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Hi,
Hebrews 4:14
Seeing then that we have a great high priest, that is passed into the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our profession.Taken from among men to serve God.
Hebrews 5:1
For every high priest taken from among men is ordained for men in things pertaining to God, that he may offer both gifts and sacrifices for sins:Not self appointed
Hebrews 5:5
So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, to day have I begotten thee.A man like us
Hebrews 2:17
Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the peopleHebrews 4:15
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.Eternal appointment
Hebrews 6:20
Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.A man
Hebrews 7:24
But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.Jesus is ever such a priest unto God.
He is not also that God unto Whom he is priest tt.Nick said:
Quote Jesus is ever such a priest unto God.
He is not also that God unto Whom he is priest tt.Nick,
Earlier this month Gene said that God gets the full credit for being SAVIOR because God offered the sacrifice. But the Bible says that Jesus offered up Himself. So by Gene's own rule Jesus is God and Savior. I'll say it again. Gene said that God is the Savior because He offered up the sacrifice. If offering up the sacrifice makes a Savior then Jesus is the Savior because He alone offered up the sacrifice.thinker
Hi TT,
Since when did discovering truth relate to pathetic human battles?
Go to the Source.you will find no trinity written there.
Thinlker……WE don't play by my rules they mean nothing, its what is written , and Jesus never said He was GOD at any time. ONLY the false teachings of the Trinity says that, But not unaltered scriptures. IMO
peace and love………………….gene
Quote (thethinker @ June 01 2009,11:06) Nick said: Quote Jesus is ever such a priest unto God.
He is not also that God unto Whom he is priest tt.Nick,
Earlier this month Gene said that God gets the full credit for being SAVIOR because God offered the sacrifice. But the Bible says that Jesus offered up Himself. So by Gene's own rule Jesus is God and Savior. I'll say it again. Gene said that God is the Savior because He offered up the sacrifice. If offering up the sacrifice makes a Savior then Jesus is the Savior because He alone offered up the sacrifice.thinker
thinkerGod the Father planed the creation, He, in his foresight knew we humans would sin, and would need a savior.
The son, after the Father explained the plan to him, volunteered to become that sacrifice for our sins. So, yes, Jesus became the willing sacrifice, but it was the Father that offered him up for our sins.
Only if we except the sons sacrifice for our sins can he become our savior, and only then can the Father forgive us.
So it is the Father who saves us by forgiving us our sins for the sake of his son sacrifice.
You'll figure it out.Georg
Georg said:
Quote God the Father planed the creation, He, in his foresight knew we humans would sin, and would need a savior.
The son, after the Father explained the plan to him, volunteered to become that sacrifice for our sins. So, yes, Jesus became the willing sacrifice, but it was the Father that offered him up for our sins.Georg,
There is not one scintilla of evidence in the Bible that says that the God the Father offered up the sacrifice. The Mosaic law commanded the high priest to offer up the sacrifice. God would either except or reject the sacrifice. If what you are saying is true then God rejected His own sacrifices in Malachi.The book of Malachi is about God's rejection of the sacrifices which the priests offered to Him. If God offered the sacrifices then He rejected His own sacrifices. Christ our high priest OFFERED UP HIMSELF as a sacrifice acceptable to God. Again, God did NOT offer the sacrifices. He either accepted or rejected them.
thinker
Quote (thethinker @ June 02 2009,03:05) Georg said: Quote God the Father planed the creation, He, in his foresight knew we humans would sin, and would need a savior.
The son, after the Father explained the plan to him, volunteered to become that sacrifice for our sins. So, yes, Jesus became the willing sacrifice, but it was the Father that offered him up for our sins.Georg,
There is not one scintilla of evidence in the Bible that says that the God the Father offered up the sacrifice. The Mosaic law commanded the high priest to offer up the sacrifice. God would either except or reject the sacrifice. If what you are saying is true then God rejected His own sacrifices in Malachi.The book of Malachi is about God's rejection of the sacrifices which the priests offered to Him. If God offered the sacrifices then He rejected His own sacrifices. Christ our high priest OFFERED UP HIMSELF as a sacrifice acceptable to God. Again, God did NOT offer the sacrifices. He either accepted or rejected them.
thinker
Hi thethinker:What about:
Quote Jhn 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world. or,
Quote Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Love in Christ,
MartyMarty,
Hebrews clearly teaches that Christ offered up Himself. John 3:16 means that God provided the sacrifice. There is a difference. If God Himself offered up sacrifices then He rejected them in Malachi. This doesn't make sense.thinker
Quote (Nick Hassan @ May 30 2010,13:43) Hi,
Jesus is the high priest for his God.
nickGod does not need a high priest we doe ,he is our high priest so we can come close to his God and our God and father,
but he is the only high priest approved by God to be in that function.
pierre
Is this the same priest that your talking about Melchisdek, who has no Father or mother? nor geneology, The King of Salem?
