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I really just wanted to read and get other peoples perspectives, but I cannot hold it in any longer. Let me start by saying I love all of you, no matter how mean spirited you are. Thats what it's all about. We can all have differant opinions and views, but the ones who are closer to God will be the kindest and most humble. Satan has really wreaked havoc in the world starting with the jews and culminating in what is exibited here. While you are argueing the antichrist is slaying souls without a fight. I'm no prophet, but it's very clear to me. Did you know that there is a shrine to Elvis in a Jerusalem suburb? Also, believe it or not a very large gold statue in front of it? (Remember the golden calf?) Do you know almost the entire world refers to him as “The King”? Worse than that a newspaper in Memphis ran a story, and on the front page, in bold letters, the title read” ISREAL HONORS 'THE KING' ” with a picture of that statue beside it, and,even though this is the heart of the bible belt with a chruch on almost every corner, and in that article the owner attributed miracles to the statue and the shrine, which is the very definition of idolatry, NOT ONE WORD OF COMPLAINT CAME FROM ANYONE! In Memphis, there is a huge pyrimid (symbol of enslavement of God's people) and in front of it is a huge statue of Ramsess 2 , who in life considered himself a God. Elvis is the most impersonated being on the planet. He was 42 when he died.(Rev-13v5) His 'princes' spew blasphemys that make my skin crawl-(Rev-13v6)-Heres one from one of his worst-Ozzy Osborne”leave me alone don't want your promises no more, cause rock and roll is my religion and my god” Kid Rock- “sex and drugs and rock and roll…… I'm your rock and roll Jesus”.. At football games they sometimes play “hells bells” Its the one that starts out with a tolling of a large bell by ac/dc. “won't take no prisoners,won't spare no lives, nobodys puttin up a fight, we got the power gonna take you to hell, were gonna get you,satan get you, hells bells” and later in the song “if your into evil your a friend of mine” No one complains. QUIT ARGUEING AND WAKE UP!!!!!! JESUS IS THE KING!! Elvis himself told people not to call him that, but the world did with him what it wanted to. He unknowingly let satan out of the bottle and souls are so besmirched its sickening, all the while churches are building bigger buildings and throwing God a bone or two at the same time people are being slaughtered.Isaiah 56, v10 “My watchmen are blind, all of them unaware; They are all dumb dogs, they cannot bark” The jews complained to Pilate about the inscription above God “This is Jesus, King of the Jews” but have no problem with this, and told him that they would take responsibility for his death, believe that God is one and all powerful, but do not comprehend or discern why 7 million of them perished in ww2. Maranna tha (Come lord Jesus!!)Hello mike
What the music industry has done to the image of Elvis, is no different then what other sports have done to their champions. Elvis was given the title king because he was on the top of their chart in his time. In order to boost souvenir's sales they have to keep his memory alive. Yes, I agree, it is idolatry in a sense, but is it the businessmen that commits idolatry, or is it the people that buy the items? well, I guess you could say, both. To a businessman, business is business, why do you think there are so many gossip magazines? people like gossip, it makes them feel better when they can read some one is worse then they are. God will not judge us for what other people do.
Georg
Georg,
I've read alot of your other post in other topics. I know you are very well read in scripture, and are very convinced you have a grip on the truth. You have accused others of being blind or wrong in their views, so out of curiousity I ask you, Do other “champions” as you stated have a GOLD statue of themselves in a Jerusalem suburb? A shrine in said place to themselves? What do you mean “in a sense” idolatry? Does a GOLD statue ring a bell with you? Let me quote you a part of the article in the Memphis newspaper.
“As outlandish as Leverons beliefs are (he believes he is the second coming of Elvis), they fit with those of other Prestly fans in ISREAL, where fandom blends with religion. Even Yoeli (the owner), a straight laced buisnessman, sees MIRACLES in the NAME OF ELVIS PRESLEY. When he erected the prestly statue out front, he and others noticed a hawk hover 4 feet above it. After a while, the bird flew off and now returns twice a year.” He flies over the statue and then he dissappears,”I don't know how to explain it”. In the late 80's a wildfire rushed outside Jerusalem, near the Elvis Inn,”All the hills around us were on fire” The fire leaped over the Elvis Inn to the next mountain. “We were like an island of green,” Maybe its because we have so many pictures of Elvis—“, “THE HOLY MAN.” Yoeli's daughter, Yaffit. interjects half-jokingly. “IT'S A MIRACLE” Yoeli continues. “Its strange to talk about it , but it happened”.
