said it would Himself that was coming back at that time.
peace and love……………………….gene
Ed,
The scripture is there for us to grow in understanding. God reveals what he will when he will. To read it for years, to perhaps not be satisfied with it, to ask for 'a sign' as you said you did, Jesus said an evil generation looks for a sign but no sign is given but that of Jonah. “For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth”. Jonah was 'spat out', he then did as God had asked, he went to the people of Ninevah – and preached to them. Jesus left a legacy to be preached and that has happened. – But know this, that in the last days men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God – we are in the last days, Ed, the sign that you need isnt hidden in scripture, its what is obviously there, nothing else needs to be found but God, his son, ourselves, and others 'That they may know thee the only true God and Jesus who though sent'
To love the Lord our God with all our hearts and mind and souls and our neighbour as ourself.
Yes, it says – narrow is the path few are those finding it – but to be 'pefected in love' as the scripture says you truely know God. And what God truely loves will not be forgotten.
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