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 02 2009,02:05) Georg said: Quote God the Father planed the creation, He, in his foresight knew we humans would sin, and would need a savior.
The son, after the Father explained the plan to him, volunteered to become that sacrifice for our sins. So, yes, Jesus became the willing sacrifice, but it was the Father that offered him up for our sins.Georg,
There is not one scintilla of evidence in the Bible that says that the God the Father offered up the sacrifice. The Mosaic law commanded the high priest to offer up the sacrifice. God would either except or reject the sacrifice. If what you are saying is true then God rejected His own sacrifices in Malachi.The book of Malachi is about God's rejection of the sacrifices which the priests offered to Him. If God offered the sacrifices then He rejected His own sacrifices. Christ our high priest OFFERED UP HIMSELF as a sacrifice acceptable to God. Again, God did NOT offer the sacrifices. He either accepted or rejected them.
thinker
Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.Why do you think God “gave” us his son?
Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
For what purpose did God send his son if not to die in our stead?
Georg
Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 02 2009,19:32) Marty,
Hebrews clearly teaches that Christ offered up Himself. John 3:16 means that God provided the sacrifice. There is a difference. If God Himself offered up sacrifices then He rejected them in Malachi. This doesn't make sense.thinker
Yes he did, because even God can't “force” some one to die in our stead, Jesus had to volunteer for that. But it was the father that chose his son to be that sacrifice.Georg
Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 31 2010,19:59) Is this the same priest that your talking about Melchisdek, who has no Father or mother? nor geneology, The King of Salem?
Melchizedek was mentioned by Paul to the Jewish converts because, they had problems excepting the fact that Jesus was king and high priest, it was against their old law.
Apparently there were no records available to Paul showing who his parents were, when or where he was born, or when he died.Georg
Quote (Arnold @ May 31 2010,22:09) Quote (SimplyForgiven @ May 31 2010,19:59) Is this the same priest that your talking about Melchisdek, who has no Father or mother? nor geneology, The King of Salem?
Melchizedek was mentioned by Paul to the Jewish converts because, they had problems excepting the fact that Jesus was king and high priest, it was against their old law.
Apparently there were no records available to Paul showing who his parents were, when or where he was born, or when he died.Georg
First of all,
Know one knows who wrote Hebrews.
He was the first king of salem, Salem does not exist, it means peace.in other words the king of peace.
Genesis states itself that18And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
bread… and wine.. intresting…
who else used bread and wine?
?Quote (Kangaroo Jack @ June 01 2009,10:06) Nick said: Quote Jesus is ever such a priest unto God.
He is not also that God unto Whom he is priest tt.Nick,
Earlier this month Gene said that God gets the full credit for being SAVIOR because God offered the sacrifice. But the Bible says that Jesus offered up Himself. So by Gene's own rule Jesus is God and Savior. I'll say it again. Gene said that God is the Savior because He offered up the sacrifice. If offering up the sacrifice makes a Savior then Jesus is the Savior because He alone offered up the sacrifice.thinker
Hi Thinker,Your logic ('spin, spin, spin') simply doesn't add up!
“The Savior”=117 is (יהוה האלהים=117) “God The Father”=117! (Isaiah 43:11)
Isaiah 43:11 I(YHVH), even ; and beside me there is no savior.“YHVH is GOD”=117
PSALM 117 is [The Bible's Center Chapter], the [smallest chapter] of the [LARGEST BOOK]!Witnessing to the world in behalf of YHVH (Psalm 45:17)
117=יהוה האלהים(JEHOVAH GOD) YÄ-hä-vā hä ĔL-ō-Hêêm!
Ed J (AKJV Joshua 22:34 / Isaiah 60:13-15)
http://www.holycitybiblecode.org
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