Tell me, do these other “champions” have miracles attributed to them? Are they honored as “The King” in jerusalem? You who are so versed on scripture, do you realize how horrible this is against the real King?Also to answer your question, and I do not have to guess, it is definately both the buisnessman who promotes it and the people who follow it. Godbless
Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 16 2010,00:15) Georg,
I've read alot of your other post in other topics. I know you are very well read in scripture, and are very convinced you have a grip on the truth. You have accused others of being blind or wrong in their views, so out of curiousity I ask you, Do other “champions” as you stated have a GOLD statue of themselves in a Jerusalem suburb? A shrine in said place to themselves? What do you mean “in a sense” idolatry? Does a GOLD statue ring a bell with you? Let me quote you a part of the article in the Memphis newspaper.
“As outlandish as Leverons beliefs are (he believes he is the second coming of Elvis), they fit with those of other Prestly fans in ISREAL, where fandom blends with religion. Even Yoeli (the owner), a straight laced buisnessman, sees MIRACLES in the NAME OF ELVIS PRESLEY. When he erected the prestly statue out front, he and others noticed a hawk hover 4 feet above it. After a while, the bird flew off and now returns twice a year.” He flies over the statue and then he dissappears,”I don't know how to explain it”. In the late 80's a wildfire rushed outside Jerusalem, near the Elvis Inn,”All the hills around us were on fire” The fire leaped over the Elvis Inn to the next mountain. “We were like an island of green,” Maybe its because we have so many pictures of Elvis—“, “THE HOLY MAN.” Yoeli's daughter, Yaffit. interjects half-jokingly. “IT'S A MIRACLE” Yoeli continues. “Its strange to talk about it , but it happened”.
Tell me, do these other “champions” have miracles attributed to them? Are they honored as “The King” in jerusalem? You who are so versed on scripture, do you realize how horrible this is against the real King?
mikeDid Elvis have the statue erected? you know it's all done for money.
Actually this is the first that I heard about that statue; also, I am not a fan, I don't have a single item of Elvis, not even a record.
Why does it bother you who the Israelites worship, I mean, some of them? look at India, how many idols do they have?
You say, all the hills around you were on fire, so you are an Israelite, or you live in Israel?
Yes, I know it is an abomination to worship an idol.
Do you think it was a miracle? I know I would not.
There are plenty of statues of sports champions in their “Hall of Fame”, and they have plenty of worshipers.Georg
Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 16 2010,00:19) Also to answer your question, and I do not have to guess, it is definately both the buisnessman who promotes it and the people who follow it. Godbless
You know to judge my Husband like that makes you just is uncalled for. You don't even know Him. How can you judge someone on the way He responds to other posts. My Husband is about the kindest person on earth and He does everything for me since I am disabled and I am on Oxygen 24 hrs. a day. All I am saying to you, sham on you,
And Peace and Christian Love to you, IreneGeorg
That paragraph was a direct quote from the article in the newspaper. I am not an Israelite, I live close to Memphis. That was what the owner stated. I am well aware of the idolatry of other celebritys and 'stars'. I am also well of all the other idol worshiping religions. Some budda idols actually have a swastica on them. If you read your bible, you will notice that in biblical days there were many, many idols in diferant nations. This is in his land. In his city. Other nations had idols but he didn't chastise Isreal for what other nations did. Like you said, look at India, What kind of shape are they in? Mostly third world poverty. But I am referring to Gods people in Israel, and to that effect Gods people at large now. What happens in Israel should concern you. When Jerusalem is taken or blasted is the real sign that God is on his way. God in the old testament warns Israel that idols will bring his wrath.. Besides the Elvis shrine with the horrible abomination (did I forget to mention it is next door to the King David complex?) Israel is asking for it, and I think is going to get it, and maybe the rest of the world(I can't say only God the Father knows).
