The image of the beast

[karmarie]

Ok, I think I remember now, a return of Jesus in 'the flesh', you say Jesus returned on pentecost. But Ed, this isnt THE day of the Lord.
THE day of the Lord will be a day of fire, and destruction.

So, I still dont get what your meaning? The image of the beast is?

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ June 27 2010,23:44)

Ok, I think I remember now, a return of Jesus in 'the flesh', you say Jesus returned on pentecost. But Ed, this isnt THE day of the Lord. THE day of the Lord will be a day of fire, and destruction. So, I still dont get what your meaning? The image of the beast is?

Hi Karmarie,

Rev.13:15: And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should
both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
The false prophet: whoever does not worship the flesh return image should be killed. (John 16:1-3)

John 16:2-3 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that
whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service. And these things will
they do unto you, because they have not known the Father (יהוה), nor me (יהשוע).

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Hi Everyone,

Here's even more evidence…

2Cor. 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have
known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more (after the flesh).

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ June 27 2010,23:44)

Ok, I think I remember now, a return of Jesus in 'the flesh', you say Jesus returned on pentecost. But Ed, this isnt THE day of the Lord. THE day of the Lord will be a day of fire, and destruction. So, I still dont get what your meaning? The image of the beast is?

HI Karmarie,

If you still don't understand the image, even after my last two Posts,
feel free to ask questions and I will endeavor to answer them; OK?

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Jesus will return but not in flesh but in his new imperishable spiritual body[1Cor15]
Those in him will be raised to meet him in the air.
Then he will return to earth

[Ed J]

Hi Nick,

Jesus returned in Spirit form with his father “HolySpirit” at “Pentecost”. (John 14:23) (Click Here)
A 'FAKE' flesh return is the image that the 'false prophet' causes all to worship! (Jer.23:16-20)

Ezek.12:27-28 Son of man, behold, they of the house of Israel say, The vision that he seeth is
for many days to come, and he prophesieth of the times that are far off. Therefore say unto
them, Thus saith ; There shall none of my words be prolonged
any more, but the word which I have spoken shall be done, saith the LORD GOD.

                            “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[karmarie]

Ed, I still dont know what you mean. A false flesh return of Jesus, so are you saying a false Jesus will come from the sky and fool everyone? PLEASE Ed, dont answer with scripture quotes but just something I can understand?

[JustAskin]

Edj,

i echo Karmarie's query.

I don't get what you are trying to say.

Please don't just quote Scriptures – it helps – but – better to expand it to more human understandable form. Please.

[GeneBalthrop]

Karmaie………We are told this same Jesus will return as He went up and all the world will see Him , He went up from them with a BODY of Flesh and Bone, He was not a Spirit but a living Soul and will return back as such. He will be able to drink and eat and enjoy life with us all. There exist no such thing as a Spirit (being) out side of God the Father alone, and he fills all thing with himself, in Joule God said (I) shall POUR forth of my spirit upon (ALL) Flesh and you son and daughter will prophesy, Your young men shall see visions and your old men will dream dreams……> , YHWH controls all spirits (intellects) and their powers too. When we recieve the fullness of God's Spirit we will continue to exist in what ever (BODY) he has resurected and prepared for us. IMO

peace and love…………………..gene

[karmarie]

Hi Gene, yeah I see what your saying. People say Jesus is now only a Spirit and I thought that also. But, His body could be touched, It bore the marks of the nails, and the pierced side, He could eat, walk through a closed door,  ascend up bodily into heaven?

[Ed J]

Quote (karmarie @ June 30 2010,20:00)

Ed, I still dont know what you mean. A false flesh return of Jesus, so are you saying a false Jesus will come from the sky and fool everyone? PLEASE Ed, dont answer with scripture quotes but just something I can understand?

Hi Karmarie and JustAskin,

I have explained it plainly many times, but I will explain it again
since you both insist you don't understand what is being said.