In 2 Kings ch21, we hear of grave sin and God pronouncing a judgement on Jerusalem and Juda. There were many sinful kings through the ages for them, but look what happened form what king Mannaseh did. It is written that he did evil in the sight of the Lord”following the abominable practices of the nations the Lord had cleared out of the way” (notice God doesn't say” The Amorites have idols so your good”) He set up a sacred pole.He worshoped the host of heavan(astrology), reintroduced the consulting of ghost and sprits. If you read on, you learn one thing that really provoked god was the setting up of the aserah idol in Jerusalem in the temple, of which God said” In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel. I shall place my name forever” therefore God said “I will bring such evil on Jerusalem and Juda that, whenever anyone hears of it, his ears shall ring” Let's look at the big picture fellow bible scholar; Isreal has a population where the majority doesn't even practice any form of religion. Out of those alot are into astrology and the 'new age'(don't even get me started on that) movement has caught on. There is a large homosexual poulation and drug use. Abortions are legal in Isreal for the most weak excuses, like the mother is mentally stressed, nothing is more precious to God than innocent human blood, thousands are performed. The Orthodox Jews are throwing fits over petty bs like pushing a button on the sabbath but don't discern how horrificly horrible a gold statue of 'The King' is. The entire region around them is dying for a chance to wipe them out. Tell me, WHY SHOULD GOD PROTECT THEM? In the same chapter, God says “I will cast off the survivors of my inheritance and deliver them into enemy hands,………….,because they have done evil in my sight and provoked my from the day thier fathers came forth from Egypt to this day” This day means also 2-15-10. Our namesake, Memphis, Where Elvis hails from(his spirit and presence now created by men)(the beast wounded by the sword mortally and yet lived), Was a cult center and capitol of lower Egypt. This is worse than a golden calf. Time will prove where wisdom lies. I wish it was tonight. Godbless.Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 16 2010,10:31) You know to judge my Husband like that makes you just is uncalled for. You don't even know Him. How can you judge someone on the way He responds to other posts. My Husband is about the kindest person on earth and He does everything for me since I am disabled and I am on Oxygen 24 hrs. a day. All I am saying to you, sham on you,
And Peace and Christian Love to you, Irene
Elizebeth, or georg, I was referring to the buisnessmen who make money promoting idols, and the people who buy into it. If that is not what you do than I would never judge you. Even if you did it is not me who judges its God. You misunderstood. But , am I mistaken or did i read somewhere where you explained how the pope was the anti-christ and Catholics are all bad? Was That you?? Peace be with you. GodblessHey mike,
Wow, it definitely sounds like you couldn't hold it in anymore. All the vile things you're describing in Jerusalem was foretold by Jesus. I think it will get much worse before Jesus returns.
IMO, Jerusalem isn't “the Holy City of God”, anymore. I think all that stopped when Jesus said to the Pharisees, “How I've longed to take you under my wing…but look your house is left to you desolate”
Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 16 2010,11:20) Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 16 2010,10:31) You know to judge my Husband like that makes you just is uncalled for. You don't even know Him. How can you judge someone on the way He responds to other posts. My Husband is about the kindest person on earth and He does everything for me since I am disabled and I am on Oxygen 24 hrs. a day. All I am saying to you, sham on you,
And Peace and Christian Love to you, Irene
Elizebeth, or georg, I was referring to the buisnessmen who make money promoting idols, and the people who buy into it. If that is not what you do than I would never judge you. Even if you did it is not me who judges its God. You misunderstood. But , am I mistaken or did i read somewhere where you explained how the pope was the anti-christ and Catholics are all bad? Was That you?? Peace be with you. Godbless
mikeI'm sorry, my wife misunderstood.
Georg
Georg
No need to apologise. I hope she gets better. My mom has terminal cancer. My dad died two years ago. I'll pray for ya'll. Ya'll Please pray for me. Godbless.
mike
For some reason, the Israelites have always been an adulterous nation, but it is for the covenant God made with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that he keeps his promise.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Rom 11:29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.And yes, there is one more tribulation awaiting them.
Zec 14:1 ¶ Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.But this will also be the wrath of God on the whole world.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.And I'm sure you can tell from the way things are going over there, this want be much longer.
That then, will be the beginning of Christs kingdom reign.Mat 24:29 ¶ Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Mat 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.Georg
Ps, we will keep you in our prayer.
I wrote the article about the Antichrist, and yes it is the pope, but I did not say they are all bad, they are misinformed as are all the other churches.Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2010,11:29) Hey mike, Wow, it definitely sounds like you couldn't hold it in anymore. All the vile things you're describing in Jerusalem was foretold by Jesus. I think it will get much worse before Jesus returns.
IMO, Jerusalem isn't “the Holy City of God”, anymore. I think all that stopped when Jesus said to the Pharisees, “How I've longed to take you under my wing…but look your house is left to you desolate”
mike64By, behold, “your house”, Jesus meant the nation of Judah. As you know, Jerusalem and the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, and the nation Judah ceased to exist; but at the same time, it was not to be destroyed for ever.
Jer 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
Jer 33:7 And I will cause the captivity of Judah and the captivity of Israel to return, and will build them, as at the first.
Jer 33:14 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.God fulfilled that promise in 1948.
Georg
Georg,
No need to apologise. I commend her for wanting to stand up for you. I Pray she gets better. My mom has terminal cancer.Lets swap prayers tonight. Godbless.Quote (Elizabeth @ Feb. 16 2010,14:01) Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 16 2010,11:29) Hey mike, Wow, it definitely sounds like you couldn't hold it in anymore. All the vile things you're describing in Jerusalem was foretold by Jesus. I think it will get much worse before Jesus returns.
IMO, Jerusalem isn't “the Holy City of God”, anymore. I think all that stopped when Jesus said to the Pharisees, “How I've longed to take you under my wing…but look your house is left to you desolate”
mike64By, behold, “your house”, Jesus meant the nation of Judah. As you know, Jerusalem and the temple was destroyed in 70 AD, and the nation Judah ceased to exist; but at the same time, it was not to be destroyed for ever.
Jer 30:3 For, lo, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will bring again the captivity of my people Israel and Judah, saith the LORD: and I will cause them to return to the land that I gave to their fathers, and they shall possess it.
Jer 33:7 And I will cause the captivity of Judah and the captivity of Israel to return, and will build them, as at the first.
Jer 33:14 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.God fulfilled that promise in 1948.
Georg
Hey georg,
Thanks for the comment! I learn a lot on this website. But I was talking about Matthew 23:37-39. It starts with Jesus saying, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets…” and ends with, “…you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'”
That's why I think from that point forward, Jerusalem was on her own. New Jerusalem, on the other hand, will be God's dwelling place on earth.
And georg,
Imo, “your house” is the temple where God's glory was said to reside. Jesus was saying , “this temple is empty of God now, and I will be the new temple for the nations”
mike64
Jesus “is” building a new temple, a spiritual temple, and He is the corner stone of the temple, but that has nothing to do with the temple “in” Jerusalem. The destruction of the nation was prophesied in Ezekiel.
Eze 21:21 For the king of Babylon stood at the parting of the way, at the head of the two ways, to use divination: he made his arrows bright, he consulted with images, he looked in the liver.
Eze 21:22 At his right hand was the divination for Jerusalem, to appoint captains, to open the mouth in the slaughter, to lift up the voice with shouting, to appoint battering rams against the gates, to cast a mount, and to build a fort.
Eze 21:26 Thus saith the Lord GOD; Remove the diadem, and take off the crown: this shall not be the same: exalt him that is low, and abase him that is high.This invasion took place in 606 BC; take off the crown means, loosing their independence; they were ruled over by other nations from then on.
Eze 21:27 I will overturn, overturn, overturn, it: and it shall be no more, until he come whose right it is; and I will give it him.
After the Babylonians they were ruled over by three other kingdoms; the Medo-Persians; the Greeks; and the Romans.