In the beginning God created man (Mankind) in God's image. (Gen. 1:26-27)
Since Adams fall, Adam procreated Seth in his fallen nature image. (Gen.3:5)

Jesus said: (in essence) That seeing him is seeing the father. (John 14:1-9)
Jesus said this because Jesus is the image of God the Father. (2.Cor.4:3-4)

Jesus also said: The words (of the Father) are Spirit and truth and they make alive. (John 6:63 / John 14:24)
The Place Jesus prepares for us: (Our Pentecost) is to dwell with him and the father . (John 14:23 / Heb.9:28)

Jesus said to the Pharisees: where I go you CANNOT come. (John 8:21-22)
Because the Pharisees do not welcome God's “HolySpirit” within themselves. (Luke 17:21)
God's Kingdom is “Spirit” rather than flesh! Jesus returned in “Spirit” on Pentecost with his Father. (John 14:23)

A flesh return (which is FALSE) of Jesus is what the false prophet promises. (Rev.13:15)
Rev.13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast
should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
So you say.
But Jesus will return to earth as he left[Acts1] to rule from the throne of David on earth for 1000 years.[Ps2]

[terraricca]

Quote (Ed J @ July 01 2010,21:22)

Quote (karmarie @ June 30 2010,20:00) Ed, I still dont know what you mean. A false flesh return of Jesus, so are you saying a false Jesus will come from the sky and fool everyone? PLEASE Ed, dont answer with scripture quotes but just something I can understand? Hi Karmarie and JustAskin, I have explained it plainly many times, but I will explain it again since you both insist you don't understand what is being said. In the beginning God created man (Mankind) in God's image. (Gen. 1:26-27) Since Adams fall, Adam procreated Seth in his fallen nature image. (Gen.3:5) Jesus said: (in essence) That seeing him is seeing the father. (John 14:1-9) Jesus said this because Jesus is the image of God the Father. (2.Cor.4:3-4) Jesus also said: The words (of the Father) are Spirit and truth and they make alive. (John 6:63 / John 14:24) The Place Jesus prepares for us: (Our Pentecost) is to dwell with him and the father . (John 14:23 / Heb.9:28) Jesus said to the Pharisees: where I go you CANNOT come. (John 8:21-22) Because the Pharisees do not welcome God's “HolySpirit” within themselves. (Luke 17:21) God's Kingdom is “Spirit” rather than flesh! Jesus returned in “Spirit” on Pentecost with his Father. (John 14:23) A flesh return (which is FALSE) of Jesus is what the false prophet promises. (Rev.13:15) Rev.13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. God bless Ed J http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

edj

what revelation also could mean is ;a kingdom that would image the truth of God s kingdom and deceit the people to support it and so receive the mark of that kingdom(beast).

Pierre

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
False worship is never condoned and those in Christ worship his God.
The sons of God await the head of the body.

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2010,08:08)

Hi ED, False worship is never condoned and those in Christ worship his God. The sons of God await the head of the body.

Hi Nick,

Are you still without the head? (John 14:17 / John 14:24 / Luke 17:21 / Heb.9:28)
1Cor.11:3: But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ;
and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
1Cor.2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the
spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God
knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God (in him).

                              “Holy City”=117

Rev.21:2-3 And I John saw the HOLY CITY=117, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold,
the tabernacle of God is with men (Is.60:14), and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
AND GOD HIMSELF=117 shall be with them, and be “their God”=86 (YHVH=63).
………………………………………………………………………(86=[אלהים] ĔL-ō-Hêêm=63)

                            “YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], and
the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!

Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā  hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
Yes Christ the head, at the right hand of the Almighty is joined with his body on earth by the Spirit.
And we too are with him with God in that Spirit.[Col2]

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2010,09:38)

Hi ED, Yes Christ the head, at the right hand of the Almighty is joined with his body on earth by the Spirit. And we too are with him with God in that Spirit.[Col2]

Hi Nick,

There is NO flesh return, that is a myth; a FALSE image of 'antichrist'! (Rev.13:15 / 1 John 4:3)
2Cor.5:16=17 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we
have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more.
Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things
are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
So you say.
But scripture does not support you in your teaching

[NickHassan]

Hi ED,
WE know Christ now according to the Spirit.
His flesh is gone and so will ours be covered when the imperishable is put on
We do not know exactly what we will be like but he has a new imperishable spiritual body and so will we when he returns.[1Cor15]

[Ed J]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ July 02 2010,10:48)

Hi ED, WE know Christ now according to the Spirit. His flesh is gone and so will ours be covered when the imperishable is put on We do not know exactly what we will be like but he has a new imperishable spiritual body and so will we when he returns.[1Cor15]

Hi Nick,

1 Cor.15 mentions no flesh return? Only the 'systems of religion' claim one?
1Cor.15:49-50 And as we have borne the image of the earthy (Gen.3:5),
we shall also bear the image of the heavenly (2Cor.4:4). Now this I say,
brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God;
neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. (Romans 8:9-11)

God bless
Ed J
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org

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