The “IT” in v. 27, is a reference to the nation/kingdom/house of Judah. “AND “IT” SHALL BE NO MORE”; in 70 AD, “IT”, the house/nation, was no more.Georg
Quote (mikeangel @ Feb. 16 2010,10:12) Georg That paragraph was a direct quote from the article in the newspaper. I am not an Israelite, I live close to Memphis. That was what the owner stated. I am well aware of the idolatry of other celebritys and 'stars'. I am also well of all the other idol worshiping religions. Some budda idols actually have a swastica on them. If you read your bible, you will notice that in biblical days there were many, many idols in diferant nations. This is in his land. In his city. Other nations had idols but he didn't chastise Isreal for what other nations did. Like you said, look at India, What kind of shape are they in? Mostly third world poverty. But I am referring to Gods people in Israel, and to that effect Gods people at large now. What happens in Israel should concern you. When Jerusalem is taken or blasted is the real sign that God is on his way. God in the old testament warns Israel that idols will bring his wrath.. Besides the Elvis shrine with the horrible abomination (did I forget to mention it is next door to the King David complex?) Israel is asking for it, and I think is going to get it, and maybe the rest of the world(I can't say only God the Father knows).
In 2 Kings ch21, we hear of grave sin and God pronouncing a judgement on Jerusalem and Juda. There were many sinful kings through the ages for them, but look what happened form what king Mannaseh did. It is written that he did evil in the sight of the Lord”following the abominable practices of the nations the Lord had cleared out of the way” (notice God doesn't say” The Amorites have idols so your good”) He set up a sacred pole.He worshoped the host of heavan(astrology), reintroduced the consulting of ghost and sprits. If you read on, you learn one thing that really provoked god was the setting up of the aserah idol in Jerusalem in the temple, of which God said” In this temple and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel. I shall place my name forever” therefore God said “I will bring such evil on Jerusalem and Juda that, whenever anyone hears of it, his ears shall ring” Let's look at the big picture fellow bible scholar; Isreal has a population where the majority doesn't even practice any form of religion. Out of those alot are into astrology and the 'new age'(don't even get me started on that) movement has caught on. There is a large homosexual poulation and drug use. Abortions are legal in Isreal for the most weak excuses, like the mother is mentally stressed, nothing is more precious to God than innocent human blood, thousands are performed. The Orthodox Jews are throwing fits over petty bs like pushing a button on the sabbath but don't discern how horrificly horrible a gold statue of 'The King' is. The entire region around them is dying for a chance to wipe them out. Tell me, WHY SHOULD GOD PROTECT THEM? In the same chapter, God says “I will cast off the survivors of my inheritance and deliver them into enemy hands,………….,because they have done evil in my sight and provoked my from the day thier fathers came forth from Egypt to this day” This day means also 2-15-10. Our namesake, Memphis, Where Elvis hails from(his spirit and presence now created by men)(the beast wounded by the sword mortally and yet lived), Was a cult center and capitol of lower Egypt. This is worse than a golden calf. Time will prove where wisdom lies. I wish it was tonight. Godbless.
I wanted to add something for anyone who might read this thread. One more thing I recently discovered was that as I stated before, Memphis Egypt was the capitol of lower Egypt and cult center for the “apis bulls”. I was sick one day and researched what that was about and got a couple of surprises. One was that I found that an apis bull was what the egyptians thought was the manifestation of “patah” who the egyptians thought was the creator. They would look for a bull to be born with special markings on it and believe it to be the manifestation of the god. They believed it was born by being concieved by a lightning bolt. It would then be worshiped in Memphis Egypt,close to the pyramids. Strangely enough, I always wondered why the hebrews made a calf to worship in the desert when Moses was getting the ten commandments. It is because that is what they knew from egypt, and did it again. No wonder God got so mad and wanted to wipe them out. Now consider this- Jesus said thad he saw Satan fall from the sky like lightning. Now, in this century, look at what is being adored in Memphis Tenn. A “Taking care of buisness” symbol has a lightning bolt on it, and people from around the world refer to him as “The King”. Hmmmmm. This is also as they call it around here “Elvis Death week” Like the shrine by Jerusalem, people from all over are coming to pay hommage to “The King” The paper calls them “the faithful” and “pilgrims”. They walk in front of his grave at “Graceland” by the thousands in a candlelight vigil on his death night. Also, it is strange to me that only two people I know of have both thier death and birth remembered- Elvis and Jesus. Peace and love- MeI think sometimes “maybe you are being sensitive and it's not that bad” I watched a program on Ozzy Osborn on the biography channel last night and then right after that was another on guns and roses. I am more convinced than ever this is what's happening. When all the older people are gone and all is left is people that pay more attention to this crap than God I can't imagine what this world will be like. I really pray God won't let it come to that . Marrana Tha (please)
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